Peace Expert George W Bush Says ‘Isolationism’ Is Dangerous To Peace

AssHatZombie said:
It's a great analogy. most wars are stupid and unnecesssary and are profit centers and genocide techniques for bad people.
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Yes, wars are stupid and unnecessary; but until you convince the tyrants, dictators and terrorists who start them, they will continue to do it. :rolleyes:

So I will ask you the same questions: Is it YOUR position that after 9-11 we do nothing? Is it your contention that when Saddam invaded Kuwait, we do nothing?
 
Truth Detector said:
Iraq has NOTHING to do with 9-11. It had everything to do with his defiance after he had been kicked out of Kuwait and signed an agreement. It doesn't matter what YOU think. It doesn't matter what leftist THINK now.
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bogus. We never invaded Iraq because of Kuwait .
we went in because of 9-11 / "WMD" /and AQ - both were cooked up lies by Rumsfeld/Cheney et all

So you are an expert on counter terrorism? It doesn't look like you are. You cannot go in and kill people in other people's nation. They are not going to invite you in. They don't want you in.
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I've done extensive studies unlike yourself and most Americans (Army War College to start)

we bomb and kill terrorist all the time without permission - did the Taliban give us permission?

Again, is it YOUR position that after 9-11 we do nothing? Is it your contention that when Saddam invaded Kuwait, we do nothing?
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Kuwait was done by a grand coalition because Saddam sent tanks into Kuwait.
an actual invasion.

I've already explained what we should have done in Iraq and Afghan.
hit them hard and leave. Rinse and repeat as needed. same with Syria
 
Truth Detector said:
Yes, wars are stupid and unnecessary; but until you convince the tyrants, dictators and terrorists who start them, they will continue to do it. :rolleyes:

So I will ask you the same questions: Is it YOUR position that after 9-11 we do nothing? Is it your contention that when Saddam invaded Kuwait, we do nothing?
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that's bullshit. cia puts those people in power to sell war at home.
 
Darth Omar said:
Yes, and he truly is lol.

And the lefties don’t quite know what to do with it.
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Yes they do. It usually involves all things un-peaceful. Violence, lies,
black-hooded/masked marauders destroying property, spitting, throwing eggs,
shutting down free speech at schools, displaying fake bloody heads, burning
hats and flags, banning people from public businesses/restaurants and basically
screaming obscenities and insults to those with opposing political views.
 
dukkha said:
ROFL. Neocons are in both partys. I noticed you completely skipped over Libya.
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as for what Trump said -he was a civilian. way too many people supported Iraq and Libya
Just like they do with a perpetual presence in Syria. Blame it on the media or mindless
'America the world's police' mentality

*The difference is that Trump hasn't done the interventionism 2 step -getting in and never getting out
when he actually has that decision making ability. i.e. America First
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Trump prefers to engage "enemies" economically rather than physically. He has
an established pattern of that by now for all the world to see. Military violence
is a last resort to him. Dear God I love this guy! :good4u:
 
I can see the agruyment can be made. Not that I need W to teach me a damn thing.
Certainly the Trump genocide of the Kurds is proof
 
Stretch said:
Trump prefers to engage "enemies" economically rather than physically. He has
an established pattern of that by now for all the world to see. Military violence
is a last resort to him. Dear God I love this guy! :good4u:
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but he'll kill terrorists -he wrapped up ISIS quickly
 
dukkha said:
bogus. We never invaded Iraq because of Kuwait .
we went in because of 9-11 / "WMD" /and AQ - both were cooked up lies by Rumsfeld/Cheney et all
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Wrong. You need to get some facts and get back to me when you are better informed. ;)

dukkha said:
I've done extensive studies unlike yourself and most Americans (Army War College to start)
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You went to Army War college? ;) You were an officer? ;)

dukkha said:
we bomb and kill terrorist all the time without permission - did the Taliban give us permission?
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Only if we have bases close enough to target them. But alas, fake expert, you cannot bomb an enemy into submission. That takes boots on the ground.

I would think you had learned that at FAKE Army war college. :laugh:

dukkha said:
Kuwait was done by a grand coalition because Saddam sent tanks into Kuwait. an actual invasion.
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That wasn't my question; Is it your contention that when Saddam invaded Kuwait, WE, the USA, do nothing?

dukkha said:
I've already explained what we should have done in Iraq and Afghan.
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Again, answer the question without flailing and deflecting; is it YOUR position that after 9-11 we do nothing?

dukkha said:
hit them hard and leave. Rinse and repeat as needed. same with Syria
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That would do nothing to prevent tyranny. We hit them hard and left in Vietnam. How did that work out?
 
Truth Detector said:
You went to Army War college? You were an officer?
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online studies Strategic Studies Institute, US Army War College
https://www.jstor.org/publisher/ssiusarmywarc
The Strategic Studies Institute is the U.S. Army's institute for geostrategic and national security research and analysis. The Strategic Studies Institute conducts strategic research and analysis to support the U.S. Army War College curricula, provides direct analysis for Army and Department of Defense leadership, and serves as a bridge to the wider strategic community.

Only if we have bases close enough to target them. But alas, fake expert, you cannot bomb an enemy into submission. That takes boots on the ground.
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we don't need bases we have worldwide air reach with both drones and bombers

I would think you had learned that at FAKE Army war college. :laugh:
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you should study up. Counter-terrorism vs. Counterinsurgency are the two strategies

That wasn't my question; Is it your contention that when Saddam invaded Kuwait, WE, the USA, do nothing?
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Kuwait was an invasion by one state on another. we went in rightly with a 'grand' coalition.
It was a good move

Again, answer the question without flailing and deflecting; is it YOUR position that after 9-11 we do nothing?
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once again. we could have done all the anti-terrorism we needed to do by air.
Going in on the ground was because we decided to rebuild Afghanistan

That would do nothing to prevent tyranny. We hit them hard and left in Vietnam. How did that work out?
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another reason not to go into foreign civil wars. Vietnam was the classic example of "quagmire".
you can get in,but you can't get out
 
archives said:
What's funny is that after years, probably a decade or more, the same people who endlessly defended the Iraq War and wouldn't accept its' disasterous consequences in the Middle East are now critizing President Bush for the Iraq War

Everyday it seems their selective memory keeps invalidating that which they once told us were their principles
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It's called learning from mistakes made.
I tell my employees that a mistake isn't a mistake if it's a learning experience. It becomes a mistake when nothing is learned from it.
Neocons, (bush, Lindsey, HRC, progs infected with TDS, etc.) are seemingly incapable of learning from past mistakes.
 
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