Obama picks Sotomayor for Supreme Court -- bye bye Republican Party

First, you're wrong. I raised questions about Uncle Remus and I'm not now or then a democrat.

Alberto Gonzalez?

Are you serious?

In hindisght, NO ONE whou approve of him as AG.

He has about as much credibility as Dick Cheney, the asswipe of the entire planet.
I note a complete lack of reason and facts in your post, but lots and lots of hate.
 
I note a complete lack of reason and facts in your post, but lots and lots of hate.

You're a southerner dude.

Why would I give a fuck about what you see as hate?

You didn't recognize the reasoning because you're a southerner. Intelligence is not a product developed or celebrated in the south.
 
You're a southerner dude.

Why would I give a fuck about what you see as hate?

You didn't recognize the reasoning because you're a southerner. Intelligence is not a product developed or celebrated in the south.

Your regional bigotry rears its ugly head in full glory for all to see once again. How truly glorious!

Still lacking reason and logic as well. :)
 
Your regional bigotry rears its ugly head in full glory for all to see once again. How truly glorious!

Still lacking reason and logic as well. :)

Reason and logic is Alberto "I don't recall remembering" Gonzales in the non-human world you exist in.

I have no understanding of that kind of mindless "logic" .. nor does the vast majority of the nation.
 
It is valid in that you are indeed pulling out one portion of her comments and pretending there were no others.

"Whether born from experience or inherent physiological or cultural differences, a possibility I abhor less or discount less than my colleague Judge Cedarbaum, our gender and national origins may and will make a difference in our judging. Justice [Sandra Day] O’Connor has often been cited as saying that a wise old man and wise old woman will reach the same conclusion in deciding cases…I am also not so sure that I agree with the statement. First, as Professor [Martha] Minnow has noted, there can never be a universal definition of wise. Second, I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experience would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life. "


Now I know you want to see racism in that bolded portion, but given her comments prior to that portion I would disagree. I think she is trying to say that people are not going to be as clear cut as O'Connor stated. That they are going to be effected by what has occured over the course of their lives. That she hopes she would be better at dealing with issues that were a part of her life and not a part of a white mans. My guess is that she is alluding to the fact that she is hispanic and obviously female. That issues of discrimination/racism most likely are not going to be viewed the same by a person who has lived it vs. a person who typically has only read about it or experienced it second hand.

how can you not see the racism and stupidity of her comment? i guess she has no business making judgements about "white" issues as she has not lived that life.....that you would defend her is perplexing. i can only imagine if a white person said what she said...she and YOU are saying that in order to judge on the scotus, one need to have personally experienced something in order to be "better" at dealing with the issues before them.

personally experiencing something does not make someone a better judge.
 
how can you not see the racism and stupidity of her comment? i guess she has no business making judgements about "white" issues as she has not lived that life.....that you would defend her is perplexing. i can only imagine if a white person said what she said...she and YOU are saying that in order to judge on the scotus, one need to have personally experienced something in order to be "better" at dealing with the issues before them.


Race consciousness is not racism.

If a white person said what she said I personally would he quite relieved to hear it, particularly a white male. White males generally tend to ignore the fact that their experiences are colored by the fact that they are white and male, instead believing that they are 100% objective, unswayed and unmoved by their whiteness and maleness.

The reason that this quote from Sotomayer touches a nerve is that it exposes the fiction of the "objective white male."
 
Race consciousness is not racism.

If a white person said what she said I personally would he quite relieved to hear it, particularly a white male. White males generally tend to ignore the fact that their experiences are colored by the fact that they are white and male, instead believing that they are 100% objective, unswayed and unmoved by their whiteness and maleness.

The reason that this quote from Sotomayer touches a nerve is that it exposes the fiction of the "objective white male."

Surely you're not suggesting that white males don't know what's best for everybody.

I support the right making that a theme for their attacks on Sotomayer.

"We don't need no stinkin' hispanic opinion, white men know what's best for everybody .. and anything else is racist"

That is essentially the crux of their argument.
 
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personally experiencing something does not make someone a better judge.

So if you were judging a cake-baking contest you'd pick a panel of people who'd never eaten cake?

(Yes, i know what you're thinking - damn, he should be on some serious news programme with burning questions such as this)
 
So if you were judging a cake-baking contest you'd pick a panel of people who'd never eaten cake?

(Yes, i know what you're thinking - damn, he should be on some serious news programme with burning questions such as this)

How would you find someone who has never eaten cake? And why would you want to know anyone who has never eaten cake? And why would no one ever eat cake?

I have more questions but they would just be icing on the (you guessed it) cake.
 
How would you find someone who has never eaten cake? And why would you want to know anyone who has never eaten cake? And why would no one ever eat cake?

I have more questions but they would just be icing on the (you guessed it) cake.

By right-wing "logic" shouldn't you be picking people who don't like cake?

Picking somene ho has never eaten it is risky .. they might like it.

The only "fair" way to judge the cake-eating contest is to pick someone who doesn't like cake, then let their ideology determine who wins.
 
By right-wing "logic" shouldn't you be picking people who don't like cake?

Picking somene ho has never eaten it is risky .. they might like it.

The only "fair" way to judge the cake-eating contest is to pick someone who doesn't like cake, then let their ideology determine who wins.

Good answer. But not nearly as much fun.
 
Surely you're not suggesting that white males don't know what's best for everybody.

I support the right making that a theme for their attacks on Sotomayer.

"We don't need no stinkin' hispanic opinion, white men know what's best for everybody .. and anything else is racist"

That is essentially the crux of their argument.

Do you think that the Hispanic opinion of the Constitution is different than the remainder of society? If so then you are a racist.
 
So if you were judging a cake-baking contest you'd pick a panel of people who'd never eaten cake?

(Yes, i know what you're thinking - damn, he should be on some serious news programme with burning questions such as this)

when they pick juries, more often than not they reject the juror who has personal experience with the issues being tried. it is called bias...your analogy, while decent, is incorrect in a legal setting.
 
Race consciousness is not racism.

If a white person said what she said I personally would he quite relieved to hear it, particularly a white male. White males generally tend to ignore the fact that their experiences are colored by the fact that they are white and male, instead believing that they are 100% objective, unswayed and unmoved by their whiteness and maleness.

The reason that this quote from Sotomayer touches a nerve is that it exposes the fiction of the "objective white male."

i've never heard of this objective white male....everyone is biased. being hispanic or white does not give anyone any special advantage in making judicial determinations....contra to sotomayor's opinion.
 
when they pick juries, more often than not they reject the juror who has personal experience with the issues being tried. it is called bias...your analogy, while decent, is incorrect in a legal setting.

Thanks for nothing, Yurt.

Bang goes a 10,000 word essay i wrote for The Law Society Gazette.
 
Do you think that the Hispanic opinion of the Constitution is different than the remainder of society? If so then you are a racist.

You calling someone racist is like the Elephant Man calling someone a freak.

Yes, I believe hispanics may well interpret the Constitution differently than some white dude in Buttfuck, Texas.

Blacks have a different interpretation of it .. so I must be racist .. in the noin-human world you exist in.
 
when they pick juries, more often than not they reject the juror who has personal experience with the issues being tried. it is called bias...your analogy, while decent, is incorrect in a legal setting.


But they don't do that for judges so your rejoinder, while a decent effort, is incorrect when it comes to judges.
 
I like this woman, she is the next Supreem Court Justice. I wish Obama would have picked someone more consistantly liberal... but she will make a great justice.

I predict Obama will get two more choices and I am looking forward to them both being more liberal than this pick.
 
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