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Here's a great article about Governor Strickland, the guy who is probably going to deliver Ohio, thus the White house, to the Dems in 08.

Mr. Consensus Makes Inroads

By E. J. Dionne Jr.
Tuesday, July 24, 2007; A15



CLEVELAND -- My interview with Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland was delayed for a reason that explains why this Democrat is so popular in a state that was once considered a Republican bastion.

In the course of his travels on Saturday, Strickland discovered that a farm in a heavily Republican area near Cincinnati was celebrating its 200th anniversary as a family-run operation. The governor decided that he had to drop by and chat with some folks who probably didn't vote for him. Strickland is one Democrat who tries to leave no Republican behind.

At a moment of festering polarization in national politics, Strickland is Mr. Consensus. He doesn't hide his progressive views -- he calls himself "pro-choice, pro-labor and pro-universal health care" -- and yet just about everyone thinks of this ordained Methodist minister as a moderate because he spends a lot of time in places where Democrats don't dare venture, offering soothing sentiments you're unlikely to run into on talk radio or the Internet.

"If you act with respect toward the people who disagree with you," Strickland said over the telephone when we finally got around to talking, "they'll give you a break and won't cut you off."

Strickland's political skill only partly explains Ohio's political transformation. A state that voted narrowly for President Bush in 2000 and 2004 not only elected Strickland as governor in 2006 but also sent Sherrod Brown, an economic populist with a far-more liberal public profile, to the U.S. Senate.

The conversion rate among Ohio voters in just two years was staggering. According to exit polling, 30 percent of Ohioans who voted for Bush in 2004 voted for Strickland in 2006; 20 percent of Bush's 2004 voters supported Brown.

Why the big change? Scandals involving former governor Robert Taft and former representative Bob Ney made even loyal Republicans squeamish. Strickland won a fifth of self-identified Republicans and a quarter of conservatives, while holding on to more than 90 percent of liberals and Democrats, and roughly 70 percent of moderates and independents. If national Democrats reached such numbers in 2008, they'd win the presidency decisively.

The new economy has hit Ohio hard. Industrial cities such as Youngstown and Cleveland have suffered under the lash of globalization. Brown's tough stand against free trade appealed in a place where the loss of well-paying blue-collar jobs makes the promise of a flat, highly competitive world fall very flat indeed.

What might Democratic presidential candidates learn from Ohio? As a matter of style, Strickland suggests they must understand that "people are desperately wanting to believe that political leaders understand them and that they are trying to deal with their day-to-day lives." Memo to overly cautious candidates: Strickland also thinks that "the display of genuine emotion is important."

Substantively, Strickland says the economy matters most, although he has been a strong opponent of the Iraq war from the beginning. "The foreclosure problem is huge," Strickland says. "The people are desperate for jobs." He sees health care and education as central -- they were the key issues in his recent budget. These questions "ought to give Democrats a leg up," but only if they can "talk about these things in a way that gets people to believe you will do something about them."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/23/AR2007072301361_pf.html
 
Political junkies like us pay too much attention to the U.S. Senate.

A real progressive movement is built at the grass roots, and in the States. I got laughed at on another message board when I suggested that Dems winning so many governorships in Nov. 2006 was actually the most important thing that happened. Governors and State legislators are the building blocks of a progressive movement. This Strickland guy sounds like he could turn Ohio blue, if he keeps it up.
 
Political junkies like us pay too much attention to the U.S. Senate.

A real progressive movement is built at the grass roots, and in the States. I got laughed at on another message board when I suggested that Dems winning so many governorships in Nov. 2006 was actually the most important thing that happened. Governors and State legislators are the building blocks of a progressive movement. This Strickland guy sounds like he could turn Ohio blue, if he keeps it up.
If that's the case Ritter screwed up in CO with his fiat in the DL office to give Driver's licenses out more easily, even when people do not have proper forms of identifying paperwork....
 
elections aren't ultimately decided over drivers lisences.

If Ritter follows the model of Governor Schweitzer in Montana, he will be successful.
 
elections aren't ultimately decided over drivers lisences.

If Ritter follows the model of Governor Schweitzer in Montana, he will be successful.
They do if one of the main issues of the population of the state is illegal immigration.
 
They do if one of the main issues of the population of the state is illegal immigration.

You might be right.

But I think the rightwing thinks a wedge issue is going to save them. That may have been true at one time, but I think things are changing.

I think people, more and more, are going to be voting about healthcare, education, wages, and economic fairness issues.
 
You might be right.

But I think the rightwing thinks a wedge issue is going to save them. That may have been true at one time, but I think things are changing.

I think people, more and more, are going to be voting about healthcare, education, wages, and economic fairness issues.
All of those associate to illegal immigration in CO. You attempt to sideline a very important issue with ramifications in each of the areas you list and foolishly dismiss a very strong issue.
 
All of those associate to illegal immigration in CO. You attempt to sideline a very important issue with ramifications in each of the areas you list and foolishly dismiss a very strong issue.

If you think a governor can lose, simply because he made it "easier" to get a drivers liscence, thats fine.

If I was a colorado farmer or rancher, I'd be more concerned with the state and federal governments policies that were destroying my business: unfair trade agreements with respect to china and mexican agricultural products - and corporate pork and regulations that favors mega corporate agri-business over family farms
 
Who gives a shit about colorado, we are talking about OHIO here. Nobody cares about Colorado. Let it stay red.

OHIO.
 
If you think a governor can lose, simply because he made it "easier" to get a drivers liscence, thats fine.

If I was a colorado farmer or rancher, I'd be more concerned with the state and federal governments policies that were destroying my business: unfair trade agreements with respect to china and mexican agricultural products - and corporate pork and regulations that favors mega corporate agri-business over family farms
Actually it is a consistent and pervasive part of his administration, it is just one more sign that he doesn't listen to the constituency. He placed the Executive Order after vetoing a bill that so many called in against that he had no choice but veto. However his Executive Order had the same effect and many, many are pissed.

It also ties in to exactly what you think they should be concerned about and it would be foolish indeed to continue in this vein. I hope he does, he will lose.

If the Ds continue on this track they will lose quickly after gaining in the past two elections.
 
But if I remember correctly, it's your fault anyway.
Ahhh.... yes. But that just adds to the size of the head. I even effect the stuff I don't mean to...

Maybe I should invite Vick for dinner. You think he likes spicy barbecue?
 
Ahhh.... yes. But that just adds to the size of the head. I even effect the stuff I don't mean to...

Maybe I should invite Vick for dinner. You think he likes spicy barbecue?

LOL

Well, other than vegetarians, who doesn't? He'll probably love it.
 
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