Official Debate Thread Round III

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PostmodernProphet said:
still do.....are you going on record as believing that naval ships are as irrelevant to national defense as horses and bayonets?......
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I'm still wondering about, 'The Navy asked for 313 ships, you gave them 290 or so'... then hearing that they aren't asking for stuff in the answer. Comparing warships with bayonets was truly sophomoric. It sounds like something somebody here would do rather than what the President should be capable of...

The reality, "the military isn't asking for" wasn't true.
 
evince said:
why dont you care that robmoney changed all his stances?
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This just shows a level of ignorance on what his positions actually are, or a continued belief that people who actually pay attention to politics at the level people at political sites do would be "fooled" by people who make statements like this. (And since we're being all sophomoric and playing with names.) Oblamer is ready to take credit for the withdrawal agreements signed by Bush that he followed to the letter... That's for people like Desh, those who remain deliberately ignorant, but he can't understand that he didn't "inherit" a job he applied and eagerly worked to get and that his policy led to Al Qaeda proving him wrong in Libya. Al Qaeda isn't uncoordinated, or incapable of large scale attacks.

His slow response and inability to make simple decisions like sending air support to those trying to protect our Ambassador while they were under attack shows that he has been promoted beyond his level of competence.
 
TheRocketSurgeon said:
You are putting way too much stock into a survey that draws nice neat little imaginary lines between issues. Most people realize that those imaginary lines do not exist. How we deal with China, and Iran will have a huge impact on our economy. Bush's spending on wars is a big part of our current crisis.

My comments are on substance and how I think it will affect the campaigns. I have no idea how your poll was compiled or conducted but are you quite sure that Ron Paul did not win the debate? Honestly, the way most of those polls are conducted make them quite useless for any sort of analyses. Without a link I will assume it is garbage.
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it was the result of cnn's polling and was on air so I didn't have a link.
 
You know you really have to wonder about the approximately 6% of undecided voters. Who are these nitwits and where the hell have they been hiding? Under a rock? How insulated or apathetic a life do they lead they haven't made an apparent effort to become informed about a most fundamentally basic civic duty? Do we ever really want these idiots voting and deciding this election??
 
Mott the Hoople said:
You know you really have to wonder about the approximately 6% of undecided voters. Who are these nitwits and where the hell have they been hiding? Under a rock? How insulated or apathetic a life do they lead they haven't made an apparent effort to become informed about a most fundamentally basic civic duty? Do we ever really want these idiots voting and deciding this election??
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no we don't. we need a system where a certain bar has to be met to be allowed to vote. At least in utopia land. I don't know how you could apply it in reality.
 
Mention of the Navy is a bone Romney threw to Virginia.

Our Navy is bigger than the next 13 navies combined. John Lehman, Sec of Navy, under Reagan.

Romney talks about his cuts, well folks, to balance the budget some military cuts have to be made!

We can not afford to grow our Navy to 350 ships. Our Navy should not be the babysitter of the world.
 
Q _ Q said:
no we don't. we need a system where a certain bar has to be met to be allowed to vote. At least in utopia land. I don't know how you could apply it in reality.
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You can't. It's the fatal flaw of democracy. They're too many mouth breathers around to trust the fate of a great nation to morons. That's why we're a democratic Republic.
 
Rana said:
Mention of the Navy is a bone Romney threw to Virginia.

Our Navy is bigger than the next 13 navies combined. John Lehman, Sec of Navy, under Reagan.

Romney talks about his cuts, well folks, to balance the budget some military cuts have to be made!

We can not afford to grow our Navy to 350 ships. Our Navy should not be the babysitter of the world.
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Ahmen sister. What they're really doing though is trying to turn the MIA into a jobs program. Probably not a good idea.
 
TheRocketSurgeon said:
I don't care what you think liberals think. RCP is suspect because they give pollsters like Gravis Marketing (which I already showed was nothing but a joke with biased and questionable managment) an even weight with actual polling agencies. But even there Romney is behind where it matters, in electoral votes. The popular vote is important to pinheads and partisan hacks trying to influence pinheads.
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RCP has Romney ahead on the Electoral map as well, unless you look at the "no toss ups" map, which we all know, there ARE toss ups. A few of those swing Romney's way, and he wins big. I just find it fascinating, pinhead liberals have been blowing up my Facebook posting RCP polls for MONTHS, insisting this is the best source of polling data... now suddenly, the revelation they aren't worth a shit? Amazing! And let's be perfectly clear about "what matters", that would be the poll conducted on November 6th, which hasn't been tallied yet. Don't confuse a poll prediction with the actual Electoral College.

TheRocketSurgeon said:
I mentioned them before. His call for an indictment of Ahmadinejad and for having China declared as a currency manipulator on his first day in office. Both of those positions are crazy and would be disasterous. I doubt he really means it. I hope that they are discussed more, because it is just insane and we don't need anymore little boys playing Cowboy in the oval office.

Your own party does not think like you. Romney is doing his best to run away from your kind and he did it again last night. Benghazi is now an issue he will avoid when appealing to the middle. Who was it that called that immediately following the last debate? You are just a bitter old fool who probably still does not understand why Trump is considered a joke and Santorum stinks to most people.
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Well I happen to like both policies, and support them wholeheartedly. I don't think either on is "nuts" and I think most republicans and conservatives agree. So, like I said, you're not a very good measure of what most people think. Romney avoided Benghazi because, again, his criteria for a win was different than Obama's, he needed to stay "above the fray" and politicizing the tragedy at Benghazi would have been a huge mistake in that regard.

Speaking of Cowboys in the Oval Office... Can YOU name the three countries we are currently drone-bombing that we weren't engaged in under Bush? And IF you can do that, would you be so kind as to tell me when the UN approved this action, or the Congress, or any goddamn body else besides Cowboy Obama?
 
dixie you are behind the times. 538 is the new site that keeps liberals from outright killing themselves. Apparently nate silver is a smart dude so we'll seee
 
Rana said:
Mention of the Navy is a bone Romney threw to Virginia.

Our Navy is bigger than the next 13 navies combined. John Lehman, Sec of Navy, under Reagan.

Romney talks about his cuts, well folks, to balance the budget some military cuts have to be made!

We can not afford to grow our Navy to 350 ships. Our Navy should not be the babysitter of the world.
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we should beat our bayonets into plowshares, our ships into bridges and our liberals senseless.......
 
big bird... binders.... bayonets. the 3 most important issues according to liberals for the month of october.
 
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Mott the Hoople said:
You know you really have to wonder about the approximately 6% of undecided voters. Who are these nitwits and where the hell have they been hiding? Under a rock? How insulated or apathetic a life do they lead they haven't made an apparent effort to become informed about a most fundamentally basic civic duty? Do we ever really want these idiots voting and deciding this election??
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Or it could be that both candidates repulse them and thus they don't know which snake to pull the lever for. you make a foolish assumption that it is because they are uninformed when in reality it is far more likely the uninformed are the ones that 'decided' the second they knew their respective party's candidate.
 
Q _ Q said:
no we don't. we need a system where a certain bar has to be met to be allowed to vote. At least in utopia land. I don't know how you could apply it in reality.
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Didn't the Founders apply it in reality?

No votes for Blacks, women, or the poor, sorta like today's GOP dream?
 
Superfreak said:
Or it could be that both candidates repulse them and thus they don't know which snake to pull the lever for. you make a foolish assumption that it is because they are uninformed when in reality it is far more likely the uninformed are the ones that 'decided' the second they knew their respective party's candidate.
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No, they really are uniformed. Actually, that's putting it mildly. They are retarded mouthbreathing proles who can't even tie their shoelaces...

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Didn't the Founders apply it in reality?

No votes for Blacks, women, or the poor, sorta like today's GOP dream?
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i would make it so only tax payers can vote. It implies you are a productive member of society, you contribute not only based on your actual job, but money is being taken from you and used to fund our military, our schools, build bridges and roads, pay for the police and firefighters, and support our communities. Tax payers actually have a real stake in the country.

No one that doesn't pay taxes should have the same voice as one that does.
 
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