2 of those years with super majorities in both houses, a blank check, and trillions...
Please, God. Don't let anybody tell Obama what comes after "Trillion"!
Obama says he inherited economic problems
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2 of those years with super majorities in both houses, a blank check, and trillions...
Please, God. Don't let anybody tell Obama what comes after "Trillion"!
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
What your saying is true but Damo also has a point too. I voted for Obama to fix the Bush disaster. The level of leadership demonstrated by Obama has not exactly been impressive. I'm afraid that those who voiced concerns about his lack of experience have been correct. Obama may not be the rolling disaster that the Shrub was, but fuck that, I hired him to fix Bush's mistakes and screw ups and I'm sick to death of hearing excuses. The only person an excuse please is ones self. It's time for Barry to shit or get off the pot!
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
You need to get your sources of information from some place other then Fox News, News Max and the Republican National Comittee. Carter inherited those same conditions from Ford and Ford inherited them from Nixon and it was Carter's policy, formulated by Paul Vockler and continued by Reagan, (who had the good sense to see Carter was on the right path) that ended that period of Stagflation. Anyone who doesn't understand the period of stagflation that occurred during the middle to late 70's was due to Nixon's policies (unarguably the worst President in my life time) probably shouldn't be contributing to this conversation.
Price fixing Nixon, he was such an idiot progressive.
Good Luck
New member
LOL Are you SERIOUS? Reagan CONTINUED Carter's policies? If you are old enough to remember those years, and old enough to understand what was happening, then you were either to fucking wacked out on drugs to remember clearly, or you are an outright boneheaded lying sack of donkey shit.
Carter was all about federal price controls and protectionist trade policies. Reagan was for open market pricing and free trade. We were not in a period of stagflation under Carter, we were in a period of stagflation under Nixon & Ford. By the time Carter's term was coming to an end, we were in a tailspin recession headed for an outright depression. Federal fiscal policies went through drastic, in some areas 180° change when Reagan took office. One of the biggest criticisms against Reagan his first year of office is how Reagan removed price controls, even before they were set to expire. Everyone said the move would result in hyperinflation. That gasoline would hit $3/gallon within a few months (Up from $0.80 at the time), blah, blah, fucking blah.
They were wrong.
And so are you.
Apples & oranges. Today's economy is global.
Interesting that you bring up that era, though. That was one of the last times that an opposition party in Congress made a good faith effort to work w/ the Prez to get things done.
Good luck nailed it. carter's economy was way worse than bush's. There was a lot about bush I didn't like and a lot of it carried over with Obama.
Maybe he was to green. He spent to much, after blasting bush for spending half as much. He increased our military in the shit hole after sucking anti war dicks. He attack every industry with a pulse and is mystified they are squeamish on hiring. He mocked Clinton's wuss approach on herb and became a Prohibitionist extrodinaire.
Maybe he was to green. He spent to much, after blasting bush for spending half as much. He increased our military in the shit hole after sucking anti war dicks. He attack every industry with a pulse and is mystified they are squeamish on hiring. He mocked Clinton's wuss approach on herb and became a Prohibitionist extrodinaire.
cawacko
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What do you consider what happened in the '90's?
Another time when Congress worked w/ the Prez.
That's why my original response said "one of the last times," and not "the last time."
cawacko
Well-known member
I don't even know if they worked with each other so much as they completely battled each other which led to positive results.
I'd describe it as a good faith effort, as well. The goal was to get things done, and not to just block everything in the hopes that it would give you a leg up in the next election.
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Looks like you are in need of reminding about that era.
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-carterreagan.htm
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Must......Defend.......Obama!! Must......Defend.......Obama!
While the economy is more global now than in the 80s, it's not as if we were isolated back then. Europe was also going through bad times in the 80s, a factor which had an effect on our economy, and vice-versa. Maybe we are comparing Red Delicious to Fuji, but it's apples-to-apples, not apples-to-oranges.
The fact is Obama inherited a bad economy. But he has had 2.5 years to make some corrections to set us on a better path, AND HE HAS NOT DONE SO! He has tossed trillions of dollars in a black hole somewhere that was supposed to be a stimulus. He spent all his political capital passing the most gawd-awful piece of bullshit legislation designed to fracture our health care system when he should have been looking for ways to make the economy more friendly to expansion. He purposely let the debt ceiling question sit until the last moment so he could blame republicans for the consequences when he could easily have passed a package ENTIRELY TO HIS LIKING using the democratically controlled congress he had available to him until January 2011. He did not do so because he was too afraid it would make him unpopular. (which it damned well would have - but seriously, is he about doing what he believes is necessary for this country, or being popular?)
From day one, when he had a democratic super majority in the House, and a filibuster-proof democratic majority in the Senate, his rhetoric has been all about how the obstructionist republicans are messing up all his plans. (as if he had any in the first place.) He's a fucking whiny child. Always has been, and always will be.
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IOW, you have no effing clue
you first criticize america for living beyond its means, then you turn around and support that america should live beyond its means
Confirmation that you are an arrogant toss pot, you couldn't have had time to see that video before posting this drivel.
dixon76710
New member
"I inherited a mess and I can't clean it up in 4 years, I need 8!". "Hope" and more of the same.
FUCK THE POLICE
911 EVERY DAY
He shouldn't take any responsibility that isn't his. That would be naive and idiotic. Why do conservatives seem to believe that by saying "Alright, I'm responsible for this" it absolves them of all possible consequences for their actions? When Reagan said he was responsible for Iran Contra, we should have responded by saying "I know", and then leading him to the guillitoine.
You tend to exaggerate a lot. Are you aware of that?
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I just love it when you mindless liberals try to support your opinions with...... ANOTHER OPINION!! LOL
The facts remain: Obama inherited an bad economy consisting of a 6 month recession, low inflation, and 8.6% unemployment.
Reagan inherited an economy consisting of almost 2 years recession, inflation over 12%, unemployment over 11%.
After 2.5 years, Obama has an economy BARELY out of recession and continually threatening to dip back in, still low inflation (thank God, because Obama had nothing to do with it) and 9.2% unemployment.
After 2.5 years Reagan had an economy well out of recession and headed for robust growth, low inflation, and 8.4% unemployment.
Reagan had a hostile congress. Obama's first two years had a super majority in both houses.
The REAL difference between the two? Reagan, whether you like his policies or not, was a full blown, capable LEADER, with the ability to work with those who held opposing views.
Obama, whether you like his policies or not, is a simpering wimp, completely out of his league in taking on the office of President, who can only whine like a baby about his opponents. He's so incompetent he had to resort to political bribery to get his own party members to vote for his health care crap.