Ouch, big time Ouch

A

archives

Verified User

“Dow Headed for Worst April Since 1932”​

“The Dow Jones Industrial Average shed almost 1,000 points on Monday and is headed for its worst April performance since 1932, according to Dow Jones Market Data. The S&P 500’s performance since Inauguration Day is now the worst for any president up to this point in data going back to 1928”

“Meanwhile, counterweights that usually strengthen when stocks fall—such as government bonds and the U.S. dollar—are also under pressure, leaving investors with few havens to wait out the storm.

“It’s the hallmark of the ‘no confidence’ trade,” said Scott Ladner, chief investment officer at Horizon Investments. “It’s impossible to commit capital to an economy that is unstable and unknowable because of policy structure.”

“Concerns about the economy are weighing on the U.S. dollar. The ICE U.S. dollar index, a measure of the dollar against a basket of major currencies, slipped more than 1% on Monday”


And the shame of it all is that it is self inflicted
 
archives said:

“Dow Headed for Worst April Since 1932”​

“The Dow Jones Industrial Average shed almost 1,000 points on Monday and is headed for its worst April performance since 1932, according to Dow Jones Market Data. The S&P 500’s performance since Inauguration Day is now the worst for any president up to this point in data going back to 1928”

“Meanwhile, counterweights that usually strengthen when stocks fall—such as government bonds and the U.S. dollar—are also under pressure, leaving investors with few havens to wait out the storm.

“It’s the hallmark of the ‘no confidence’ trade,” said Scott Ladner, chief investment officer at Horizon Investments. “It’s impossible to commit capital to an economy that is unstable and unknowable because of policy structure.”

“Concerns about the economy are weighing on the U.S. dollar. The ICE U.S. dollar index, a measure of the dollar against a basket of major currencies, slipped more than 1% on Monday”


And the shame of it all is that it is self inflicted
Click to expand...
So?
 
archives said:

“Dow Headed for Worst April Since 1932”​

“The Dow Jones Industrial Average shed almost 1,000 points on Monday and is headed for its worst April performance since 1932, according to Dow Jones Market Data. The S&P 500’s performance since Inauguration Day is now the worst for any president up to this point in data going back to 1928”

“Meanwhile, counterweights that usually strengthen when stocks fall—such as government bonds and the U.S. dollar—are also under pressure, leaving investors with few havens to wait out the storm.

“It’s the hallmark of the ‘no confidence’ trade,” said Scott Ladner, chief investment officer at Horizon Investments. “It’s impossible to commit capital to an economy that is unstable and unknowable because of policy structure.”

“Concerns about the economy are weighing on the U.S. dollar. The ICE U.S. dollar index, a measure of the dollar against a basket of major currencies, slipped more than 1% on Monday”


And the shame of it all is that it is self inflicted
Click to expand...
Nobody tracks the DOW anymore. What are you 90? Those who know, only track the S&P and Nasdaq.

Now with that said, where do you think the indexes will be a year from now? Higher or lower? Five years from now? Higher or lower?

You can whine and complain or you can treat it like the buying opportunity it is like I have.

I put some money to work in TQQQ at $39. So far it is paying off nicely.
 
ugly and fat America won't want to accept this, but a global market correction is needed.

just as our unskilled workers don't deserve to live 10x better than unskilled workers to our south - our markets should recede from time to time. it has been propped up for too long
 
Teflon Don said:
Nobody tracks the DOW anymore. What are you 90? Those who know, only track the S&P and Nasdaq.

Now with that said, where do you think the indexes will be a year from now? Higher or lower? Five years from now? Higher or lower?

You can whine and complain or you can treat it like the buying opportunity it is like I have.

I put some money to work in TQQQ at $39. So far it is paying off nicely.
Click to expand...
Anyone with a 401k does, and Trump does, he doesn’t waste a moment boasting credit at any ticking up, and if it falls, it’s automatically “Biden’s fault,” although now Trump has a new scapegoat, Powell

The world tracks the Dow, all the Markets, especially the Bond Market and the value of the Dollar when the Dow is fading, both of which are also receding. Investors, domestic and foreign, are shying away due to the unpredictability, and personal anecdotals don’t alter those facts
 
zymurgy said:
ugly and fat America won't want to accept this, but a global market correction is needed.

just as our unskilled workers don't deserve to live 10x better than unskilled workers to our south - our markets should recede from time to time. it has been propped up for too long
Click to expand...
Guess you missed the “this is all self inflicted,” is is not cyclical nor structural, but all bought about because of Trump’s policies
 
archives said:
Anyone with a 401k does, and Trump does, he doesn’t waste a moment boasting credit at any ticking up, and if it falls, it’s automatically “Biden’s fault,” although now Trump has a new scapegoat, Powell

The world tracks the Dow, all the Markets, especially the Bond Market and the value of the Dollar when the Dow is fading, both of which are also receding. Investors, domestic and foreign, are shying away due to the unpredictability, and personal anecdotals don’t alter those facts
Click to expand...
Like I said, the DOW as an index is irrelevant. You noticed that the other day, the DOW was dragged down by United Health while the S&P and Nasdaq were up?

Right now you should be tracking small caps as they always lead the way out of a bottom. The indexes always trail behind
 
archives said:
Guess you missed the “this is all self inflicted,” is is not cyclical nor structural, but all bought about because of Trump’s policies
Click to expand...
you are an economic buffoon.
millions of Americans (such as yourself) are completely unaware of our history, such as France sending a battleship to pressure us to stop robbing the world.
 
Teflon Don said:
Like I said, the DOW as an index is irrelevant. You noticed that the other day, the DOW was dragged down by United Health while the S&P and Nasdaq were up?

Right now you should be tracking small caps as they always lead the way out of a bottom. The indexes always trail behind
Click to expand...
By itself, yes, it is a limited barometer, however, as mentioned, when combined with the Bond Market and the value of the Dollar it is a strong indicator of a threatened economy
 
zymurgy said:
you are an economic buffoon.
millions of Americans (such as yourself) are completely unaware of our history, such as France sending a battleship to pressure us to stop robbing the world.
Click to expand...
What in the hell are you talking about? You start out with the need for a correction and then somehow incorporate the French threatening the US with a battleship to stop robbing the world
 
Yakuda said:
The difference is it's wasn't a rumor that the hindenburg was on fire. The stock market is NOTHING but speculation
Click to expand...

The stock market is not the economy, you are correct. But the stock market is a bellwether for corporations. If you suck trillions of dollars of capitalization out of corporate coffers I think you and both know who is going to be hit by that. The rank and file, regular joes and janes of the workforce.

In addition many of us (obviously not you) have retirement funds in 401k's (that's something you get when you get a big boy job) and we've seen years of our savings wiped out by YOUR GUY. No one else. Your guy sucked billions of dollars out of our retirements. Not a problem if we were all young. But some of us want to retire (that's something your job probably doesn't have...usually stockers at the grocery store don't Retire so much as move on to the weed shop).

I know this is all confusing to you. But for the many adults on JPP who actually DO have real jobs in industry and DO have retirement accounts this is all very bad shit. If it isn't for you it's because you are a nothing in the economy.
 
archives said:
What in the hell are you talking about? You start out with the need for a correction and then somehow incorporate the French threatening the US with a battleship to stop robbing the world
Click to expand...
like I said - an economic poser

our economy is a house of cards - and our market position is total bullshit in relation to how truly sound things have been for the last 50 years
 
All we have to do is look at history.

When the market has a significant drop, it has a negative impact on hiring, we see more layoffs, businesses tighten their belts.

The idea that it's only some speculative thing that the rich play around in is pretty disconnected. The market impacts every aspect of our economy.
 
BartenderElite said:
All we have to do is look at history.

When the market has a significant drop, it has a negative impact on hiring, we see more layoffs, businesses tighten their belts.

The idea that it's only some speculative thing that the rich play around in is pretty disconnected. The market impacts every aspect of our economy.
Click to expand...

^^^QFT.


Just as in the Depression the Stock Market crash didn't cause the depression but it was significantly correlated to the economic conditions of the time and a screaming indicator of instability and weakened economic conditions.


These folks who think the stock market is all speculation overlook the fact that the decisions and more importantly the company's performances AGAINST those speculations is what leads to massive layoffs and loss of jobs.

In industry one of the weirdest things to me is that companies are required to give their guidance for the next quarter. Basically forcing them to PREDICT (like a magician) what the economy will be like in 3 months. If the company fails to accurate predict earnings they often see themselves punished by the investors who sell off the stock and drive the capitalization down. Meaning less money for the company, and since the CEO isn't going to take a haircut it means thousands of people lose their job.
 
Yakuda said:
The difference is it's wasn't a rumor that the hindenburg was on fire. The stock market is NOTHING but speculation
Click to expand...
Markets, along with Bond Market and Dollar value, when combined together, give us a portrait of the economy, the pulse of involvement in investing, when no one is investing, your economy isn’t growing, it’s not rocket science
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top