Patrick Lawrence: Why Are the Russians Retreating in Ukraine? | Scheerpost

Phoenyx said:
Alt left holds the same thing.
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There is definitely a far left, those who believe the more moderate left is not going far enough, but there is no such thing as an "alt left." It just does not exist.

Phoenyx said:
You're talking of things like combat intelligence, and there I can agree.
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We are talking about open combat intelligence. Arm chair generals can follow the frontlines on their cell phones from anywhere in the world. We have more access to information with this war than ever before.


Phoenyx said:
The issue that Patrick Lawrence highlights is the absolute dearth of accurate information that is being fed to the public at large.
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There is more accurate information being released than ever before. There is more inaccurate information being released than ever before. There is better fact checkers than ever before. This is not just a slightly less opaque war than ever before, it is an exponentially less opaque war than ever before.

You probably have a smart cell phone with 12MP camera. A decade ago, that would have been prohibitively expensive and huge, but today, it is easy to get. Assuming you are not Russian, you can go to Ukraine without a visa. They will warn you about going to the frontline, but they will not stop you from going. You could easily be a frontline reporter, sending back detailed photos, with just a few thousand dollars for expenses.

I do not suggest it, because it is extremely dangerous, but many, many people are doing it. Many more are already there and sending pictures and movies.
 
Walt said:
There is definitely a far left, those who believe the more moderate left is not going far enough, but there is no such thing as an "alt left." It just does not exist.
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Clearly not everyone agrees with your assessment:

Antifa and the ‘Alt-Left’: Everything You Need to Know | Rolling Stone

Quoting from the article:

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Though it began as an insult within the left – a way to further deride the far left and so-called “Bernie Bros” during and after November’s election – the right has adopted the phrase, as well. Sean Hannity and other, fringier monsters of the far-right media ecosystem have been, for at least a year now, pushing the idea of the “alt-left” as some sort of answer to the charge that the “alt-right,” a very real political entity, has hijacked and poisoned the Republican party. The Washington Post best described it in 2016 as “The GOP’s response: I know what you are but what am I.”
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I myself wanted Bernie Sanders to win, so by the establishment left, I could be considered to be on the "alt left".

Walt said:
Phoenyx said:
You're talking of things like combat intelligence, and there I can agree.
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We are talking about open combat intelligence. Arm chair generals can follow the frontlines on their cell phones from anywhere in the world. We have more access to information with this war than ever before.
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In some ways, sure, but not in others. I've already given you several examples of the Ukrainian government lying during this war and the western mainstream media just parroting whatever they tell them.

Walt said:
Phoenyx said:
The issue that Patrick Lawrence highlights is the absolute dearth of accurate information that is being fed to the public at large.
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There is more accurate information being released than ever before. There is more inaccurate information being released than ever before. There is better fact checkers than ever before.
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Do you have any evidence to back up this assertion? Patrick Lawrence, who used to write articles for the New York Times, has come to the conclusion that it has become incredibly twisted recently. His latest article which he published today points this out as well. I decided to make a thread of it here:

Patrick Lawrence: The Shadows Descend in Ukraine | Scheerpost

Walt said:
This is not just a slightly less opaque war than ever before, it is an exponentially less opaque war than ever before.

You probably have a smart cell phone with 12MP camera. A decade ago, that would have been prohibitively expensive and huge, but today, it is easy to get. Assuming you are not Russian, you can go to Ukraine without a visa. They will warn you about going to the frontline, but they will not stop you from going. You could easily be a frontline reporter, sending back detailed photos, with just a few thousand dollars for expenses.
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It seems you're unaware of Ukraine's black list called Myrotvorets. Wikipedia has a page on it here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myrotvorets

Quoting from the article:
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On 7 May 2016, the website published the personal data of 4,508 journalists and other media members from all over the world who had worked (or had received accreditation to work) on the war in the uncontrolled government territory of Donbas, and therefore were considered by the site to have cooperated with terrorists.[24][25][26] There were phone numbers, email addresses, and some countries and cities of residence of Ukrainian and foreign journalists received from the hacked database of Donetsk People's Republic Ministry of State Security; journalists and support staff provided these data to be accredited by the unrecognized Donetsk People's Republic. In response, the Security Service of Ukraine issued a statement that it found no violations of Ukrainian law by Myrotvorets.[27] According to Yulia Gorbunova, senior researcher for Human Rights Watch, the implications this list has for press freedoms is serious, adding that the existence of the list puts lives in danger.[12] The then President of Ukraine, Petro Poroshenko called the leak a "big mistake".[28]
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Here's an article on the site:

Journalists demand that the Mirotvorets website be classified as a terrorist organization and closed down | Donbass Insider

Quoting the introduction of the article:

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September 9, 2022

On 6 September 2022, a conference organized by the Anti-Repression Foundation entitled “Information Gestapo: Ukrainian nationalist website Mirotvorets lists are used to suppress free speech and repress journalists” took place in Moscow”.

I participated in this conference with colleagues from several Western countries: Germany, USA, Finland, Netherlands, Canada, England.

All the journalists present condemned the very existence of Mirotvorets, while stressing that the attempt to silence them by scaring them would not work. They all confirmed that they would continue to do their work, regardless of the death threats against them.

It should be remembered that the Mirotvorets site publishes, among other things, personal data on journalists, scans of their passports, their addresses, information about their relatives and even information about their vehicles (in my case, my old car has all its data, including its VIN code and old registration number, published on this site). All this information makes it possible to track down journalists who are on Mirotvorets’ lists, and can only have been provided to this site by secret services (Ukrainian, or perhaps Western).

Mira Terada, the director of the Anti-Repression Foundation presented figures on the number of Western journalists listed on the Mirotvorets website. Of the 341 journalists listed on Mirotvorets, 83 are journalists from outside Russia, Ukraine, DPR and LPR (Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics). The overwhelming majority (80) are Western journalists.

She also recalled that several journalists had been killed after their data was published by the Mirotvorets website, such as Oles Bouzina, Andrea Rocchelli, Zemfira Soulaeïmanova, Andreï Stenine, Igor Korneliouk, Anton Volochine, and more recently Daria Douguina.
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moon said:
The ' diplomatic solution ' will be a cast-iron, written guarantee that NATO will not permit Ukraine membership.

Russia will also want to preserve the independence of the pro-Russian regions that have declared as republics- and Crimea, of course.

Ukraine will have to get rid of Zelensky to achieve it.
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Russia can go suck a dick, and you can get back to sucking Putin's
 
Gondwanaland said:
Yes, please do avoid me, I don't want you sucking my dick. Stick to your commie boy Putin.
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moon said:
No- I won't be avoiding you. I'll just look for you on my list of JPP fellatio fetishists for identification.



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No thanks, I don't need you're cum-stained lips anywhere near me. Stick to deepthroating your boy Putin, you traitorous cunt.
 
Gondwanaland said:
No thanks, I don't need you're cum-stained lips anywhere near me. Stick to deepthroating your boy Putin, you traitorous cunt.
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Aw, your show of affection assures my future attention.
Who doesn't like a demented potty-mouth on a cold wet Sunday.

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