Obama's speech to Parliment

Mott the Hoople

Sweet Jane
Excellent speech by Obama though I'm sure it went over like a lead brick in the U.K. Oh well...the truth is much like poetry...and most people don't like poetry either.

I'm absolutely sure that Obama's speech, though matter of fact and truthful, was quite unpopular in the UK because it really cut through the charade and imagery of British pomp and circumstance and pointedly, yet tactfully, asserted the fact of who is the junior member in the relationship, who is the world power and who is a second world power. Given the U.K.'s history I'm sure that was as popular as day old haggis.

Obama's criticism's of the Tory's is spot in. This is no longer the 19th century. The day of the Haj is gone and so is the Empire. The U.K.'s sense of Imperium, held by many political elites in the U.K., is not only an anachronism it's an illusion in which many in the U.K. deceive themselves.

Those in the U.K. who criticize Obama for his comments are entitled to their opinion but I can assure them this. They would not have heard much different from a President Bush or whomever shall be elected this year in the U.S. I understand that sometimes the truth hurts but the "Go it alone" attitude of the Tory's had to be disabused by their senior partner. To think that the U.S. will blindly stand by and permit the U.K. to make a stupendous blunder based on pride and stubbornness is colossally naïve.

Does the U.K. really and honestly think that the U.S. will stand by and permit them to do damage to E.U. trade and military agreements that the U.S. has invested trillions in?

They are damned fools if they do and Obama was absolutely right in pointing this out. Did it hurt some feelings and ruffle some feathers? I'm sure it did but sometimes the Father in the relationship has to tell Junior that their actions are not in their own best interest weather they like to hear this or not.

In that respect, sorry if the U.K. didn't like being told that their "Go it alone" attitude is not in the U.S. best interest and therefore we believe it to not be in their best interest. If they U.K. thinks they would have heard something different on this topic from another U.S. President, they are sadly mistaken.
 
Well, Obama has less than a year to show them his discontent, and the Brits have followed us into some misadventures this century (which led to the collapse of the Labour regime).
 
Excellent speech by Obama though I'm sure it went over like a lead brick in the U.K. Oh well...the truth is much like poetry...and most people don't like poetry either.

I'm absolutely sure that Obama's speech, though matter of fact and truthful, was quite unpopular in the UK because it really cut through the charade and imagery of British pomp and circumstance and pointedly, yet tactfully, asserted the fact of who is the junior member in the relationship, who is the world power and who is a second world power. Given the U.K.'s history I'm sure that was as popular as day old haggis.

Obama's criticism's of the Tory's is spot in. This is no longer the 19th century. The day of the Haj is gone and so is the Empire. The U.K.'s sense of Imperium, held by many political elites in the U.K., is not only an anachronism it's an illusion in which many in the U.K. deceive themselves.

Those in the U.K. who criticize Obama for his comments are entitled to their opinion but I can assure them this. They would not have heard much different from a President Bush or whomever shall be elected this year in the U.S. I understand that sometimes the truth hurts but the "Go it alone" attitude of the Tory's had to be disabused by their senior partner. To think that the U.S. will blindly stand by and permit the U.K. to make a stupendous blunder based on pride and stubbornness is colossally naïve.

Does the U.K. really and honestly think that the U.S. will stand by and permit them to do damage to E.U. trade and military agreements that the U.S. has invested trillions in?

They are damned fools if they do and Obama was absolutely right in pointing this out. Did it hurt some feelings and ruffle some feathers? I'm sure it did but sometimes the Father in the relationship has to tell Junior that their actions are not in their own best interest weather they like to hear this or not.

In that respect, sorry if the U.K. didn't like being told that their "Go it alone" attitude is not in the U.S. best interest and therefore we believe it to not be in their best interest. If they U.K. thinks they would have heard something different on this topic from another U.S. President, they are sadly mistaken.

I'm always being told not to judge America by the Trumpers. Don't judge us by their thick equivalents here - your President is more popular with us than with you.
 
Excellent speech by Obama though I'm sure it went over like a lead brick in the U.K. Oh well...the truth is much like poetry...and most people don't like poetry either.

I'm absolutely sure that Obama's speech, though matter of fact and truthful, was quite unpopular in the UK because it really cut through the charade and imagery of British pomp and circumstance and pointedly, yet tactfully, asserted the fact of who is the junior member in the relationship, who is the world power and who is a second world power. Given the U.K.'s history I'm sure that was as popular as day old haggis.

Obama's criticism's of the Tory's is spot in. This is no longer the 19th century. The day of the Haj is gone and so is the Empire. The U.K.'s sense of Imperium, held by many political elites in the U.K., is not only an anachronism it's an illusion in which many in the U.K. deceive themselves.

Those in the U.K. who criticize Obama for his comments are entitled to their opinion but I can assure them this. They would not have heard much different from a President Bush or whomever shall be elected this year in the U.S. I understand that sometimes the truth hurts but the "Go it alone" attitude of the Tory's had to be disabused by their senior partner. To think that the U.S. will blindly stand by and permit the U.K. to make a stupendous blunder based on pride and stubbornness is colossally naïve.

Does the U.K. really and honestly think that the U.S. will stand by and permit them to do damage to E.U. trade and military agreements that the U.S. has invested trillions in?

They are damned fools if they do and Obama was absolutely right in pointing this out. Did it hurt some feelings and ruffle some feathers? I'm sure it did but sometimes the Father in the relationship has to tell Junior that their actions are not in their own best interest weather they like to hear this or not.

In that respect, sorry if the U.K. didn't like being told that their "Go it alone" attitude is not in the U.S. best interest and therefore we believe it to not be in their best interest. If they U.K. thinks they would have heard something different on this topic from another U.S. President, they are sadly mistaken.
If you are going to pontificate at least get it right, it was called the Raj and not the Haj!! The reason why it went down down badly over here is because it was mainly lies and bullshit written by number 10 and using Obama as an innocent dupe. I mean holy shit he even used the word queue instead of line, you Merkin's just don't have a clue about what's going on in Europe all you can do is compare to your own country. We know full well that the US use the UK when they need to and shit on us the rest of the time, that's nothing new!! Everything the EU touches turns to shit, ask Greece ffs.

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i think obama needs to stop. Whatever happens in brexit we still have to work with the brits and more than anything i think he has killed our alliance with them. The back of the line comment means we place 0 value on the uk.
 
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Does the U.K. really and honestly think that the U.S. will stand by and permit them to do damage to E.U. trade and military agreements that the U.S. has invested trillions in
This is about The EU but not about NATO - am I correct? ( sorry not all p on this)

Frankly, Great Britain should do what is best for GB. Do I know what that is? I have an opinion - but it's not my call anymore then it is Obama's..

I do not see why an advocacy speech is called for here - GB can certainly set it's own course without Obama's interference.
 
i think obama needs to stop. Whatever happens in brexit we still have to work with the brits and more than anything i think he has killed our alliance with them. The back of the line comment means we place 0 value on the uk.

When he said that a trade deal could take 10 years that was beyond doubt ocean going bullshit. He seems to have forgotten about the WTO and the fact that it is far easier for one country to cut a deal than an entity like the EU which negotiates on behalf of 28 countries. What he is really worried about, and the bastard wouldn't say it, is that he's scared shitless that TTIP will go down the Swaney, well good is all I can say to that!!
 
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This is about The EU but not about NATO - am I correct? ( sorry not all p on this)

Frankly, Great Britain should do what is best for GB. Do I know what that is? I have an opinion - but it's not my call anymore then it is Obama's..

I do not see why an advocacy speech is called for here - GB can certainly set it's own course without Obama's interference.
That is just more bullshit, NATO was around before the EU and for anyone to claim that a bunch of overweight Eurocrats had anything to do with it is beyond parody.

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Tom has a meltdown.

No mate, I can get through a day without recourse to industrial strength Buggerall unlike you!!

If you are going to pontificate at least get it right, it was called the Raj and not the Haj!! The reason why it went down down badly over here is because it was mainly lies and bullshit written by number 10 and using Obama as an innocent dupe. I mean holy shit he even used the word queue instead of line, you Merkin's just don't have a clue about what's going on in Europe all you can do is compare to your own country. We know full well that the US use the UK when they need to and shit on us the rest of the time, that's nothing new!! Everything the EU touches turns to shit, ask Greece ffs.

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i think obama needs to stop. Whatever happens in brexit we still have to work with the brits and more than anything i think he has killed our alliance with them. The back of the line comment means we place 0 value on the uk.

That reflects their actual value in any "alliance" with us.

Ask the US commanders in Afghanistan if the Tommies pulled their weight there.
 
Obama has always had disdain for England. Didn't he give the Queen a gift of his speeches and his book?

He gave Gordon Brown 25 DVDs of classic films when he gave him an ornamental pen holder made from the timbers of the Victorian anti-slave ship HMS Gannet. Might as well just have given him a subscription to Netflix!!
 
He gave Gordon Brown 25 DVDs of classic films when he gave him an ornamental pen holder made from the timbers of the Victorian anti-slave ship HMS Gannet. Might as well just have given him a subscription to Netflix!!

April 2009: Obama gives Queen Elizabeth an iPod
White visiting the Queen, the Obama family gave her an iPod, prompting raised eyebrows from the British Press. The MP3 player came pre-loaded with photos from President Obama’s inauguration and audio files of the president’s speech as a senator to the 2004 Democratic National Convention and his 2009 inauguration address.

Get with the times Brit. Do you guys have toothpaste and tooth brushes over there yet?
 
I just want to see the EU fall flat on its face, and Brexit seems like quite a step toward that.

Merkel pulls the strings of the EU, Germany loves it because the Euro is basically a devalued Deutsche Mark. That coupled with a one size fits all interest rate for the Eurozone which allowed Greece and the other PIIGS to borrow and buy like there was no tomorrow.
 
April 2009: Obama gives Queen Elizabeth an iPod
White visiting the Queen, the Obama family gave her an iPod, prompting raised eyebrows from the British Press. The MP3 player came pre-loaded with photos from President Obama’s inauguration and audio files of the president’s speech as a senator to the 2004 Democratic National Convention and his 2009 inauguration address.

Get with the times Brit. Do you guys have toothpaste and tooth brushes over there yet?

Holy shit, aren't there any Septics on here with new jokes?
 
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