Oregon spending more on illegal healthcare than state police

[Matt Dillon]

If true, that is their right.

It's not their right to support an invasion of the states in America.

 

[ZenMode]

It's not their right to support an invasion of the states in America.

The federal government, who's job it is to protect the border, has failed. How a state accommodates that failure is up to the state.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

If true, that is their right.

The state can. But outside of a deep blue, radical Leftist state, doing so pretty much is political death.

 

[Matt Dillon]

The federal government, who's job it is to protect the border, has failed. How a state accommodates that failure is up to the state.

Not so. The law is very clear. Most politicians that take an oath to The Constitution and do that can be removed and jailed and fined and never hold office anywhere in America again.

 

[Nordberg]

The article specifies that Oregon HB 3352, passed by the state's legislature, that ALL illegals living in the state are covered as part of expanded Medicaid. That occurred in 2021 and has been ongoing.

And now, here's the truth. https://www.uscisguide.com/state-re...access-for-undocumented-immigrants-in-oregon/

 

[T. A. Gardner]

And now, here's the truth. https://www.uscisguide.com/state-re...access-for-undocumented-immigrants-in-oregon/

Your link lists these:

1. Legal restrictions: Undocumented immigrants are not eligible for public health insurance programs such as Medicaid, which limits their access to affordable healthcare services.

That doesn't mean they aren't eligible for state run coverage. Nor does it mean that Medicaid won't reimburse hospitals for emergency medical care done to an illegal.

2. Financial constraints: Without insurance coverage, undocumented individuals often have to pay out-of-pocket for medical care, which can be prohibitively expensive.

This has nothing to do with availability of coverage by the state, etc. This is simply one of personal inability to pay, something facing many legal citizens too. It is a meaningless constraint in terms of availability of coverage.

3. Fear of deportation: Many undocumented immigrants avoid seeking medical care due to fear of being reported to immigration authorities, which can result in delayed treatment and worsened health outcomes.

Another canard. Again, this too is simply a personal concern, and doesn't address access to, or availability of, coverage.

4. Limited availability of culturally competent care: Undocumented immigrants may face language barriers and cultural differences when seeking care, leading to difficulties in communicating with healthcare providers and receiving appropriate treatment.

This is even more irrelevant. Now, the writer is trying to argue that limitations in what is available for treatment is a barrier to getting coverage for treatment.

5. Lack of knowledge about available resources: Due to their marginalized status, undocumented immigrants may be unaware of community health centers, free clinics, or other resources that could provide affordable or no-cost healthcare services.

This too is just a red herring. Now the argument is that illegals are, for all intents, uninformed and stupid and therefore cannot get healthcare coverage or treatment.

Your article is just a collection of irrelevant logical fallacies and vague generalities that are meaningless to the issue that the state of Oregon will allow illegals to obtain state offered and run healthcare insurance.

The article then lists 5 means by which illegals can obtain coverage:

In Oregon, there are several programs and resources available to help provide health care for undocumented immigrants:

1. The Oregon Health Plan (OHP): Undocumented immigrants who meet income requirements may qualify for Emergency Medicaid under OHP for emergency medical services only.

2. Federally Qualified Health Centers (FQHCs): These health centers provide primary care services on a sliding fee scale based on income, making them accessible to undocumented immigrants who may not have insurance.

3. Community Health Centers: These centers offer primary and preventive care services regardless of a patient’s ability to pay or immigration status.

4. Nonprofit organizations and free clinics: There are various nonprofit organizations and free clinics in Oregon that offer medical services for undocumented immigrants at no cost or low cost.

5. County health departments: Some county health departments in Oregon provide health care services to undocumented immigrants, including immunizations, family planning, and treatment for communicable diseases.

And there are clinics catering to illegals there:

Yes, there are several health care providers and clinics in Oregon that cater to undocumented immigrants. Some of these include:

1. The Virginia Garcia Memorial Health Center: This non-profit community health center has multiple locations in Oregon and serves a diverse patient population, including undocumented immigrants. They offer a range of services, including medical, dental, and mental health care.

2. La Clinica: This organization has several clinics throughout southern Oregon that provide health care services to underserved populations, including undocumented immigrants. They offer primary care, dental care, behavioral health services, and more.

3. Outside In: Based in Portland, Outside In provides health care services to homeless youth and other marginalized populations, including undocumented immigrants. They offer a wide range of services, including medical care, counseling, and substance use treatment.

 

[domer76]

Really?

Oregon officials expect to spend $1.5 billion in combined state and federal taxpayer dollars on a program that offers health benefits to illegal aliens from 2025 to 2027. They expect to spend $717 million on Oregon State Police over the same period, the documents indicate.
(first source)

Oregon will spend more in its current budget period on free health care for immigrants regardless of legal status than on state police by $500 million or more, according to state officials and budget documents.
(second source)

In 2021, lawmakers took a step further, passing, on a party-line vote, House Bill 3352, which made Oregon the first state to offer free health care to all undocumented immigrants.

The cost of that commitment has, in just four years, risen to $1.5 billion for the 2025–27 biennium. For perspective, that’s about the same cost as the Oregon State Police and the Oregon Department of Forestry, combined. And if the Senate ratifies Trump’s bill, the state could see a loss of federal funds of more than three times that amount.
(third source)

The articles say EXACTLY what I claimed. It is you that either didn't read them or ignored the contents if you did.

Nope. The truth is the funds pay for health care of ”immigrants regardless of legal status”. You do know the difference between paying for ONLY illegal immigrants versus ALL immigrants, don’t you? It looks like you don’t, Jethro.

Obviously, it’s you who didn’t read, didn’t comprehend or ignored the contents.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Nope. The truth is the funds pay for health care of ”immigrants regardless of legal status”. You do know the difference between paying for ONLY illegal immigrants versus ALL immigrants, don’t you? It looks like you don’t, Jethro.

Obviously, it’s you who didn’t read, didn’t comprehend or ignored the contents.

You are making a fallacy fallacy in that I never made the argument you are claiming above. I stated that Oregon is giving all illegal aliens health insurance / care and implied in that that they could, if they wanted, get it. You then posted a source that confirmed that, indeed, is the case. All illegals have the opportunity in Oregon to get health insurance coverage if they want to take it.

Your above argument is irrelevant and one I never made. I don't care, in this case, if legal immigrants can get coverage. I'm only addressing that illegal aliens can.

 

[domer76]

You are making a fallacy fallacy in that I never made the argument you are claiming above. I stated that Oregon is giving all illegal aliens health insurance / care and implied in that that they could, if they wanted, get it. You then posted a source that confirmed that, indeed, is the case. All illegals have the opportunity in Oregon to get health insurance coverage if they want to take it.

Your above argument is irrelevant and one I never made. I don't care, in this case, if legal immigrants can get coverage. I'm only addressing that illegal aliens can.

This is YOUR thread title, Rufus.

“Oregon spending more on illegal healthcare than state police”

What you and your fucking headlines are trying to imply is that the ENTIRE budget is spent on illegals. You didn’t even imply it. You said it outright in your first post.

You’re either a fucking liar or functionally illiterate. Or both.

 

[Hawkeye10]

This is YOUR thread title, Rufus.

“Oregon spending more on illegal healthcare than state police”

What you and your fucking headlines are trying to imply is that the ENTIRE budget is spent on illegals. You didn’t even imply it. You said it outright in your first post.

You’re either a fucking liar or functionally illiterate. Or both.

TILT.

 

[domer76]

Can you or the Daily Caller offer any proof that the Healthier Oregon Program covers strictly illegal immigrants? To MAGA, all immigrants are illegal

It doesn’t. Gardner lied

 

[Hawkeye10]

It doesn’t. Gardner lied

You are detached from reality.

A common problem this deeply into this dark age.

 

[EdwinA]

Yep, the radical Leftist government of Oregon is spending more on illegals to give them healthcare than on state cops. They have their priorities as screwed up as their politics.

Oregon Now Spends More On Free Health Care For Illegal Immigrants Than State Police

Oregon will spend more in its current budget period on free health care for immigrants regardless of legal status than on state police by $500 million or more.

dailycaller.com

Oregon Now Spends More On Program Offering Free Health Care For Illegal Immigrants Than State Police

Oregon will spend more in its current budget period on free health care for immigrants regardless of legal status than

ijr.com

Undocumented Health Care — Oregon Journalism Project

www.oregonjournalismproject.org

Note, that some of the $1.5 billion going to give illegals healthcare is coming out of federal money meaning you are in part financing this obamanation.

Most states are, which is why the crackdown in the first place. Even Texas was guilty of no strings attached food stamps and Federal aid distributions.

The crack down is a good thing; it leaves a lot more funds for the truly needy and American citizens. Of course, that is also why the faggots and commies hate it.

 

[domer76]

You are detached from reality.

A common problem this deeply into this dark age.

Try to read the fucking articles, Festus. Your butt buddy lied and I called him on it.

 

[EdwinA]

If

So, up to 120,000+ illegals in Oregon could be receiving health insurance / care benefits from the state with the federal government picking up 25 to 30% of the tab.

PRobably more than that; it's free money to them, and they use it to influence votes for the Democratic party.

Zen said some idiot bullshit.

 

[EdwinA]

Your right-wing biased bullshit sources have zero credibility.

^^^Says some deranged faggot with less than zero credibility.

 

[RB 60]

If true, that is their right.

They have no right to steal from taxpayers. They flood emergency rooms with a simple cold, denying the more seriously injured quick care.

Arrest and deport. It's the law.

 

[Hawkeye10]

They have no right to steal from taxpayers. They flood emergency rooms with a simple cold, denying the more seriously injured quick care.

Arrest and deport. It's the law.

The Constitution is over.

 

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