Pathetic Pelosi... just PATHETIC....

We do NOT classify humans into categories where ones life is worth less than another.

I'm assuming you wrote this in response to her post. If that is so, we do indeed classify humans in to categories where ones life is worth less than another. All you need to do is look at the differences in crimes against people and crimes against police officers. Or look at sentencing between convictions of the same.
 
I'm assuming you wrote this in response to her post. If that is so, we do indeed classify humans in to categories where ones life is worth less than another. All you need to do is look at the differences in crimes against people and crimes against police officers. Or look at sentencing between convictions of the same.

Yep. Congratulations you finally got something correct.
 
I'm assuming you wrote this in response to her post. If that is so, we do indeed classify humans in to categories where ones life is worth less than another. All you need to do is look at the differences in crimes against people and crimes against police officers. Or look at sentencing between convictions of the same.

Right on. :clink:
 
A fertilized egg cell is a Human child. Period. That childs life is every bit as valid as my sisters (one of whom is pregnant again with a CHILD) or my mothers or aunts or cousins. No matter how much you would like to treat kids as subhumans, it does not make you right.

Like I said, you are desperate because you wish to feel better about your desire to kill kids.

Obviously I value my family members more than you do.


LMAO.... geneticists have mapped the entire human genome you twit. They most certainly CAN prove something is human.

Are you dense or are you just playing the part on here? I said,
For a geneticist to claim something is a human being is nothing more than an arbitrary designation. They can prove something contains human material. That's where it stops.

Anyway, we can all be thankful Bush and his refusal to fund stem cell research has come to an end. Let's both be happy about that. And women still have the right to abort.

The universe is unfolding as it should. :clink:
 
Obviously I value my family members more than you do.




Are you dense or are you just playing the part on here? I said,

Anyway, we can all be thankful Bush and his refusal to fund stem cell research has come to an end. Let's both be happy about that. And women still have the right to abort.

The universe is unfolding as it should. :clink:

No you do not value your family more. I would protect my sisters unborn child every bit as much as I would my sister. Neither is worth less. Both are lives I would take a bullet to protect.

No I am not dense. you stated that geneticists calling something human was 'arbitrary'. It is not. It is fact derived from our ability to map the genome.
 
It's got nothing to do with desperation. Again, let's compare. That's how we classify things. By comparison.

For example, if a person walks into a store, takes something and leaves without permission (paying for it) we call that theft because if a person took something from our home without permission it would be theft. We can compare.

Now, as for a "developing" human being it's like throwing an egg, flour,water and a few other ingredients in a pot and calling it a cake. It may become a cake if the ingredients are mixed and baked but it is not a cake at the present time even though it may contain all the ingredients of a cake.

Also, human beings have certain parts. A fertilized cell does not contain all the parts that human beings normally have. They develop. They come into existence at a later time.

You keep saying genetically proven. What makes genetics the defining definition? Genetics can prove my toe is human. Genetics can prove there is certain material present. That does not prove my toe a human being.

For a geneticist to claim something is a human being is nothing more than an arbitrary designation. They can prove something contains human material. That's where it stops.

The revolting thing about designating a fetus a human being is it dehumanizes every other human being, especially women by having the value of their life compared to something one can barely see.

That is the vileness of the comparison. Maybe you don't feel the life of your wife or daughter or sister or mother is worth more than a fertilized cell but most people do.

On the other hand if you do feel their lives are worth more then.....well, down the road we go towards two classes of human beings and I think a German fella tried that once.

So, Superfreak, which is it? Are the lives of your female family members not worth more than a fertilized cell or are you going down the other road?

Long story short, you people are mass murderers, and I would put no crime or action beyond your range of capacity.
 
Ask yourself apple, would it be reasonable for those concerned about turtle populations to also protect the eggs of the turtle? Why or why not? show your work.
 
No you do not value your family more. I would protect my sisters unborn child every bit as much as I would my sister. Neither is worth less. Both are lives I would take a bullet to protect.

No I am not dense. you stated that geneticists calling something human was 'arbitrary'. It is not. It is fact derived from our ability to map the genome.

OK. Let's get to the heart of the matter. If your sister was experiencing complications with her pregnancy and there was a possibility of her sustaining damage should she be forced to continue the pregnancy?

For example, if she had uncontrolled high blood pressure should she be obliged to take the risk of suffering permanent kidney damage?

As for geneticists I never said it was arbitrary to say something is human. I said it was arbitrary to say something is a human being. My toe is human. It is not a human being.
 
OK. Let's get to the heart of the matter. If your sister was experiencing complications with her pregnancy and there was a possibility of her sustaining damage should she be forced to continue the pregnancy?

For example, if she had uncontrolled high blood pressure should she be obliged to take the risk of suffering permanent kidney damage?

As for geneticists I never said it was arbitrary to say something is human. I said it was arbitrary to say something is a human being. My toe is human. It is not a human being.

If it's arbitrary to say something is a human being, it's equally arbitrary to say it's not.
 
Ask yourself apple, would it be reasonable for those concerned about turtle populations to also protect the eggs of the turtle? Why or why not? show your work.

Show my work? I've only had one cup of coffee so far! You're not a very compassionate fella, are you??:cof1:

Certain species of fish are protected. For example, the grunion. There is a closed season. That means one can not catch those fish. If a person is walking along the beach and picks up one of their eggs have they broken the law?
 
Show my work? I've only had one cup of coffee so far! You're not a very compassionate fella, are you??:cof1:

Certain species of fish are protected. For example, the grunion. There is a closed season. That means one can not catch those fish. If a person is walking along the beach and picks up one of their eggs have they broken the law?

That depends on if it's part of the restriction.
 
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