Obama says anti-terror 'buck' stops with him

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Translation: this willfully ignorant neocon blowhard CANNOT logically or factually refute the information given in the link.

Reality check:

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/01/07/...i-shoe-bomber/

Game over for meme.

hahaha, so what does he do, makes the link BOLDER and BIGGER...like that makes it more important or sumthing..

Well, since you're either too stupid or too stubborn to deal with facts that disprove the most recent neocon bullhorn, there's nothing else for me to do but point out the obvious, then watch you make an ass of yourself with ad nauseum repetition (as having the last word is your version of "winning" a debate). Carry on...I'm done with you on this topic.
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Is that a hopeful prediction on your part? Because last time I checked, in the last year Obama didn't invade a country that had nothing to do with Al Qaeda or 9/11.

He's doing a pretty good job dropping bombs and missiles from drones though, isn't he?

True enough.....but again, has he invaded and occupied a country that has NOTHING to do with the situation in Afghanistan? To date, I don't see a tally of thousands of civilians dead via "strategic bombing" or Blackwater revenge, nor do I see over 4000 dead and over 25000 maimed/wounded American soldiers. So I ask again, is this wishful thinking on your part?
 
why i am not surprised you couldn't be honest and apologize

maybe when you stop doing this, you can grow up

:tantrum:

Please. You implied that I didn't think Obama was reluctant; that was a lie. It's called psychological projection.

And how about your apology? You know...when you said that you wouldn't be able to list all of the many, many falsehoods I was spreading about Bush, because you wouldn't have time?

Where's that apology, hack-o?

:pke:
 
why can't you be honest, just once

:(

I was.

Do you really think that I have spread so many falsehoods about Bush that it would take you too much time to recount some of them?

Yes or no on that one, Yurtie. Show me how "honest" you are.

:eek:
 
i'm truly saddened by your continued dishonesty. i felt we almost bonded in the abortion thread, yet here you are up to your old tricks. i'm going to go have a beer so i can cry in it.....

:(
 
True enough.....but again, has he invaded and occupied a country that has NOTHING to do with the situation in Afghanistan? To date, I don't see a tally of thousands of civilians dead via "strategic bombing" or Blackwater revenge, nor do I see over 4000 dead and over 25000 maimed/wounded American soldiers. So I ask again, is this wishful thinking on your part?
It is a prediction, period. Weak foreign policy will only result in deaths of more Americans.
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
True enough.....but again, has he invaded and occupied a country that has NOTHING to do with the situation in Afghanistan? To date, I don't see a tally of thousands of civilians dead via "strategic bombing" or Blackwater revenge, nor do I see over 4000 dead and over 25000 maimed/wounded American soldiers. So I ask again, is this wishful thinking on your part?

It is a prediction, period. Weak foreign policy will only result in deaths of more Americans.

So you have nothing but wishful thinking, opinion, supposition and conjecture with regards to your statements about Obama and our current actions against Al Qaida and on national security.
 
True enough.....but again, has he invaded and occupied a country that has NOTHING to do with the situation in Afghanistan? To date, I don't see a tally of thousands of civilians dead via "strategic bombing" or Blackwater revenge, nor do I see over 4000 dead and over 25000 maimed/wounded American soldiers. So I ask again, is this wishful thinking on your part?

I guess Lancet has other fish to fry? I mean that is where the numbers come from, right?
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
True enough.....but again, has he invaded and occupied a country that has NOTHING to do with the situation in Afghanistan? To date, I don't see a tally of thousands of civilians dead via "strategic bombing" or Blackwater revenge, nor do I see over 4000 dead and over 25000 maimed/wounded American soldiers. So I ask again, is this wishful thinking on your part?

I guess Lancet has other fish to fry? I mean that is where the numbers come from, right?

Not quite. Observe:

http://icasualties.org/iraq/index.aspx

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/fallen/iraq/
 
So you have nothing but wishful thinking, opinion, supposition and conjecture with regards to your statements about Obama and our current actions against Al Qaida and on national security.
Where did you come up with this "wishful thinking" bullshit?

It's not conjecture that weak foreign policy exposes American citizens to risk.
 
Where did you come up with this "wishful thinking" bullshit?


It's not conjecture that weak foreign policy exposes American citizens to risk.

Actually, it's your bullshit that I'm calling you out on...if you'd paid attention, you'll see it in the chronology of the exchanges on this thread. To date, you've failed to give any fact based support of your original claims and statements. Now you're just adding more of the same thing...which doesn't excuse your original failure.

You can make all the accusations and statements you want....proving it with facts and documentation seems to be a problem for you. So be it...just don't EVER ask for proof from someone else if you're not willing to give it yourself.
 
Actually, it's your bullshit that I'm calling you out on...if you'd paid attention, you'll see it in the chronology of the exchanges on this thread. To date, you've failed to give any fact based support of your original claims and statements. Now you're just adding more of the same thing...which doesn't excuse your original failure.

You can make all the accusations and statements you want....proving it with facts and documentation seems to be a problem for you. So be it...just don't EVER ask for proof from someone else if you're not willing to give it yourself.
Still no answer to my question: Where did you come up with this "wishful thinking" bullshit?

You want proof that weak foreign policy leads to deaths? Read about the history of Europe in the run-up to WW2.
 
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Actually, it's your bullshit that I'm calling you out on...if you'd paid attention, you'll see it in the chronology of the exchanges on this thread. To date, you've failed to give any fact based support of your original claims and statements. Now you're just adding more of the same thing...which doesn't excuse your original failure.

You can make all the accusations and statements you want....proving it with facts and documentation seems to be a problem for you. So be it...just don't EVER ask for proof from someone else if you're not willing to give it yourself.

Still no answer to my question: Where did you come up with this "wishful thinking" bullshit?

You want proof that weak foreign policy leads to deaths? Read about the history of Europe in the run-up to WW2.


Posts 24, 44, 53
IT'S YOUR BULLSHIT! You can't compare the Shrub's bogus invasion/occupation to Obama. Worse yet, you have a schizoid attitude regarding recent history..you'll defend to the death the Shrub's policies but readily condemn Obama for continuing part of the policy that the Shrub totally fucked up. You can't provide ANY fact based logic to support your BS, but you'll repeat it ad nauseum as if you're presenting a plausible argument. It's wishful thinking on your part through and through. Next, you'll just try to shift to discussion to this lame comparison to WW2 and Europe which will just be chock full of your suppostion and conjecture in order to try and down Obama in general. First, you should just honestly meet a simple burden of proof that was requested as a result of the previous posts listed above.
 
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Posts 24, 44, 53
IT'S YOUR BULLSHIT! You can't compare the Shrub's bogus invasion/occupation to Obama. Worse yet, you have a schizoid attitude regarding recent history..you'll defend to the death the Shrub's policies but readily condemn Obama for continuing part of the policy that the Shrub totally fucked up. You can't provide ANY fact based logic to support your BS, but you'll repeat it ad nauseum as if you're presenting a plausible argument. It's wishful thinking on your part through and through. Next, you'll just try to shift to discussion to this lame comparison to WW2 and Europe which will just be chock full of your suppostion and conjecture in order to try and down Obama in general. First, you should just honestly meet a simple burden of proof that was requested as a result of the previous posts listed above.

No reason to have a tizzy, Libby. Obama's weak foreign policy will result in untold American deaths. That's not my "wishful thinking", but reality. Your guy is a fuck-up.
 
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