Papadopoulos Urged to Withdraw Guilty Plea – Was Set Up By Deep State Spies

[dukkha]

Nothing about the FISA warrant was phony. It was approved by multiple judges. Whether or not the dossier was involved doesn't matter because the investigation was triggered by Papadopolous being unable to keep his mouth shut.

triggering the investigation has nothing to do with the accuracy of the FISA application.
I suggest you familiarize yourself with Woods Procedure for the FBI, and the fact circular sources were used to show there was supposedly more then the Steele dossier behind application.

Nunes memo raises question: Did FBI violate Woods Procedures?
http://thehill.com/opinion/campaign...ses-question-did-fbi-violate-woods-procedures

Comey allegedly signed three of the FISA applications on behalf of the FBI. Deputy Director Andrew McCabe reportedly signed one and former Attorney General Sally Yates, then-Acting Deputy Attorney General Dana Boente and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein each reportedly signed one or more.

I want to see the EC. Informants were being run at the campaign before the Papadopolis silly bar room talk.
That is nowhere near enough to warrant a full scale counterintelligence investigation either

You posts are so full of incorrect info I'm not even getting into debate.
You can't even define a conspiracy

 

[LV426]

triggering the investigation has nothiong to do with the accuracy of the FISA.

So please, show me what from the dossier has been proven untrue?

 

[LV426]

I suggest you familiarize yourself with Woods Procedure for the FBI, and the fact circular sources were used to show there was supposedly more then the Steele dossier behind application.

So what?

You're whining because a FISA judge approved a warrant based on accurately investigated information?

You seem upset simply because the dossier stands unchallenged and it lays out a pretty clear case of Trump's corruption.

 

[Lesh]

But you are!

You're claiming the dossier is false.

You're claiming Clinton conspired with Russia to throw the election to Trump.

You're claiming nothing came from the Trump Tower meeting and you base that on...Uday's own word? Well, they all lied twice about that meeting already, so why wouldn't they also be lying about what came of it?

And the meeting on it's FACE...regardless of what actually transpired was an illegal conspiracy

 

[LV426]

I want to see the EC. Informants were being run at the campaign before the Papadopolis silly bar room talk.

Carter Page had been under investigation for years.

But Nunes' own memo says Papadopolous was the trigger for the investigation.

You seem to be whining about the Dossier, yet you can't exactly explain how the dossier is wrong or investigators using it to help their investigation is a bad thing? So let's say the FISA judge used the dossier in helping him make his decision to grant a warrant -SO WHAT? What is your problem with it? Obviously, not the contents of the dossier since you've been unable to prove anything from it is wrong. So it seems like your panties are in a twist simply because the dossier provided a good bit of info on Trump; info it seems investigators had already had. After all, it was McCain who leaked the Steele Dossier because the FBI told Steele they already had most of what his dossier covered.

So where's the impropriety? Can you even say? No. You're just mad because the evidence seems to indicate Trump is a cheater, traitor, and fraud. Because you've hitched your wagon to him, there's no going back now. You're one of those who I expect to delete your account and create a brand new one that disassociates from Trump once he's removed.

You posts are so full of incorrect info I'm not even getting into debate.

What's incorrect? Please, point it out. Because this reads like you're just being lazy as fuck, and that you know there's nothing wrong with anything I've written.

You can't even define a conspiracy

Oh, word?

• Papadopolous was approached by Russia, who claimed to have "dirt" on Clinton
• Papadopolous told Drumpf and his superiors (Clovis, Sessions) about what Russia had
• Scavino, a Drumpf campaign official, tweeted on May 11th, 2016 that Russia was in possession of stolen e-mails related to Clinton
• Goldstone & Uday Drumpf arrange a meeting at Drumpf Tower with the Russians who had the stolen info
• Uday, Manafort, and Kushner all meet with Russian lawyers at Drumpf Tower to discuss the "dirt" Russia had
• Drumpf himself dictates a memo about the meeting, claiming it was about "adoptions" to hide what the meeting was truly about (hacked e-mails)
• Wikileaks dumps those Russian-stolen e-mails during the Democratic Convention in a calculated political move to undermine the Democratic Party's attempt at unity
• A couple days later, Drumpf goes on live TV and asks Russia to hack Clinton
• That same day, Russia launches a spear-phishing campaign against Clinton's personal servers
• At this time, Comey begins the FBI investigation of the Russian attacks
• In January 2017, Drumpf is shown irrefutable evidence that Putin directly ordered the attacks
• In May 2017, Drumpf fires Comey "because of Russia"

 

[LV426]

And the meeting on it's FACE...regardless of what actually transpired was an illegal conspiracy

Yes, it certainly was.

They also tried to cover up that meeting by having Trump himself personally dictate a memo saying the meeting was about "adoptions". Hmmm...I'd say that memo constitutes Obstruction of Justice.

 

[dukkha]

So what?

You're whining because a FISA judge approved a warrant based on accurately investigated information?

You seem upset simply because the dossier stands unchallenged and it lays out a pretty clear case of Trump's corruption.

not "accurately investigated "at all.
Even Steele said his memos were "raw intelligence -maybe 50-50" but they were used anyway

http://thehill.com/opinion/campaign...ses-question-did-fbi-violate-woods-procedures
There are strict rules requiring that each and every fact presented in an FBI request to electronically spy on a U.S. citizen be extreme-vetted for accuracy — and presented to the court only if verified.

There’s no dispute that at least some, if not a great deal, of information in the anti-Trump “Steele dossier” was unverified or false.

 

[Irish]

It's not that hard.

• Papadopolous was approached by Russia, who claimed to have "dirt" on Clinton
• Papadopolous told Trump and his superiors (Clovis, Sessions) about what Russia had
• Scavino, a Trump campaign official, tweeted on May 11th, 2016 that Russia was in possession of stolen e-mails related to Clinton
• Goldstone & Uday Trump arrange a meeting at Trump Tower with the Russians who had the stolen info
• Uday, Manafort, and Kushner all meet with Russian lawyers at Trump Tower to discuss the "dirt" Russia had
• Trump himself dictates a memo about the meeting, claiming it was about "adoptions" to hide what the meeting was truly about (hacked e-mails)
• Wikileaks dumps those Russian-stolen e-mails during the Democratic Convention in a calculated political move to undermine the Democratic Party's attempt at unity
• A couple days later, Trump goes on live TV and asks Russia to hack Clinton
• That same day, Russia launches a spear-phishing campaign against Clinton's personal servers
• At this time, Comey begins the FBI investigation of the Russian attacks
• In January 2017, Trump is shown irrefutable evidence that Putin directly ordered the attacks
• In May 2017, Trump fires Comey "because of Russia"

So not only did Trump's team break the law by soliciting "a thing of value" (stolen e-mails) from Russia, they also lied about having that meeting to the FBI and Mueller, lied about what the meeting was about, and are now trying to lie about what came from that meeting when they've given us zero reasons to trust in anything they say about it because they've changed the story about that meeting at least twice. Oh and also there's Obstruction of Justice all over this bitch; from making false statements to Congress to firing Comey "because of Russia".

 

[LV426]

not "accurately investigated "at all.

Well, trouble is that when Steele was called in to the FBI to discuss the dossier, the FBI told him that most of what's in the dossier are things they've already found or investigated. That's why McCain leaked the memo; because Steele was told by the FBI it already had that info, but Steele didn't believe their sincerity. That's why McCain leaked it after the FISA warrants had long been issued.

The problem with you is that you have literally no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

The contents of the dossier were also what the FBI had found on its own. That's what they told Steele in the fall of 2016.

 

[LV426]

There’s no dispute that at least some, if not a great deal, of information in the anti-Trump “Steele dossier” was unverified or false.
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Should be noted that this^ is just Nunes' opinion.

It should also be noted that no one has ever actually disproved anything from the Steele Dossier. Not a thing. You can't cite a single thing from that dossier that has been proven untrue.

Not that it matters anyway, because the same info the dossier had, the FBI also had found on its own. The whole reason the Steele Dossier was leaked by McCain was because the FBI told Steele they already had most of what he wrote.

 

[LV426]

What's pathetic about you is that you simply cannot argue any of the points I've made, so the strategy you're now employing is just blanket denials and obfuscation.

When Trump goes down, and he will, you won't be allowed to jump on a life boat of "re-branding" like you did with the teabags in 2009, and MAGA in 2015.

 

[dukkha]

Well, trouble is that when Steele was called in to the FBI to discuss the dossier, the FBI told him that most of what's in the dossier are things they've already found or investigated. That's why McCain leaked the memo; because Steele was told by the FBI it already had that info, but Steele didn't believe their sincerity. That's why McCain leaked it after the FISA warrants had long been issued.

The problem with you is that you have literally no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

The contents of the dossier were also what the FBI had found on its own. That's what they told Steele in the fall of 2016.

pile of garbage. McCain didn't leak the memo -he alerted the FBI. Your posting is convoluted nonsense

Sen. John McCain personally delivers the Steele Dossier directly to then-FBI Director Comey.

 

[Darth Omar]

So far, you guys have changed your story twice about the Trump Tower meeting:

1. You all denied it even happened.
2. Then you said it was about "adoptions"
3. Now you're saying nothing came from it.

So you've already changed the story twice about that meeting, so why wouldn't you also be lying about what came from that meeting?

My meeting ‘story’ has been a consistent NOTHING BURGER from day one.

You keep claiming the meeting was about emails yet there isn’t a word about emails in the chain of communication between Trump and Goldstone.

Read it for yourself:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...rump-jr-emails-full-text-russia-rob-goldstone

I don’t care about the third character. I’m asking you to prove Trump knew it was about emails or prove that stolen emails were a topic of the meeting.

Good luck.

 

[Darth Omar]

Should be noted that this^ is just Nunes' opinion.

It should also be noted that no one has ever actually disproved anything from the Steele Dossier. Not a thing. You can't cite a single thing from that dossier that has been proven untrue.

Not that it matters anyway, because the same info the dossier had, the FBI also had found on its own. The whole reason the Steele Dossier was leaked by McCain was because the FBI told Steele they already had most of what he wrote.

Nobody has disproven Scientology.

 

[LV426]

pile of garbage. McCain didn't leak the memo -he alerted the FBI.

So the FBI wasn't using the Steele dossier in its investigations, then, since McCain leaked it to Comey after the election.

So there goes your talking point that the FISA warrants were based on the Steele dossier, the dossier that McCain gave to Comey well after the FISA warrants had already been issued.

So you have a timeline problem; one that completely undermines your entire argument. The Steele dossier couldn't have been used to attain the FISA warrants since McCain gave the dossier to Comey after the election.

Your posting is convoluted nonsense

No, you're just a fucking liar who is trying to cover for Trump for some stupid reason.

 

[Irish]

What's pathetic about you is that you simply cannot argue any of the points I've made, so the strategy you're now employing is just blanket denials and obfuscation.

When Trump goes down, and he will, you won't be allowed to jump on a life boat of "re-branding" like you did with the teabags in 2009, and MAGA in 2015.

That's because you didn't provide any proof or links to your assertions. None of those have been proven. And many are hunches created by you and other lefties.

Muller so far hasn't turned anything up, except a stupid banking case against Manafort. Which is a pretty far stretch from Russia Collusion.

 

[LV426]

My meeting ‘story’ has been a consistent NOTHING BURGER from day one.

Nope.

From day one, you all denied any contact with Russia at all.

Then you said the meeting was about "adoptions".

Now you're saying the meeting was about getting "dirt" but nothing came of it.

So you changed your stories twice regarding that meeting; so why wouldn't you also be lying about what came of the meeting?

 

[Jarod]

They’ve been gnawing on the Russian bone for two years now. The best evidence of collusion is Junior’s amateur hour attempt lol. Someone’s jaws have to be exhausted.

Meanwhile, other stuff keeps coming to light. The Ohr’s tie the DOJ in with Fusion when Steele was supposedly fired for lying to the FBI; the multiple firings on the Seventh Floor, one for extreme animus towards Trump—by the very individual who was leading the initial stages of the Russian investigation; if things ever get to court, you can be assured that will be brought up; the sketchy shenanigans with the FISA court; the refusal of the FBI to obey congressional document requests; running government informants/spies against a presidential campaign—are we in Russia!?! And on and on.

It just keeps dripping.

Junior's "attempt" is criminal.

 

[Darth Omar]

Nope.

From day one, you all denied any contact with Russia at all.

Then you said the meeting was about "adoptions".

Now you're saying the meeting was about getting "dirt" but nothing came of it.

So you changed your stories twice regarding that meeting; so why wouldn't you also be lying about what came of the meeting?

It’s a lie that I ever came off adoptions.

 

[LV426]

ou keep claiming the meeting was about emails yet there isn’t a word about emails in the chain of communication between Trump and Goldstone.

Yes, there was:

offered to provide the Drumpf campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary [Clinton] and her dealings with Russia

And we know what those official documents and information were because Scavino tweeted about them on May 11th, 2016:

Kremlin has Hillary's e-mails. Russia has 20,000 emails stolen from her secret home server

Whoopsie Poopsie!

I’m asking you to prove Drumpf knew it was about emails or prove that stolen emails were a topic of the meeting.

Scavino told us they were stolen e-mails on May 11th, and that they were stolen by Russia -the same "Russia" whose government Goldstone and Uday say in their e-mail exchange.

Scavino was a Trump campaign official.