I love your posts! They're like raw meat to a pack of starving hyenas. You can tell by some of the responses that they're not even reading the first post of the thread, just reflexively attacking the messenger.
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Poor TCL.....You just can't help but play the fool can you?
Projecting again, Bravo....when will you ever learn?
This clown was captured in 2004, in Pakistan, who the fuck do you think is responsible for that if not GW Bush..... Learn to read, you simpleton Bravo....No one was claiming otherwise....the thread I started was about the neocon GOP's idiotic claims that such a person could not be tried by US Federal law. Obviously, they were WRONG!
Learn to read? Really?....So some pinhead didn't post this?
"a hell of a lot more than Bush did for 8 years with all his Bill of Rights/Constitution BENDING actions"
Yet you weren't claiming Obama did more than Bush?
Maybe you ought to learn to read...I read exactly what is written.....
And exactly how long were those people to stay in Gitmo, you simpleton? Remember, the Shrub & company weren't setting any trial dates....and had released 500 detainees without rhyme or reason after YEARS. I didn't say the guy wasn't captured the Shrub....but compared to the royal fuck up of Gitmo, having a President who at least has a game plan of taking folk from Gitmo (without torturing them) to a FAIR trial is a hell of a lot more positive than what the Shrub did. You and your fellow syncophants said it couldn't be done. YOU were wrong, and you're too much of a neocon wuss to admit it.If this scumbag, was tried at a military tribunal, as he would have been under Bush, he'd wouldn't be looking at a chance of parole in 10 years, assuming he is sentenced to 20 years.... Once again, Bravo....you substitute your supposition and conjecture for historical fact. The reality was that this joker was in the Shrub's Gitmo limbo for YEARS...at the expense of the US taxpayer. So after much hem and haw, (and a release of a few hundred detainees with NO explanation), the American public is finally seeing justice done...in an American court system...just like Clinton did with the Blind Sheik and his rabble. Again, more than the Shrub and his cronies did.
If Democrats weren't bitching and whining about military tribunals for Bushs entire Presidency, he would have seen a firing squad by now....now he dodges 200+ charges and gets convicted on 1....
Really? And you base this on what, wishful thinking? Wise up, you little Bravo stupe...the Shrub and company cut loose 500 people after years of interrogation and God knows what else. And it seems that relying on testimony to derived through torture isn't exactly truth, justice and the American way, now is it bunky? Bottom line, Ghailani has to do 20 years BEFORE he's eligible for parole.....I don't know where you neocon assholes get this "off in ten" BS. His sentence is MANDATORY 20 years to life "WITHOUT PAROLE". It'll be 20 years before he gets out IF the courts decide not to push it for another 20 or life. If you've got a transcript of the sentence that says different, produce it. If not, quit babbling Bravo nonsense.
OH...look....the very next line a pinhead writes and don't know what it even means
A hell of a lot more than Bush accomplished in 8 years....indeed....what a pinhead you remain....it must suck to be a total asshole like you.
Inadmissable evidence? to prevent that we just won't have any more civilian trials for terrorist enemy combatants...
See my responses above folks....Bravo isn't the brightest bulb on the tree, and continually yells, "pinhead" when all he's got is a repreat of his already disproven assertions and beliefs. Bravo believes he has a "win", when all he's got is just mental flatulance that lingers.
What the hell are you babbling about? The reality is that this joker was tried, convicted and sentenced. Period. The Shrub & company COULD NOT OR WOULD NOT do this. Deal with or don't, the reality is there and won't change.
You're finally right on this count...."The Shrub and company COULD NOT"
All because of Democrats ......
No stupid, BECAUSE OF THE CONSTITUTION AND BILL OF RIGHTS, WHICH DOES NOT GRANT THE PRESIDENT OR THE MILITARY TO TRY AND CONVICT PRISONERS OF WAR BASED ON TESTIMONY DERIVED VIA TORTURE.
Notice, Gitmo REMAINS OPEN AND ACTIVE as will be when Obama moves back to Chicago in 2012
Notice.....a successful trial that you want to ignore, a protest by Dem and progressive and liberal and Republican voters to close Gitmo that you ignore.....more wishful thinking that's goaded by Fox News/NewsMax/World Net Daily/Clear Channel/Murdoch/various neocon pundits.
You're pathetic Bravo....only a true neocon asshole would bitch about a 20 to life sentence of a terrorist conspirator because it happened on Obama's watch.
a minimum 20 years of imprisonment, and a possible life sentence
Once again Bravo, your surpass previous display of stupidity.Well, now that you've read it, you might get someone to explain it to you....
I get my information by reading more than one news source, you blithering bumpkin! Of course, you're so intellectually dishonest that you lie about where you get your information for your fantastic and preposterous assertions.
Here stupid, learn something:
http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showpost.php?p=734217&postcount=28
Yes, they do. According to the rulings of the SCOTUS and the laws passed that allow for them different standards apply in the tribunals and they allow for such testimony. And Bush's GITMO most certainly did exist when Obama was a Senator. You do realize he was a Senator all the way up until he took the Oath of office for the Executive branch, right?
Yes, they do. According to the rulings of the SCOTUS and the laws passed that allow for them different standards apply in the tribunals and they allow for such testimony. And Bush's GITMO most certainly did exist when Obama was a Senator. You do realize he was a Senator all the way up until he took the Oath of office for the Executive branch, right?
No shit, sherlock....which goes to show how incredibly fucked up the Shrub and jokers like you who support him are....because that puts this country right on par with the countries that use to have "witnesses" wearing disguises to come into court to indentify the accused. McCain was tortured, he signed a "confession" so according to you and the Shrub's minions, McCain is a legit traitor posing as a GOP Senator!
As I said, thank God cooler heads prevailed.
And I was not "proven wrong", that's idiotic. Clearly he could have applied these tribunals that he voted for and celebrated as a way for the GITMO detainees to have their rights protected. It's inane to say one was "proven wrong" on such verifiable facts.
Bravo is ONE insipidly stubborn neocon parrot.
That is absolutely hilarious....TCPinhead claims in post #28 that the sentence is "mandatory" (now correctly spelled)....and then wants to use that lie, to prove the same lie now, that its not a lie....And here folks, is why I call Bravo intellectually impotent. Faced with the FACTS that he is wrong, he just keeps trying to push his warped interpretation of the facts to suit his beliefs.
As post #28 shows, the 20 years sentence in MANADATORY....the defense is already trying to get it knocked down to 14 years with time served. Bravo REFUSES to accept the FACT that AFTER THE 20 year sentence, the secondary part of the sentence may carry a life sentence. Bravo doesn't understand that the "minimum" means 20 years is the LEAST amount he will spend time in jail. Neocon detractors have been carrying on that there's a possible parole after 10 years....but have YET to produce any statement from the courts that says so. Instead, the punditry suggest such, and Bravo jumps on it like a flea on a dogs butt.
Bravo's dumb folks...he'll just keep repeating his disproven contentions ad nauseum, ignoring all else.
That is absolutely hilarious....TCPinhead claims in post #28 that the sentence is "mandatory" (now correctly spelled)....and then wants to use that lie, to prove the same lie now, that its not a lie....
Its the old, "If you don't believe me, just ask me" routine.....
He actually thinks "minimum sentence" means "mandatory sentence".....
Now wonder hes here on JPP, he was probably laughed off AOL.....
That is absolutely hilarious....TCPinhead claims in post #28 that the sentence is "mandatory" (now correctly spelled)....and then wants to use that lie, to prove the same lie now, that its not a lie....
Its the old, "If you don't believe me, just ask me" routine.....
He actually thinks "minimum sentence" means "mandatory sentence".....
Now wonder hes here on JPP, he was probably laughed off AOL.....
