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Althea said:
No. The IRS reviewed myriad bogus non profit Right Wing political pacs after C.U was passed.
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Lois Lerner laid the blame on some low level IRS workers in Ohio. Remarkably[lol], the DOJ under Obama took that conclusion and ran with it.

Maybe the DOJ under Trump can review it.
 
Darth Omar said:
Lois Lerner laid the blame on some low level IRS workers in Ohio. Remarkably[lol], the DOJ under Obama took that conclusion and ran with it.

Maybe the DOJ under Trump can review it.
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I'm confident that orgs with the moniker 'Tea Party_____________' are politically affiliated organizations that don't qualify for the C class tax exemptions they were hoping to achieve. Nobody stopped them from conducting their political business. They just didn't qualify for tax exempt status. Or....it made sense to examine their work product, and see what 'common good' they were promoting.
 
The mod with no name said:
everything i have seen so far backs it up. Why are you acting like nothing happened? The info about the FISA request is already out there. The DoJ tapped trump tower. Did Obama himself walk in and bug the lines? No. Did he know something about it? Well he has plausible deniability but I wouldn't put it past him
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Why wouldn't there be FISA requests for Russian operatives in the election process?

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/15/us/politics/paul-manafort-ukraine-donald-trump.html

KIEV, Ukraine — On a leafy side street off Independence Square in Kiev is an office used for years by Donald J. Trump’s campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, when he consulted for Ukraine’s ruling political party. His furniture and personal items were still there as recently as May.
And Mr. Manafort’s presence remains elsewhere here in the capital, where government investigators examining secret records have found his name, as well as companies he sought business with, as they try to untangle a corrupt network they say was used to loot Ukrainian assets and influence elections during the administration of Mr. Manafort’s main client, former President Viktor F. Yanukovych.
 
Althea said:
I'm confident that orgs with the moniker 'Tea Party_____________' are politically affiliated organizations that don't qualify for the C class tax exemptions they were hoping to achieve. Nobody stopped them from conducting their political business. They just didn't qualify for tax exempt status. Or....it made sense to examine their work product, and see what 'common good' they were promoting.
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it wasn't just "tea party"it was "conservative sounding names" -and it didn't include lib groups.
It was abuse of power -and it took a long time for these groups to clear their name
 
anatta said:
it wasn't just "tea party"it was "conservative sounding names" -and it didn't include lib groups.
It was abuse of power -and it took a long time for these groups to clear their name
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Didn't Lois Lerner hide behind the 5th over this?

I'm thinking Trump's Tweets were intended to open several cans of worms.
 
Althea said:
Why wouldn't there be FISA requests for Russian operatives in the election process?

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/15/us/politics/paul-manafort-ukraine-donald-trump.html

KIEV, Ukraine — On a leafy side street off Independence Square in Kiev is an office used for years by Donald J. Trump’s campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, when he consulted for Ukraine’s ruling political party. His furniture and personal items were still there as recently as May.
And Mr. Manafort’s presence remains elsewhere here in the capital, where government investigators examining secret records have found his name, as well as companies he sought business with, as they try to untangle a corrupt network they say was used to loot Ukrainian assets and influence elections during the administration of Mr. Manafort’s main client, former President Viktor F. Yanukovych.
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They've been sniffing around the Russians for months now. If there's something to it, bring forth the indictment or move on.

It's nothing more than a distraction intended to knock Trump off his agenda and delegitimize his administration.
 
Darth Omar said:
Didn't Lois Lerner hide behind the 5th over this?

I'm thinking Trump's Tweets were intended to open several cans of worms.
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she did.
The problem is Trump doesn't have any alliances in DC's Swamp politics -he barely has a staff.

So the press and the Dem's and the IC are in an unholy defacto alliance -damn the torpedoes -bring down Trump
 
anatta said:
do you know the working of the Deep State?
Many are willing to believe anything damning about Russian collusion -but when it comes to Obamatrons..oh no.

Recall the Obamatrons "seeded" the IC with low level Russian data to generate "Russian reports"
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LMFAO@anatta
Do you have any idea how retarded you are?
 
Thing1 said:
You need to get a grip. No one can say definitively that Obama was not involved at this point. But for christ's sake - for a sitting President to go off half-cocked & go on a twitter rant without any evidence...and to not just suggest that Obama was involved, or speculate on it. To actually say he did it.

You guys have completely lost perspective. Enough of "oh, that's just so Trump." It's completely reckless. He's a conspiracy guy.
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You just posted in all caps that this is a false claim and called me a hack for questioning how you know that.

You're insane.
 
Yaya said:
You just posted in all caps that this is a false claim and called me a hack for questioning how you know that.

You're insane.
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Thing allowed himself to get sucked into the 'no evidence' meme that's touted by the media. Notice that practically all of the outlets say the same thing.

The fact is there is evidence Trump tower was tapped.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
Now we find that in December the WSJ reported Obama did the same thing to Netanyahu....
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"This pattern — whereby political officials who are vehement supporters of the Surveillance State transform overnight into crusading privacy advocates once they learn that they themselves have been spied on — is one that has repeated itself over and over. It has been seen many times as part of the Snowden revelations, but also well before that.

In 2005, the New York Times revealed that the Bush administration ordered the NSA to spy on the telephone calls of Americans without the warrants required by law, and the paper ultimately won the Pulitzer Prize for doing so. The politician who did more than anyone to suffocate that scandal and ensure there were no consequences was then-Congresswoman Jane Harman, the ranking Democratic member on the House Intelligence Committee.

In the wake of that NSA scandal, Harman went on every TV show she could find and categorically defended Bush’s warrantless NSA program as “both legal and necessary,” as well as “essential to U.S. national security.” Worse, she railed against the “despicable” whistleblower (Thomas Tamm) who disclosed this crime and even suggested that the newspaper that reported it should have been criminally investigated...
 
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