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Guille said:
It implies nothing you worthless ignorant little sheep fucker. Someone brought up Carthage and said it couldn't have an empire because it was limited. I brought up the UK. That is all. Now go drink some more mead and find a ewe.
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i didnt say it wasnt an empire. I said could it qualify as an african one if only a tiny part of it is african. Britain was a global empire. HRE and France were european ones.
 
tsuke said:
Aside from bill clinton being a rapist i dont really have a dog in this fight. I just find it weird that democrats are ok with using force to crush this particular set of armed pedophiles but are not ok with using force to crush another set of armed pedophiles called muslims.
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Crush 23% of the world's population spread all over the world?

Sure, that will take a few weeks longer than Waco
 
tsuke said:
i didnt say it wasnt an empire. I said could it qualify as an african one if only a tiny part of it is african. Britain was a global empire. HRE and France were european ones.
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No, you fucking retard.

France was very much a global empire. If by HRE you mean the Vatican then you are even more incorrect. If you meant Rome, you couldn't be more incorrect.

Where the fuck do you come up with this bullshit?
 
Rune said:
No, you fucking retard.

France was very much a global empire. If by HRE you mean the Vatican then you are even more incorrect.

Where the fuck do you come up with this bullshit?
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France was not a global empire you dumb sack of shit. Spain maybe...England definitely. France...no.
 
Guille said:
France was not a global empire you dumb sack of shit. Spain maybe...England definitely. France...no.
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Damn you are a stupid fuck.
France owned so much of Canada that they still speak French there.
France owned fully one third of what became the US,

here, read it and weep, or just STFU;

The French colonial empire constituted the overseas colonies, protectorates and mandate territories that came under French rule from the 16th century onward. A distinction is generally made between the "first colonial empire", that existed until 1814, by which time most of it had been lost, and the "second colonial empire", which began with the conquest of Algiers in 1830. The second empire came to an end after the loss of bitter wars in Vietnam (1955) and Algeria (1962), and peaceful decolonization elsewhere after 1960.
Competing with Spain, Portugal, the United Provinces, and later Britain, France began to establish colonies in North America, the Caribbean, and India in the 17th century. A series of wars with Great Britain and other European major powers during the 18th century and early 19th century resulted in France losing nearly all of its conquests. France rebuilt a new empire mostly after 1850, concentrating chiefly in Africa, as well as Indochina and the South Pacific. Republicans, at first hostile to empire, only became supportive when Germany started to build her own colonial empire. As it developed the new empire took on roles of trade with France, especially supplying raw materials and purchasing manufactured items, as well as lending prestige to the motherland and spreading French civilization and language, and the Catholic religion. It also provided manpower in the World Wars.[SUP][5][/SUP]
It became a moral mission to lift the world up to French standards by bringing Christianity and French culture. In 1884 the leading proponent of colonialism, Jules Ferry declared; "The higher races have a right over the lower races, they have a duty to civilize the inferior races." Full citizenship rights – assimilation – were offered, although in reality "assimilation was always receding [and] the colonial populations treated like subjects not citizens."[SUP][6][/SUP] France sent small numbers of settlers to its empire, contrary to Great Britain, and previously Spain and Portugal, with the only notable exception of Algeria, where the French settlers nonetheless always remained a small minority.
At its apex, it was one of the largest empires in history. Including metropolitan France, the total amount of land under French sovereignty reached 11,500,000 km[SUP]2[/SUP] (4,400,000 sq mi) in 1920, with a population of 110 million people in 1939. In World War II, Charles de Gaulle and the Free French used the overseas colonies as bases from which they fought to liberate France. Historian Tony Chafer argues: "In an effort to restore its world-power status after the humiliation of defeat and occupation, France was eager to maintain its overseas empire at the end of the Second World War."[SUP][7][/SUP]However, after 1945 anti-colonial movements began to challenge European authority. The French constitution of October 27, 1946 (Fourth Republic), established the French Union which endured until 1958. Newer remnants of the colonial empire were integrated into France as overseas departments and territories within the French Republic. These now total altogether 119,394 km² (46,098 sq. miles), which amounts to only 1% of the pre-1939 French colonial empire's area, with 2.7 million people living in them in 2013. By the 1970s, says Robert Aldrich, the last "vestiges of empire held little interest for the French." He argues, "Except for the traumatic decolonization of Algeria, however, what is remarkable is how few long-lasting effects on France the giving up of empire entailed."[SUP][8]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_colonial_empire[/SUP]
 
Rune said:
Damn you are a stupid fuck.
France owned so much of Canada that they still speak French there.
France owned fully one third of what became the US,

here, read it and weep, or just STFU;

The French colonial empire constituted the overseas colonies, protectorates and mandate territories that came under French rule from the 16th century onward. A distinction is generally made between the "first colonial empire", that existed until 1814, by which time most of it had been lost, and the "second colonial empire", which began with the conquest of Algiers in 1830. The second empire came to an end after the loss of bitter wars in Vietnam (1955) and Algeria (1962), and peaceful decolonization elsewhere after 1960.
Competing with Spain, Portugal, the United Provinces, and later Britain, France began to establish colonies in North America, the Caribbean, and India in the 17th century. A series of wars with Great Britain and other European major powers during the 18th century and early 19th century resulted in France losing nearly all of its conquests. France rebuilt a new empire mostly after 1850, concentrating chiefly in Africa, as well as Indochina and the South Pacific. Republicans, at first hostile to empire, only became supportive when Germany started to build her own colonial empire. As it developed the new empire took on roles of trade with France, especially supplying raw materials and purchasing manufactured items, as well as lending prestige to the motherland and spreading French civilization and language, and the Catholic religion. It also provided manpower in the World Wars.[SUP][5][/SUP]
It became a moral mission to lift the world up to French standards by bringing Christianity and French culture. In 1884 the leading proponent of colonialism, Jules Ferry declared; "The higher races have a right over the lower races, they have a duty to civilize the inferior races." Full citizenship rights – assimilation – were offered, although in reality "assimilation was always receding [and] the colonial populations treated like subjects not citizens."[SUP][6][/SUP] France sent small numbers of settlers to its empire, contrary to Great Britain, and previously Spain and Portugal, with the only notable exception of Algeria, where the French settlers nonetheless always remained a small minority.
At its apex, it was one of the largest empires in history. Including metropolitan France, the total amount of land under French sovereignty reached 11,500,000 km[SUP]2[/SUP] (4,400,000 sq mi) in 1920, with a population of 110 million people in 1939. In World War II, Charles de Gaulle and the Free French used the overseas colonies as bases from which they fought to liberate France. Historian Tony Chafer argues: "In an effort to restore its world-power status after the humiliation of defeat and occupation, France was eager to maintain its overseas empire at the end of the Second World War."[SUP][7][/SUP]However, after 1945 anti-colonial movements began to challenge European authority. The French constitution of October 27, 1946 (Fourth Republic), established the French Union which endured until 1958. Newer remnants of the colonial empire were integrated into France as overseas departments and territories within the French Republic. These now total altogether 119,394 km² (46,098 sq. miles), which amounts to only 1% of the pre-1939 French colonial empire's area, with 2.7 million people living in them in 2013. By the 1970s, says Robert Aldrich, the last "vestiges of empire held little interest for the French." He argues, "Except for the traumatic decolonization of Algeria, however, what is remarkable is how few long-lasting effects on France the giving up of empire entailed."[SUP][8]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_colonial_empire[/SUP]
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France owned so much of Canada that they lost control of all of it. During the Revolution France didn't send their main force to what is today Canada, they sent it to New York / New Jersey.

Rune, you're a dumbfuck.
 
Guille said:
France owned so much of Canada that they lost control of all of it. During the Revolution France didn't send their main force to what is today Canada, they sent it to New York / New Jersey.

Rune, you're a dumbfuck.
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By that standard GB wasn't a global power either.

You are about one more lie away from ignore.
 
Rune said:
By that standard GB wasn't a global power either.

You are about one more lie away from ignore.
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You're going to iggy me...again? Fuck off dumbfuck.
The difference is England actually controlled territory around the world. France didn't. Yep..you've proven yourself to be a dumbfuck yet again Rune.
 
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