Oh. My. God.

Taft2016 said:
It's a ridiculously facile broadbrushing to suggest a chimp sticking a branch into a termite mound reflects no significant evolutionary advancement than the space shuttle.

So naturally you *have* to say that such an advanced capacity has nothing to do with evolution. And on that we agree.
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They fashion tools for all different kinds of things.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tool_use_by_animals

It shows advancement but most of it is technological advancement. We had nothing close to a space shuttle or even an understanding of what we might do with one all that long ago, for instance, in those days before the rise of Egypt. Our technology was only slightly more advanced than poking sticks in the ground. Our advancement from here to there had almost nothing to do with biological evolution (though it certainly armed or thumbed us a greater capacity to use tools). Technological advancement is not proof of evolution and does nothing really to address the proof of man's evolution.
 
Evolutionary theory says man was once one of the apes ramming sticks into termite mounds to get food.

It also holds that man developed an intelligence and mental capacity beyond that of other apes through evolution to get where he is today.

Man's intelligence far out paces any other species, probably every other species combined.

It's a simple question: why was evolution so beneficial to one species and didn't even come close to giving such a gift to any others?

Especially such a relatively new species. Why aren't crocodiles having this discussion instead of us?
 
Taft2016 said:
Evolutionary theory says man was once one of the apes ramming sticks into termite mounds to get food.

It also holds that man developed an intelligence and mental capacity beyond that of other apes through evolution to get where he is today.

Man's intelligence far out paces any other species, probably every other species combined.

It's a simple question: why was evolution so beneficial to one species and didn't even come close to giving such a gift to any others?

Especially such a relatively new species. Why aren't crocodiles having this discussion instead of us?
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You will not live forever, no matter what you profess to believe, Taffy...
 
Taft2016 said:
Evolutionary theory says man was once one of the apes ramming sticks into termite mounds to get food.


It also holds that man developed an intelligence and mental capacity beyond that of other apes through evolution to get where he is today.

Man's intelligence far out paces any other species, probably every other species combined.

It's a simple question: why was evolution so beneficial to one species and didn't even come close to giving such a gift to any others?

Especially such a relatively new species. Why aren't crocodiles having this discussion instead of us?
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You are talking in qualitative terms that you can't support.

Again, the proof that man evolved is the same as the proof that other species evolved. The lines of evidence are fossil, biogeography, dna, etc. You are only addressing a small number of behavioral homologies, ignoring the fact that other animals show signs of sharing these traits and conflating technological leaps with biological ones.
 
Dick from the Internet said:
You are talking in qualitative terms that you can't support.

Again, the proof that man evolved is the same as the proof that other species evolved. The lines of evidence are fossil, biogeography, dna and homologies. You are only addressing a small number of homologies or potential homologies, ignoring the fact that other animals show signs of sharing these traits and conflating technological leaps with biological ones.
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Dick, an exercise in futility. You are dealing with an idiot.
 
As I've said infinitum, it's not the technologies themselves, but the allegedly super evolved capacity to create them, which no other species has.

I'm addressing the unevolved 800 lbs gorilla in the room, which you seem determined to gloss over.

Sad.
 
Nor does any fossil record preclude a theory of divine enlightenment of the chosen species.

In fact, it makes it more probable in explaining the accelerated capacity of man's learning.
 
Taft2016 said:
As I've said infinitum, it's not the technologies themselves, but the allegedly super evolved capacity to create them, which no other species has.

I'm addressing the unevolved 800 lbs gorilla in the room, which you seem determined to gloss over.

Sad.
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But other species have the ability to make tools. Yes, our capacities are more advanced.

I am glossing over nothing. You are glossing over the fact that the proof for the gorilla's relationship to a sequoia, slug or a alligator has virtually nothing to do with tool use (even though his capacities are far greater) so why would his relationship to humans be based on that topic? Because you are desperately grasping at straws to rationalize your cowardly need to conform.
 
Taft2016 said:
Evolutionary theory says man was once one of the apes ramming sticks into termite mounds to get food.

It also holds that man developed an intelligence and mental capacity beyond that of other apes through evolution to get where he is today.

Man's intelligence far out paces any other species, probably every other species combined.

It's a simple question: why was evolution so beneficial to one species and didn't even come close to giving such a gift to any others?

Especially such a relatively new species. Why aren't crocodiles having this discussion instead of us?
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You're just using a "pothole fits the puddle" argument now. We're at the "top" so everything we do is special, so therefore we must be special. That's not the case. We're a very SUCCESSFUL species, yes, but not inherently special in terms of our evolution.
 
Taft2016 said:
Right, and I achieve eternal life by offering alternative theories to Biblical creation?

Show your idiocy to your teacher when you get back to school. These days you might actually get extra credit for mindless libtard trolling.
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Don't you believe you will live forever, Taffy?
Tell me you don't... I dare you...
 
Dick from the Internet said:
But other species have the ability to make tools. Yes, our capacities are more advanced.

I am glossing over nothing. You are glossing over the fact that the proof for the gorilla's relationship to a sequoia, slug or a alligator has virtually nothing to do with tool use (even though his capacities are far greater) so why would his relationship to humans be based on that topic? Because you are desperately grasping at straws to rationalize your cowardly need to conform.
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Conform with what? I already said people get too hung up on Biblical creationism.

What am I cowardly trying to conform to?

Explain.
 
Mr.Badguy said:
You're just using a "pothole fits the puddle" argument now. We're at the "top" so everything we do is special, so therefore we must be special. That's not the case. We're a very SUCCESSFUL species, yes, but not inherently special in terms of our evolution.
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You're just kidding yourself now.

I love libtard talk though.

"Man has the capacity to destroy the planet! But he's really no different than any other species. "

Lol.
 
And we're not just "at the top," like crocodiles are over alligators.

We're literally in the stratosphere above all other species.

We master areas they don't even know exist.
 
Mr.Badguy said:
When did I say we're not different? We're just not "special" or "chosen".
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Of course we're special.

We're light years beyond every other species. You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

Our achievements as a species outweigh those of every other species combined.

That's 8,699,999 species to our one.
 
Taft2016 said:
Conform with what? I already said people get too hung up on Biblical creationism.

What am I cowardly trying to conform to?

Explain.
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Let's stay on topic. You are not talking directly about the lines of evidence for the evolution of any animal much less man.

But even in regard to the behaviors you are discussing, Koko signed, had a cat and could use tools. I don't think a palm tree has come anywhere close to doing anything like that and I would say Koko's behaviors are far more like our behaviors than the palm trees. Yet you claim to accept what the theory of evolution suggests about the relationship between the palm tree and the gorilla but not the gorilla and us?
 
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