Paul Pelosi Attack

It doesn't sound like a very well planned attack. One person with a hammer? That doesn't sound like a well conceived politically motivated attack plan.

There's something else going on here that we don't know yet.
 
PoliTalker said:
It doesn't sound like a very well planned attack. One person with a hammer? That doesn't sound like a well conceived politically motivated attack plan.

There's something else going on here that we don't know yet.
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What do you suspect? Just a disgruntled San Fransicko tired of living in a toilet?
 
archives said:
From the few times I have been to San Francisco I noticed right away there were easily accessible areas that were best to avoid, and as I said before, the city is schizophrenic, it prides itself on supposedly being free, but doesn’t fully recognize the consequences.

And crime is up everywhere, not germane to urban areas, social norms and understandings have been eroded since rude and insulting rhetoric was legitimatized
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Murder per capita is higher in Mississippi
 
cawacko said:
Sorry for starting another thread but can offer local's insight.

Everything on Twitter should be taken with large grains of salt but I saw people questioning how an intruder could get past the walls of the Pelosi home. The Pelosi's home isn't gated or walled off. It's worth $20m+ but any of us can walk up to it off the street. (When Pelosi is in town you will see two big black SUV's always parked in front with like six security guards who are all Italian guys in dark suits with slick backed hair as if straight out of central casting. You don't see them when she's not there.)

Considering who is wife is it's hard not to think of this as anything but a political attack, and we'll find out soon. At the same time crime is high in San Francisco and it's not exclusive to poor areas. Rich areas and rich people get robbed here so it's not out of the question that he was an unfortunate victim. We'll see.
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Per CNN it was reported that since she was in DC there were no security personnel there, but the house has a lot of security cameras. The guy broke in through the back of the house.
 
PoliTalker said:
It doesn't sound like a very well planned attack. One person with a hammer? That doesn't sound like a well conceived politically motivated attack plan.

There's something else going on here that we don't know yet.
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It’s San Francisco where random attacks, with weapons, do occur (however those tend to be on the street, not in someone’s home). But if this was a planned political attack one person with a hammer just seems a weird way to go about doing it. Was the plan to kill him with a hammer? Or just do some physical damage but let him live? I’m sure we’ll find out here shortly. Seeing an old man attacked with a hammer is frightening in any form.
 
Jarod said:
Murder per capita is higher in Mississippi
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Crime is about more than murder. Rich people aren’t getting killed in SF but they are getting robbed, their homes broken into, car windows smashed and stolen from etc. It has a huge effect on the quality of life and how people feel who live here. People regularly talk about being afraid to take their kids certain places and women fear going on walks alone etc. Again, it’s a big reason the DA was recalled. So murders in Mississippi are irrelevant
 
Hello cawacko,

cawacko said:
It’s San Francisco where random attacks, with weapons, do occur (however those tend to be on the street, not in someone’s home). But if this was a planned political attack one person with a hammer just seems a weird way to go about doing it. Was the plan to kill him with a hammer? Or just do some physical damage but let him live? I’m sure we’ll find out here shortly. Seeing an old man attacked with a hammer is frightening in any form.
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It's not a good plan. That suggests it was not premeditated. Perhaps a burglar who had hoped the house was unoccupied, possibly didn't even know the names of the home owners. Maybe the hammer was used to break in, not intended to be a weapon in the hopes no weapon would be needed.

It was in a really rich neighborhood. An inviting target.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello cawacko,



It's not a good plan. That suggests it was not premeditated. Perhaps a burglar who had hoped the house was unoccupied, possibly didn't even know the names of the home owners. Maybe the hammer was used to break in, not intended to be a weapon in the hopes no weapon would be needed.

It was in a really rich neighborhood. An inviting target.
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All based on a "perhaps"
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Per CNN it was reported that since she was in DC there were no security personnel there, but the house has a lot of security cameras. The guy broke in through the back of the house.
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Security cameras help after the fact I guess but not so much from keeping people out. Between their time in D.C. and in Napa I don’t know how much time they actually spend at this house. Frightening to have someone break in though (on top of being attacked of course)
 
PoliTalker said:
It doesn't sound like a very well planned attack. One person with a hammer? That doesn't sound like a well conceived politically motivated attack plan.

There's something else going on here that we don't know yet.
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Neither was the Florida bomber

What we do know is that the guy is a dimwit either influenced by drugs, mental instability, greed, or inspired by hate speech, could even be the combination of any two or three
 
cawacko said:
Security cameras help after the fact I guess but not so much from keeping people out. Between their time in D.C. and in Napa I don’t know how much time they actually spend at this house. Frightening to have someone break in though (on top of being attacked of course)
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I hope he's okay. 82 yo ppl don't recover as quickly as younger ones.
 
cawacko said:
It’s San Francisco where random attacks, with weapons, do occur (however those tend to be on the street, not in someone’s home). But if this was a planned political attack one person with a hammer just seems a weird way to go about doing it. Was the plan to kill him with a hammer? Or just do some physical damage but let him live? I’m sure we’ll find out here shortly. Seeing an old man attacked with a hammer is frightening in any form.
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Per CNN he was looking for Mrs. Pelosi.
 
cawacko said:
When she’s home there is security there at all times. This person would have almost no chance at getting in. This person clearly didn’t do his due diligence.
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Anyone who would strike an elderly man with a hammer has more problems than doing his homework.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Anyone who would strike an elderly man with a hammer has more problems than doing his homework.
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No question! On one hand San Francisco is one of the most amazing cities in the world. The reality though is we have a large number of drugged out/mentally ill people who live here. It’s a struggle where I try and teach my daughter to have compassion and empathy for those on the street vs the reality of mentally ill people will attack you for no reason and you better be aware.

I’m sure we’ll find out the full story here shortly but mentally ill people committing violent acts is not an uncommon occurrence in these parts.
 
cawacko said:
No question! On one hand San Francisco is one of the most amazing cities in the world. The reality though is we have a large number of drugged out/mentally ill people who live here. It’s a struggle where I try and teach my daughter to have compassion and empathy for those on the street vs the reality of mentally ill people will attack you for no reason and you better be aware.

I’m sure we’ll find out the full story here shortly but mentally ill people committing violent acts is not an uncommon occurrence in these parts.
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The numbers of unstable individuals seems to have risen everywhere in the last few years, suppose it is a sign of the times, things move to fast, too much information, many can’t adapt. And, as I said, the city has always prided itself on “freedom,” what better place for a lost soul to relocate

I told you, move to New England, cash in your SF holdings and relocate to the Maine coast, lobster instead of crab, no big time college football, but haven’t seen a lot of that on the West Coast in quite awhile
 
archives said:
The numbers of unstable individuals seems to have risen everywhere in the last few years, suppose it is a sign of the times, things move to fast, too much information, many can’t adapt. And, as I said, the city has always prided itself on “freedom,” what better place for a lost soul to relocate

I told you, move to New England, cash in your SF holdings and relocate to the Maine coast, lobster instead of crab, no big time college football, but haven’t seen a lot of that on the West Coast in quite awhile
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I’m a golfer. I need to live in a climate where I can play year round. Can’t do that in New England. And I don’t have the kind of money where I can “winter in Florida” or some other warmer local.
 
Hello archives,

archives said:
Neither was the Florida bomber

What we do know is that the guy is a dimwit either influenced by drugs, mental instability, greed, or inspired by hate speech, could even be the combination of any two or three
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Agreed. The individual is not coming off very smart. Everything else is a guess.
 
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