Oklahoma teacher protest

where are the vast majority of American schools ?


where the kids LIVE

where is that ?


in the more populated areas huh dick brains
 
Superfreak said:
I think we need to cut down the number of administrative jobs. We have far too many superintendents positions and the staff in their offices. That money would be better suited to the teachers. The waste, in my opinion, comes largely in this form.
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I agree. I think also better school board governance, public audit practices will real teeth, reducing bureaucracy, eliminating obsolete and/or excessive operation and administrative cost that come at the cost of class room instruction. There's a gazillion reforms that can be made.
 
Superfreak said:
This is how it should be, vs. the union prescribed wages based on years in the business and how many degrees you get.
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Exactly and it moots the purpose of having a teachers union. They're professionals and not laborers. Raise the standards through increased competition for higher wages and better employment conditions.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
You're points are non-sequiturs because they aren't relevent to the question I asked you. Why not do what corporation do and offer compensation and work condition packages that will attract top talent? Isn't that what Steve Jobs did at Apple? Your "Da Unions won't allow it!" isn't relevant to my question nor is the starting pay for low skilled entry level workers. It's simply an evasion of the question I have asked you.

I mean why not? If you offer top tier employment packages don't Unions become mooted? Won't you attract better qualified, talented, knowledgeable and skilled professionals?

You're also evading my other points of addressing the root issues in how money is wasted in public education. Fact is, it's rarely wasted in class room instruction. It's the other aspects of education where money is wastes, isn't it?
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Governments hire teachers and governments shouldn't be run like a business right? Isn't that the argument we often hear?

And I'm never argued against the fact that there is tremendous beaucratic waste in education so money doesn't reach the classroom.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
I agree. I think also better school board governance, public audit practices will real teeth, reducing bureaucracy, eliminating obsolete and/or excessive operation and administrative cost that come at the cost of class room instruction. There's a gazillion reforms that can be made.
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and they all include fully funding American schools
 
cawacko said:
Governments hire teachers and governments shouldn't be run like a business right? Isn't that the argument we often hear?

And I'm never argued against the fact that there is tremendous beaucratic waste in education so money doesn't reach the classroom.
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corporations waste money too


they are just funded well enough to run and attract the best and reward the best
 
Rune said:
Entirely agree.
One school I dealt with, The Principal had clear brain damage.
I discussed it with the Superintendent who agreed but let him work anyway.
They both should have been fired.
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It is the same problem I have with the DoD... but that is for another thread. :)
 
Mott the Hoople said:
I agree. I think also better school board governance, public audit practices will real teeth, reducing bureaucracy, eliminating obsolete and/or excessive operation and administrative cost that come at the cost of class room instruction. There's a gazillion reforms that can be made.
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I agree. But we have to begin, one step at a time if necessary.
 
Superfreak said:
You really are a moronic elitist piece of shit. You also have no comprehension of cost of living.
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why are rural towns called rural?

because there is way more land than people huh?


why pay the vast majority of teachers shit because a few can live on shit in small towns
 
evince said:
why are rural towns called rural?

because there is way more land than people huh?


why pay the vast majority of teachers shit because a few can live on shit in small towns
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Thanks for again displaying your complete lack of comprehension on the topic being discussed. You elitist piece of shit.
 
teachers and schools need more money to function better


the right wing crap of "throw money at the problem" wont work anymore you bag O' dicks
 
leaningright said:
This contains so much truth that I think needs to be addressed. Where a person chooses to teach should have a bearing on what they make. Where I teach, for instance, I think we should make somewhat less than someone who teaches in an inner city Oklahoma City school. I have thought that all my career. Many do not agree but consider ... the cost of living is higher in OKC and discipline is much more of a problem. I still paddle kids for their bad behavior, for heaven’s sake ... AND ... most of my kids will then get one at home if I give them one here. It’s April and I haven’t paddled one kid all year. And that’s typical for this school. BTW, I teach grades 7-12.
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Owl mentioned it earlier, I think the average teacher salary is $74K in SF. They are having huge problems keeping and hiring teachers because of the cost of living here. Forget trying to buy a place, most can't afford to rent here. So many commute an hour or more each direction. Far from ideal.

As you mentioned people can buy homes (in certain areas of the country) with a $40K salary. Desh just doesn't understand pricing, cost of living etc. throughout the country and how it varies.
 
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