Oral history is generally reliable within a three-generation callback time period

I always wondered what happened to the people that lived together in an old multi-colored school bus taking acid and smoking pot while vibin' on Jesus. LOL
some of them america's great geniuses.

Ken Elton Kesey (/ˈkiːziː/; September 17, 1935 – November 10, 2001) was an American novelist, essayist and countercultural figure. He considered himself a link between the Beat Generation of the 1950s and the hippies of the 1960s.

Kesey was born in La Junta, Colorado, and grew up in Springfield, Oregon, graduating from the University of Oregon in 1957. He began writing One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest in 1960 after completing a graduate fellowship in creative writing at Stanford University; the novel was an immediate commercial and critical success when published two years later. During this period, Kesey was used by the CIA without his knowledge in the Project MKULTRA involving hallucinogenic drugs (including mescaline and LSD), which was done to try to make people insane to put them under the control of interrogators.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kesey#cite_note-4"><span>[</span>4<span>]</span></a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kesey#cite_note-5"><span>[</span>5<span>]</span></a>

After One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest was published, Kesey moved to nearby La Honda, California, and began hosting "happenings" with former colleagues from Stanford, bohemian and literary figures including Neal Cassady and other friends, who became collectively known as the Merry Pranksters. As documented in Tom Wolfe's 1968 New Journalism book The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test, some of the parties were promoted to the public as Acid Tests, and integrated the consumption of LSD with multimedia performances. He mentored the Grateful Dead, who were the Acid Tests' house band, and continued to exert a profound influence upon the group throughout their career.

Kesey's second novel, Sometimes a Great Notion, was a commercial success that polarized some critics and readers upon its release in 1964. An epic account of the vicissitudes of an Oregon logging family that aspired to the modernist grandeur of William Faulkner's Yoknapatawpha saga, Kesey regarded it as his magnum opus.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kesey#cite_note-6"><span>[</span>6<span>]</span></a>

In 1965, after being arrested for marijuana possession and faking suicide, Kesey was imprisoned for five months. Shortly thereafter, he returned home to the Willamette Valley and settled in Pleasant Hill, Oregon, where he maintained a secluded, family-oriented lifestyle for the rest of his life. In addition to teaching at the University of Oregon—an experience that culminated in Caverns (1989), a collaborative novel by Kesey and his graduate workshop students under the pseudonym "O.U. Levon"—he continued to regularly contribute fiction and reportage to such publications as Esquire, Rolling Stone, Oui, Running, and The Whole Earth Catalog; various iterations of these pieces were collected in Kesey's Garage Sale (1973) and Demon Box (1986).

Between 1974 and 1980, Kesey published six issues of Spit in the Ocean, a literary magazine that featured excerpts from an unfinished novel (Seven Prayers by Grandma Whittier, an account of Kesey's grandmother's struggle with Alzheimer's disease) and contributions from writers including Margo St. James, Kate Millett, Stewart Brand, Saul-Paul Sirag, Jack Sarfatti, Paul Krassner and William S. Burroughs.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kesey#cite_note-7"><span>[</span>7<span>]</span></a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kesey#cite_note-8"><span>[</span>8<span>]</span></a> After a third novel (Sailor Song) was released to lukewarm reviews in 1992, he reunited with the Merry Pranksters and began publishing works on the Internet until ill health (including a stroke) curtailed his activities.

Biography​

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Early life​

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Kesey was born in 1935 in La Junta, Colorado, to dairy farmers Geneva (née Smith) and Frederick A. Kesey.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kesey#cite_note-NYTobit-1"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a> When Kesey was 10 years old, the family moved to Springfield, Oregon in 1946.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kesey#cite_note-oregonianobit-2"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a> Kesey was a champion wrestler in high school and college in the 174-pound (79 kg) weight division. During high school, Kesey almost qualified to be on the Olympic team; however, a serious shoulder injury halted his wrestling career. He graduated from Springfield High School in 1953.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kesey#cite_note-oregonianobit-2"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a> An avid reader and filmgoer, the young Kesey took John Wayne, Edgar Rice Burroughs, and Zane Grey as his role models (later naming a son Zane) and toyed with magic, ventriloquism and hypnotism.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kesey#cite_note-9"><span>[</span>9<span>]</span></a>

While attending the University of Oregon School of Journalism and Communication in neighboring Eugene in 1956, Kesey eloped with his high-school sweetheart, Oregon State College student Norma "Faye" Haxby, whom he had met in seventh grade.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kesey#cite_note-oregonianobit-2"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a> According to Kesey, "Without Faye, I would have been swept overboard by notoriety and weird, dope-fueled ideas and flower-child girls with beamy eyes and bulbous breasts."<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kesey#cite_note-esquire-10"><span>[</span>10<span>]</span></a> Married until his death, they had three children: Jed, Zane and Shannon.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kesey#cite_note-11"><span>[</span>11<span>]</span></a> Additionally, with Faye's approval, Kesey fathered a daughter, Sunshine Kesey, with fellow Merry Prankster Carolyn "Mountain Girl" Adams. Born in 1966, Sunshine was raised by Adams and her stepfather, Jerry Garcia.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kesey#cite_note-intrepmemorial-12"><span>[</span>12<span>]</span></a>
 
you;re an evil idiot.
I'm not angry that you believe in subjective morality, and that your concept of morality revolves around self-interest.

I don't see why you should be angry that I strive to believe in an objective morality based on absolute right and wrong.
reciprocity is christ's teaching.
No, the lesson of the gospel is that you should live your life a certain way regardless of whether you're going to be paid back or returned the favor.

The Samaritan was not expecting reciprocity from the victim of highway brigands. The man was a complete stranger to the Samaritan, he would have even considered the Samaritan an enemy.

There is no evolutionary scientific benefit to risking your resources and maybe your life, to help a complete stranger, or even an adversary, you will never see again.
 
I'm not angry that you believe in subjective morality, and that your concept of morality revolves around self-interest.

I don't see why you should be angry that I strive to believe in an objective morality based on absolute right and wrong.

No, the lesson of the gospel is that you should live your life a certain way regardless of whether you're going to be paid back or returned the favor.

The Samaritan was not expecting reciprocity from the victim of highway brigands. The man was a complete stranger to the Samaritan, he would have even considered the Samaritan an enemy.

There is no evolutionary scientific benefit to risking your resources and maybe your life, to help a complete stranger, or even an adversary, you will never see again.
Asshat missed Sunday school.
 
I'm not angry that you believe in subjective morality, and that your concept of morality revolves around self-interest.

I don't see why you should be angry that I strive to believe in an objective morality based on absolute right and wrong.

No, the lesson of the gospel is that you should live your life a certain way regardless of whether you're going to be paid back or returned the favor.

The Samaritan was not expecting reciprocity from the victim of highway brigands. The man was a complete stranger to the Samaritan, he would have even considered the Samaritan an enemy.

There is no evolutionary scientific benefit to risking your resources and maybe your life, to help a complete stranger, or even an adversary, you will never see again.
christs teaching is not subjective morality.

it's true morality.

you want everthing to be an appeal to autority fallacy, because you're a totalitarian who worships satan.
 
Asshat missed Sunday school.
Romans

8The only debt that you should have is to love each other. Anyone who loves other people has obeyed God's Law completely.

9 The rules in God's Law say this: ‘Do not have sex with anyone who is not your own wife or your own husband. Do not kill anyone. Do not rob anyone. Do not want things that belong to other people.’ All these rules, and all the other rules in God's Law, are all included in one rule. That one rule is: ‘Love other people as much as you love yourself.’ 10 If you love other people, you will never do anything bad to them. So anyone who loves other people has obeyed God's Law completely.
 
some of them america's great geniuses.

Ken Elton Kesey (/ˈkiːziː/; September 17, 1935 – November 10, 2001) was an American novelist, essayist and countercultural figure. He considered himself a link between the Beat Generation of the 1950s and the hippies of the 1960s.

Kesey was born in La Junta, Colorado, and grew up in Springfield, Oregon, graduating from the University of Oregon in 1957. He began writing One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest in 1960 after completing a graduate fellowship in creative writing at Stanford University; the novel was an immediate commercial and critical success when published two years later. During this period, Kesey was used by the CIA without his knowledge in the Project MKULTRA involving hallucinogenic drugs (including mescaline and LSD), which was done to try to make people insane to put them under the control of interrogators.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kesey#cite_note-4"><span>[</span>4<span>]</span></a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kesey#cite_note-5"><span>[</span>5<span>]</span></a>

After One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest was published, Kesey moved to nearby La Honda, California, and began hosting "happenings" with former colleagues from Stanford, bohemian and literary figures including Neal Cassady and other friends, who became collectively known as the Merry Pranksters. As documented in Tom Wolfe's 1968 New Journalism book The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test, some of the parties were promoted to the public as Acid Tests, and integrated the consumption of LSD with multimedia performances. He mentored the Grateful Dead, who were the Acid Tests' house band, and continued to exert a profound influence upon the group throughout their career.

Kesey's second novel, Sometimes a Great Notion, was a commercial success that polarized some critics and readers upon its release in 1964. An epic account of the vicissitudes of an Oregon logging family that aspired to the modernist grandeur of William Faulkner's Yoknapatawpha saga, Kesey regarded it as his magnum opus.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kesey#cite_note-6"><span>[</span>6<span>]</span></a>

In 1965, after being arrested for marijuana possession and faking suicide, Kesey was imprisoned for five months. Shortly thereafter, he returned home to the Willamette Valley and settled in Pleasant Hill, Oregon, where he maintained a secluded, family-oriented lifestyle for the rest of his life. In addition to teaching at the University of Oregon—an experience that culminated in Caverns (1989), a collaborative novel by Kesey and his graduate workshop students under the pseudonym "O.U. Levon"—he continued to regularly contribute fiction and reportage to such publications as Esquire, Rolling Stone, Oui, Running, and The Whole Earth Catalog; various iterations of these pieces were collected in Kesey's Garage Sale (1973) and Demon Box (1986).

Between 1974 and 1980, Kesey published six issues of Spit in the Ocean, a literary magazine that featured excerpts from an unfinished novel (Seven Prayers by Grandma Whittier, an account of Kesey's grandmother's struggle with Alzheimer's disease) and contributions from writers including Margo St. James, Kate Millett, Stewart Brand, Saul-Paul Sirag, Jack Sarfatti, Paul Krassner and William S. Burroughs.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kesey#cite_note-7"><span>[</span>7<span>]</span></a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kesey#cite_note-8"><span>[</span>8<span>]</span></a> After a third novel (Sailor Song) was released to lukewarm reviews in 1992, he reunited with the Merry Pranksters and began publishing works on the Internet until ill health (including a stroke) curtailed his activities.

Biography​

[edit]

Early life​

[edit]
Kesey was born in 1935 in La Junta, Colorado, to dairy farmers Geneva (née Smith) and Frederick A. Kesey.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kesey#cite_note-NYTobit-1"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a> When Kesey was 10 years old, the family moved to Springfield, Oregon in 1946.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kesey#cite_note-oregonianobit-2"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a> Kesey was a champion wrestler in high school and college in the 174-pound (79 kg) weight division. During high school, Kesey almost qualified to be on the Olympic team; however, a serious shoulder injury halted his wrestling career. He graduated from Springfield High School in 1953.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kesey#cite_note-oregonianobit-2"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a> An avid reader and filmgoer, the young Kesey took John Wayne, Edgar Rice Burroughs, and Zane Grey as his role models (later naming a son Zane) and toyed with magic, ventriloquism and hypnotism.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kesey#cite_note-9"><span>[</span>9<span>]</span></a>

While attending the University of Oregon School of Journalism and Communication in neighboring Eugene in 1956, Kesey eloped with his high-school sweetheart, Oregon State College student Norma "Faye" Haxby, whom he had met in seventh grade.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kesey#cite_note-oregonianobit-2"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a> According to Kesey, "Without Faye, I would have been swept overboard by notoriety and weird, dope-fueled ideas and flower-child girls with beamy eyes and bulbous breasts."<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kesey#cite_note-esquire-10"><span>[</span>10<span>]</span></a> Married until his death, they had three children: Jed, Zane and Shannon.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kesey#cite_note-11"><span>[</span>11<span>]</span></a> Additionally, with Faye's approval, Kesey fathered a daughter, Sunshine Kesey, with fellow Merry Prankster Carolyn "Mountain Girl" Adams. Born in 1966, Sunshine was raised by Adams and her stepfather, Jerry Garcia.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Kesey#cite_note-intrepmemorial-12"><span>[</span>12<span>]</span></a>
Some took one too many hits of acid.
 
Romans

8The only debt that you should have is to love each other. Anyone who loves other people has obeyed God's Law completely.

9 The rules in God's Law say this: ‘Do not have sex with anyone who is not your own wife or your own husband. Do not kill anyone. Do not rob anyone. Do not want things that belong to other people.’ All these rules, and all the other rules in God's Law, are all included in one rule. That one rule is: ‘Love other people as much as you love yourself.’ 10 If you love other people, you will never do anything bad to them. So anyone who loves other people has obeyed God's Law completely.
I can copy and paste, too!
 
I believe people are seeing unidentified aerial phenomena.

I just don't think the best explanation is that they are observing intergalactic spaceships piloted by aliens.
Agreed. Remember all the hoopla over drones? It was a huge nothing burger.

The JFK conspiracy theories? Another nothing burger.

The Pedo Island files? Once cleansed of Trump's names and all of the Republicans, another nothing burger. LOL
 
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but not him.

he;s an american genius.

you should quit painting with a broad brush like an imbecile.
absolutely, I'm not dumping on anyone who did acid and smoked pot, there's actually some solid evidence it can be useful. But, like everything it's possible to go too far. I suspect there are a few of those cases hanging around this site. LOL
 
Nothing I said about what Jesus taught is remotely controversial.

Except you seem to hold Jesus' teachings in low regard. Given your inability to get past grudges and I seem to recall you found the "turn the other cheek" doctrine quite laughable.

So, what you SAY is not controversial. Just the fact that YOU say them.


This is the limit of what happens when all you ever do is "name check" and quote without understanding.

;)
 
absolutely, I'm not dumping on anyone who did acid and smoked pot, there's actually some solid evidence it can be useful. But, like everything it's possible to go too far. I suspect there are a few of those cases hanging around this site. LOL
all right.

sorry.

im overreactive.

my dad's on hospice in the house.

he thought i was in an army and was saying how much japan sucks tho he's never been there.
 
Patruus Batavus 6:11
Never take life seriously since no one ever gets out alive.
:truestory:

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this asshole will probably get better.....

he's oppositional /defiant like me.
Good luck. Patients have been known to get better and leave hospice care, but its not usually recommended unless someone has been given 6 months or less to live. I've been through it with family three times; both parents and a brother. It's very good care.
 
Good luck. Patients have been known to get better and leave hospice care, but its not usually recommended unless someone has been given 6 months or less to live. I've been through it with family three times; both parents and a brother. It's very good care.
it's these times when i consult my buddhist half most, i.e "life is suffering, what did you expect."


they didn't give a time period.

he is a fighter. he's half demented and sleeps a lot.

his body is so weak.

i think its vaccine injury but i can't say that because everyone is so inside the matrix.
 
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