Obama proposes massive new "civilian national security force"

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Jarod said:
Very simular, but less the same as MCCain. Obama is the only one I feel sure would not have gotten us into Iraq in the first place.
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Enough the same that "change" is all we will have in our pockets, and that we can believe in!

(Look at him take me all seriously and stuff).
 
Damocles said:
Enough the same that "change" is all we will have in our pockets, and that we can believe in!

(Look at him take me all seriously and stuff).
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Again, I dont buy into all that change stuff, but I still belive he is better than McCain. Obama was against the war in Iraq... from the first day.
 
with the looming massive expansion of government we are about to have in 15years from now that 500k you got socked away is going to be worth about 100k. Better extend out your retirement age.
 
Jarod said:
Again, I dont buy into all that change stuff, but I still belive he is better than McCain. Obama was against the war in Iraq... from the first day.
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He has never been against the WPA, therefore he is not different enough.

I also do not believe McCain would have gotten us into Iraq, however he also has not been against the WPA and will not get my vote, even though he is better on two of the three things that I find most important, while Obama is entirely opposite me on them.
 
Damocles said:
He has never been against the WPA, therefore he is not different enough.

I also do not believe McCain would have gotten us into Iraq, however he also has not been against the WPA and will not get my vote, even though he is better on two of the three things that I find most important, while Obama is entirely opposite me on them.
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I know where you stand on the WPA. McCain would likely have not gotten us into Iraq, I agree. But he supported Bush in his attempts to go into Iraq, making it easier for Bush to go in, and thus I will vote for his opponant.
 
Ill also vote for Obama because McCain would cement the bad direction the Supreme Court has taken.
 
Damocles said:
So far I like the direction the SCOTUS is taking.
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I am okay with the recient decisions, but note how close the detanee rulings were, and who voted with the majority and who did not. One more like Bush's appointees and that would have come out differently.
 
Jarod said:
I am okay with the recient decisions, but note how close the detanee rulings were, and who voted with the majority and who did not. One more like Bush's appointees and that would have come out differently.
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Without it, two of the most recent rulings never would have been. I like it just where it is at. Truth tell I was a fan of the detainee ruling as well.
 
Damocles said:
Without it, two of the most recent rulings never would have been. I like it just where it is at. Truth tell I was a fan of the detainee ruling as well.
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I dont mind it where it currently is, however it is at a tipping point on some important issues, and do not want it to tip the way it would with McCain.
 
Solitary said:
Armed people on Dale Mabry? I'm gonna sit on the overpass with a Barrett .50 cal and take out the bad drivers. Shouldn't take more than a few cases of ammo and a week or two.
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My my you are an optimist ;)

Might need a chain gun.
and a few tons of ammo.
 
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