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So he did indeed produce it. Thanks. That is all you needed to say. I don't care if you consider it close to what Obama went through.
That is your opinion. You are entitled to such.
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So he did indeed produce it. Thanks. That is all you needed to say. I don't care if you consider it close to what Obama went through.
That is your opinion. You are entitled to such.
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When did the Washington Post became an arm of government?
I don't consider it "producing" his birth certificate. And your claim was that McCain went through the same thing that Obama did. He didn't.
It's a stone cold fact.
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He isn't calling you a moron, so I think you've won.
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Ha, good point Tom!
Or should we say he knows he lost, since pretty much DH beats him every time.
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Again, what you think doesn't matter. The fact is that he did indeed produce it. If he had not, how would the reporter have seen it? Common sense escapes liberals all the time...
Not to the same extent, no... the point was people made an issue of where he was born. People asked for a copy of his birth certificate. I know it is confusing to you... just go ask your masters what you are supposed to say next and then report back to us. Thanks.
No moron, it is your OPINION. You are giving your opinion on what is 'legitimate'.
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You better be on your toes, Dung is trying to capture the moron of the day award from you.
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Yeah I don't think either he or I are going to take the number one spot. I'm not worried.
j-mac
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Am I reading this right? Are you saying that Presidential candidates release 12 years of returns prior to their running for office?
What are you basing that on?
Goddamn, man. Did you go to the Yurt School of Reading?
I am saying that Obama has released 12 years of tax returns and his birth certificate. Romney has released 1 year of tax returns and his birth certificate. Thus, we're 11 years of tax returns shy of even. Get it?
j-mac
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While I agree that the birther crap is silly, we now see the same vigor over Romney's tax records...
Why? Tax returns fall under the privacy act of 1970 no?
Is there any proof of the IRS looking into anything illegal with Romney? Don't you think that if there was even a glimmer of something there that Obama, or the DNC would have the IRS on him quicker than slick shit in a rain storm?
Not til after he became President you couldn't...
Well, I will say this..Typically candidates release I think three years to the public, and that doesn't usually happen til after the convention....
You do know that his investments are in a blind trust, right?
First the taxes he has released show no investment that avoids taxes. Second, the American government has invested in some of the same banks.
Just so you are aware.
j-mac
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Ok, back off sparky, that's why I asked the question...Wound a little tight are you not?....
but since you bring it up, can you show me the constitutional provision, or law that requires a presumptive candidate to release 12 years of tax returns?
"Blind" trust, you mean.
I very seriously doubt that the United States government has invested in Swiss banks as the term "invested in" is commonly understood. Also, too, I'm sure as shit that the U.S. government ain't invested in Sankaty High Yield Asset Investors Ltd. And, the issue isn't Romeny "investing in" Swiss banks by purchasing shares, but in Romney opening a Swiss bank account to park his money.
Finally, it is very difficult to actually assess whether Romney avoided taxes because of the nature of his financial disclosures and lack of returns for many years.
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He is trying to recover some dignity.
It tickles me that people are crazy enough to draw a similarity between Obama's birth certificate and Romney not realeasing tax returns.
On one hand we have a black man who initiated a massive conspiracy while in his mother's womb to cover up his place of birth in order to run for president almost fifty years later.
On the other hand we have a super rich guy that stashes his money in tax havens around the world to avoid paying federal taxes, then closes the biggest account two years before running for president so the details of the account remain hidden.
Yet only one, the black one, is deserving of scorn.
On one hand we have a black man who initiated a massive conspiracy while in his mother's womb to cover up his place of birth in order to run for president almost fifty years later.
On the other hand we have a super rich guy that stashes his money in tax havens around the world to avoid paying federal taxes, then closes the biggest account two years before running for president so the details of the account remain hidden.
Yet only one, the black one, is deserving of scorn.
j-mac
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Wait, what? Why are you shifting the current conversation? This makes no sense...Even? You mean as far as Romney releasing his 2010, and 2011 (I'll give you the benefit that it was estimated return) vs. Obama releasing his BC..? Well, The actual difference is that Obama is required by the constitution to be a natural born citizen, if there is a question Congress has the right to see it period. On the other hand, Romney is not even the Republican Candidate yet, the convention hasn't happened, so he is under NOTHING to release one darn shred of paper to you....
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if someone assumes what you meant, you're a hack mind reader
if someone asks you to clarify what you meant instead of assuming, you're a fucker who can't read