One thing that was exposed in Mueller's testimony yesterday

A long time. When Adlai Stevenson, running against Eisenhower in 1952, was approached by Kremlin agents wanting to know what they could do to help his campaign, he told them to get lost and informed the authorities.

Now, not so much. Anything to make America great again eh?

Really? What Kremlin agents approached the candidates in 2016? I am all eyes.
 
It's not about voting. It's about foreign govts. interfering in our elections via various means. Russian citizens did not vote in 2016 nor (as far as I've heard) did any of them attempt to. They did, however, hack into our computer systems to obtain personal information and information damaging to non-Trump candidates. I imagine that China doesn't think much of Trump because of the tariffs. Would you be okay with China hacking into our systems in 2020 to help out whoever the (D) candidate is?

Non citizens voting is interference from foreign countries.
 
The part you are missing, or probably just can't accept the fact, is that this is the first time it is documented as being successful, and the party that benefited will not acknowledge it, but also don't want to do anything to make sure it isn't successful in the future

What was documented as successful? Not one vote was changed or hacked.
 
It's not about voting. It's about foreign govts. interfering in our elections via various means. Russian citizens did not vote in 2016 nor (as far as I've heard) did any of them attempt to. They did, however, hack into our computer systems to obtain personal information and information damaging to non-Trump candidates. I imagine that China doesn't think much of Trump because of the tariffs. Would you be okay with China hacking into our systems in 2020 to help out whoever the (D) candidate is?

Hillary didn't lose because of the DNC scandal that was given cover by the Russia Hoax. Try again?
 
Trying, a long time, both Stevenson and Humphrey both reported Russian attempts to aid them in their elections efforts, but now we know that they successfully did interfere, and not only did they get away with it but the party and individual they helped won't acknowledge such nor do anything about it

Trump has given us a new normal, everyone and anyone is invited in

No votes were affected. Russian troll farms bought time on FB favoring both Trump AND Hillbag. That's about it.
 
What kind of drugs are you on today? There is zero proof of that at all. As a matter of fact that has been debunked time and time again.

Really? Then it should be easy for you to show us when it was successful previous to the last election

If you are saying that is "zero proof" that it happened in 2016, that is the absurdity, you didn't think all those exposed Emails Hannity showed umpteen times going into the election had no effect on the hate Hillary crowd did you? Or that Manaford exchanging campaign data with Russians on Midwest swing States was just a coincidence? Or that Junior and the campaign heads willing and eager to meet with Russians to get info they felt would help their election efforts was common among past Presidential campaigns? Etc, etc, etc

Fact remains, foreign entities have learned they can now interfere in our elections, and that probably the party that benefits from their influence will don't do anything about it. As I said, the new normal, thanks to the GOP and Trump
 
This thread is about Russian interference in our elections. Is it so hard to stay on topic?

Same thing. Why whine about Russia troll farms having zero effect on our election outcome,
yet ignore other foreigners that Dems want in here to actually vote in order to sway an election???
 
Really? Then it should be easy for you to show us when it was successful previous to the last election

If you are saying that is "zero proof" that it happened in 2016, that is the absurdity, you didn't think all those exposed Emails Hannity showed umpteen times going into the election had no effect on the hate Hillary crowd did you? Or that Manaford exchanging campaign data with Russians on Midwest swing States was just a coincidence? Or that Junior and the campaign heads willing and eager to meet with Russians to get info they felt would help their election efforts was common among past Presidential campaigns? Etc, etc, etc

Fact remains, foreign entities have learned they can now interfere in our elections, and that probably the party that benefits from their influence will don't do anything about it. As I said, the new normal, thanks to the GOP and Trump

Where did you get that from? Can you even read? There has NEVER been an election that was changed in this country due to Russian meddling, including 2016 no matter how much you want to wish it did. You really need to get off twitter and facebook for your news. If you had any intellect is gone.
 
No votes were affected. Russian troll farms bought time on FB favoring both Trump AND Hillbag. That's about it.

You can't prove that, and besides, that is not the point, Russia did interfere, we know now that they interfered, and not only have we done nothing about it we also haven't even taken steps to make sure it doesn't happen again.

The next election is open, why wouldn't any foreign entity get involved, they know now they won't be held accountable for their interference, and the party they helped will probably refuse to acknowledge they were even involved, new normal, thanks to Trump, the very thing the Founding Fathers warned us against
 
Same thing. Why whine about Russia troll farms having zero effect on our election outcome,
yet ignore other foreigners that Dems want in here to actually vote in order to sway an election???

"zero effect on our election outcome," How do you know that???? Do you have a crystal ball????
 
Two attempted "whataboutisms"

BULLSHIT; those weren't whataboutisms. Democrats are completely against voter ID laws you dishonest hack. Obama was President when the Russia hoax occurred.

to deflect the truth,

Deflect the truth? So Democrats are FOR voter ID laws and the Russia hoax did not occur on Obama's watch? You're not merely dishonest, but a DUMB partisan hack.

but the facts remain, it ain't the Democrats nor Obama who have denied the documented episodes of Russian interference, and now it isn't the Democrats who don't seem all that concerned that it is happening again.

FACT: Democrats do not want voter ID laws to protect the integrity of the vote. FACT: The Russian interference occurred under Obama's watch and he even stated that Trump was absurd for suggesting our elections could be rigged.

Your bullshit is nothing more than CNN sound bites. You're a dishonest hack.

As I said, foreign nations not only know now that they can get away with but also that that party that benefits probably won't even acknowledge that it happened, the new normal in Trump's "greater America"

Yes, we heard that bullshit the first time and it doesn't sound any less stupid the second time arsecheese. You run around bloviating hyperbole; I gave you the facts. Quite making yourself look stupid and pathetic.
 
You can't prove that, and besides, that is not the point, Russia did interfere, we know now that they interfered, and not only have we done nothing about it we also haven't even taken steps to make sure it doesn't happen again.

The next election is open, why wouldn't any foreign entity get involved, they know now they won't be held accountable for their interference, and the party they helped will probably refuse to acknowledge they were even involved, new normal, thanks to Trump, the very thing the Founding Fathers warned us against

The NSA, FBI and FUCKING OBAMA have confirmed that. Give it up. You Democrats lost again and just cost taxpayers more money with your bullshit. And of course surely cost you the election in 2020.
 
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