Ouch, big time Ouch

[Into the Night]

Trump is the author of this mess. He does not know what he is doing. Unless he is making a fortune off moving the market up and down . He is hurting the nation, but he does not care about that.

Trump isn't hurting anything, Sybil.

 

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The stock market is not the economy.
The Bond market is not the economy.
The value of the dollar is not the economy.

Buying and selling goods and services for an agreed upon price is the economy.

People are building more houses and buildings now, and improving them. That means more people laying concrete and asphalt, making and selling lumber and metal and gypsum products, making plumbing products and wiring products, and even more government inspectors conducting inspections of projects underway.

Truck traffic at our local quarry and batch plant is almost continuous now!

ALL of my investments are doing wonderfully,
...and I'm selling more instrumentation than ever!

Never said it was, but it, especially when combined with the Bond Market and the value of the Dollar, gives us a good indicator on the state of the economy, one much more accurate than your antidotal accounts of truck traffic and some quarry

 

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You seem to be confused, thinking the economy is a blimp.

Once again, never said it was, do you ever get anything right

 

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Trump does not control the Dow Jones futures.

Never said he did, that’s the fourth time in a row you lied, if you got nothing to offer but lies, quit, it only makes you look foolish

 

[goat]

Guess you missed the “this is all self inflicted,” is is not cyclical nor structural, but all bought about because of Trump’s policies

The Dow has been overvalued ever since outsourcing became popular with corporations back in the late '80s and early '90s. NAFTA broke American workers back so real unemployment has been at or above 20% for close to 25 years.

The Dow has nothing to do with middle class Americans.

 

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The Dow has been overvalued ever since outsourcing became popular with corporations back in the late '80s and early '90s. NAFTA broke American workers back so real unemployment has been at or above 20% for close to 25 years.

The Dow has nothing to do with middle class Americans.

If the Dow has been so overvalued for the last forty years how did the US build the greatest, most productive economy in the world with advancing wages and 4% unemployment?

The factory jobs disappearing was natural, they moved from the NorthEast to the South and eventually out of the country, called capitalism, seeking cheaper labor costs, it was inevitable. Those jobs aren’t returning, and if they did, new plants would be built based on automation

Called using the comparative advantage in trade your national possess. The opportunity cost of returning to a 1950’s model is too great

 

[goat]

If the Dow has been so overvalued for the last forty years how did the US build the greatest, most productive economy in the world with advancing wages and 4% unemployment?

The factory jobs disappearing was natural, they moved from the NorthEast to the South and eventually out of the country, called capitalism, seeking cheaper labor costs, it was inevitable. Those jobs aren’t returning, and if they did, new plants would be built based on automation

Called using the comparative advantage in trade your national possess. The opportunity cost of returning to a 1950’s model is too great

Marx predicted the late-stage capitalism we are living in. Things will only get worse no matter who is potus. Compare China's infrastructure to what we have in the US.

Again, the middle class is in decline because of the markets.

 

[Into the Night]

If it was only that easy

It's even easier, but it truly eludes you.

Attempting to simplify it, not wanting to invest shows a lack of faith in that company or entity on making money.

I do invest, and I am making money. All of my investments are doing well.

Whatever the stock, if it is projected to decline in profit, investors sell.

I don't invest in stock. I don't gamble like you do.

Traditionally one then turns to the Bond Market or Dollar,

I don't invest in Bonds either.

but both of those are also shrinking in value.

US government debt is not going down. The dollar is shrinking in value and has been since fiat currency was initiated in the United States by FDR (a Democrat).

 

[Into the Night]

Never said it was, but it, especially when combined with the Bond Market and the value of the Dollar, gives us a good indicator on the state of the economy, one much more accurate than your antidotal accounts of truck traffic and some quarry

The Bond market is not the economy.
The dollar is not the economy.

 

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It's even easier, but it truly eludes you.

I do invest, and I am making money. All of my investments are doing well.

I don't invest in stock. I don't gamble like you do.

I don't invest in Bonds either.

US government debt is not going down. The dollar is shrinking in value and has been since fiat currency was initiated in the United States by FDR (a Democrat).

Same idiocy ^ over and over again, boring

Adios

 

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Same idiocy ^ over and over again, boring

Adios

Awwwww. Anchovies missed out on making money, yet again!

 

[Into the Night]

Never said it was, but it, especially when combined with the Bond Market and the value of the Dollar, gives us a good indicator on the state of the economy, one much more accurate than your antidotal accounts of truck traffic and some quarry

Don't try to deny your own posts, anchovies. It never works.

 

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Once again, never said it was, do you ever get anything right

Don't try to deny your own posts, anchovies. It never works.

 

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Never said he did, that’s the fourth time in a row you lied, if you got nothing to offer but lies, quit, it only makes you look foolish

Don't try to deny your own posts, anchovies.

 

[Into the Night]

If it was only that easy

It's even easier, but it truly eludes you.

Attempting to simplify it, not wanting to invest shows a lack of faith in that company or entity on making money.

I do invest, and I am making money. All of my investments are doing well.

Whatever the stock, if it is projected to decline in profit, investors sell.

I don't invest in stock. I don't gamble like you do.

Traditionally one then turns to the Bond Market or Dollar,

I don't invest in Bonds either.

but both of those are also shrinking in value.

US government debt is not going down. The dollar is shrinking in value and has been since fiat currency was initiated in the United States by FDR (a Democrat).

Together, if all three are underperforming, it depicts a shaky economy, history has shown us America, and the world, suffers from a Bear market

The stock market is not the economy. The bond market is not the economy. Cash is not an investment.

 

[Into the Night]

Market is at 39,000, nowhere near the 45,000 it was last December, it did recover some of the loss from yesterday, but that just highlights its unpredictably, up one day, down the next, leaves investors in a quagmire

And Gold hitting new highs isn’t all good, Gold is an international commodity, when it rises so dramatically it shows the lack of faith investors have in the current state of the US Markets

Gold is a US market, anchovies.

 

[Into the Night]

If it was only that easy

Attempting to simplify it, not wanting to invest shows a lack of faith in that company

The DOW is not a company, anchovies.

or entity on making money. Whatever the stock, if it is projected to decline in profit, investors sell.

You are not a seer, anchovies. You cannot read magick sticks. You cannot read palms. You cannot get the future in a crystal ball.

Traditionally one then turns to the Bond Market or Dollar, but both of those are also shrinking in value. Together, if all three are underperforming, it depicts a shaky economy, history has shown us America, and the world, suffers from a Bear market

All my investments are performing well. Too bad you made bad choices.

 

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Now with that said, where do you think the indexes will be a year from now? Higher or lower?

I think the S&P 500 will be below 4,000 some point this year, and then will gradually start rising with double digit inflation. I doubt it will go below 3,000.

Five years from now? Higher or lower?

After four years of double digit inflation, it will be hard for the stock market to be lower than it is right now... But trump might just be able to do it.

I still go with higher, but certainly not in inflation adjusted values.

I put some money to work in TQQQ at $39. So far it is paying off nicely.

If that is an unrealized gain, you might be in real trouble. Investing in the bounces as a stock rolls downhill is only a successful strategy if you take the money and run when you have a gain. You might buy at $39, celebrate that it went to $48, only to see it crash to $30. Then you invest more, and it goes to $35... And then crashes to $20.

The question you should be asking is there any possible universe where TQQQ be higher in August? In my opinion, there is not.

But I might be wrong. If I am wrong, and you invest differently than I would, you will probably make a lot of money.