Obama opponents NEVER satisfied

Taichiliberal

Taichiliberal

Shaken, not stirred!
Well, the first civilian trial of an Al Qaeda affiliate suspect in the 1998 bombings of US embassies in Nairobi, Tanzania and Kenya is over. And out of 280 charges, Mr. Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani, 36, was found guilty of one. Conspiracy to destroy government property and buildings.

Outrageous, you say? Well, he's in for 20 years to life.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/18/nyregion/18ghailani.html

Now I know that emotions run high regarding all things related to Al Qaeda, but keep this in mind: This guy is going to do 20 YEARS before being considered for parole....how much you want to bet he's NOT going to get it?

A witness for the prosecution who says Ghailani received explosives and was more involved in the plot to attack the embassies was never heard by the jury because his testimomy was coerced (i.e., tortured), which is inadmissable in American court.

Now to prevent such things in the future...don't torture prisoners, and you have a better shot of faster trials with better sentencing because people wanted an execution sentence. So now the anti-Obama politicians and pundits are all screaming "Obama's civilian trials are a failure! He shames America's 9/11 victims, diminishes us in th eworld's eyes!"....which is interesesting being that the same detractors claimed that such trials could not happen on US soil due to the security risk. Welll, local residents and commuters were mostly unawares that such a trial was taking place in New York City!

So, we have a SAFE trial with a conviction....a hell of a lot more than Bush did for 8 years with all his Constitution/Bill of Rights bending actions. More to come, I'm sure.
 
never satisfied? what a hack thread title....and completely untrue...btw, can you remind me of one positive thing you've said about bush

this case reaks though:

The defendant, Ahmed Khulna Ghailani, 36, was convicted of one count of conspiracy to destroy government buildings and property. He was acquitted of four counts of conspiracy, including conspiring to kill Americans and to use weapons of mass destruction.
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They said the evidence showed that he helped to buy the Nissan Atlas truck that was used to carry the bomb, and gas tanks that were placed inside the truck to intensify the blast. He also stored an explosive detonator in an armoire he used, and his cellphone became the “operational phone” for the plotters before the attacks, prosecutors contended.
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The attacks, orchestrated by Al Qaeda, killed 224 people, including 12 Americans, and injured thousands of others.
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how in the hell does he not get found guilty of conspiring to kill people and use wmd's?

if obama could have tried him in a military court, but instead chose the civilian court system, then obama fucked up and explains this:

Throughout the case, Mr. Ghailani seemed at ease with his lawyers, smiling frequently. After the verdict was read, he hugged them warmly.
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Poor TCL.....You just can't help but play the fool can you?

This clown was captured in 2004, in Pakistan, who the fuck do you think is responsible for that if not GW Bush.....
If this scumbag, was tried at a military tribunal, as he would have been under Bush, he'd wouldn't be looking at a chance of parole in 10 years, assuming he is sentenced to 20 years....
A hell of a lot more than Bush accomplished in 8 years....indeed....what a pinhead you remain....it must suck to be a total asshole like you.
Inadmissable evidence? to prevent that we just won't have any more civilian trials for terrorist enemy combatants...

Notice, Gitmo REMAINS OPEN AND ACTIVE as will be when Obama moves back to Chicago in 2012
 
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bravo said:
Poor TCL.....You just can't help but play the fool can you?

This clown was captured in 2004, in Pakistan, who the fuck do you think is responsible for that if not GW Bush.....
If this scumbag, was tried at a military tribunal, as he would have been under Bush, he'd wouldn't be looking at a chance of parole in 10 years, assuming he is sentenced to 20 years....
A hell of a lot more than Bush accomplished in 8 years....indeed....what a pinhead you remain....it must suck to be a total asshole like you.
Inadmissable evidence? to prevent that we just won't have any more civilian trials for terrorist enemy combatants...

Notice, Gitmo REMAINS OPEN AND ACTIVE as will be when Obama moves back to Chicago in 2012
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Great stuff. Round up all the Pakis and blacks and browns and yellows and commies and socialists and liberals and those who have never been in the millie-dairy and let's KEELHAUL the bastards. If any survive we'll slice them into pieces and feed them to the navy with nice organic veggies and real tasty gravy then lock 'em up forever in an american gaol in a foreign country.
Yeah, you friggin stoopid skate, lets do it.
 
Lowaicue said:
Great stuff. Round up all the Pakis and blacks and browns and yellows and commies and socialists and liberals and those who have never been in the millie-dairy and let's KEELHAUL the bastards. If any survive we'll slice them into pieces and feed them to the navy with nice organic veggies and real tasty gravy then lock 'em up forever in an american gaol in a foreign country.
Yeah, you friggin stoopid skate, lets do it.
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Probably won't have to go though all of that....if you're on the field of battle as an enemy combatant (no matter what fuckin' color you are, or what your politics is), your chances of being captured and given a vacation in Gitmo with clean sheets, and clean clothes, and 3 squares a day plus free healthcare are limited....you're more likely to get a bullet in the forehead...in the heat of battle of course......no muss, no fuss....

But then, cowards like you that never served don't get and never will....
 
bravo said:
Probably won't have to go though all of that....if you're on the field of battle as an enemy combatant (no matter what fuckin' color you are, or what your politics is), your chances of being captured and given a vacation in Gitmo with clean sheets, and clean clothes, and 3 squares a day plus free healthcare are limited....you're more likely to get a bullet in the forehead...in the heat of battle of course......no muss, no fuss....

But then, cowards like you that never served don't get and never will....
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and how should a 'coward like me' serve and in what?
 
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bravo said:
Poor TCL.....You just can't help but play the fool can you?

Projecting again, Bravo....when will you ever learn?

This clown was captured in 2004, in Pakistan, who the fuck do you think is responsible for that if not GW Bush..... Learn to read, you simpleton Bravo....No one was claiming otherwise....the thread I started was about the neocon GOP's idiotic claims that such a person could not be tried by US Federal law. Obviously, they were WRONG!If this scumbag, was tried at a military tribunal, as he would have been under Bush, he'd wouldn't be looking at a chance of parole in 10 years, assuming he is sentenced to 20 years.... Once again, Bravo....you substitute your supposition and conjecture for historical fact. The reality was that this joker was in the Shrub's Gitmo limbo for YEARS...at the expense of the US taxpayer. So after much hem and haw, (and a release of a few hundred detainees with NO explanation), the American public is finally seeing justice done...in an American court system...just like Clinton did with the Blind Sheik and his rabble. Again, more than the Shrub and his cronies did.A hell of a lot more than Bush accomplished in 8 years....indeed....what a pinhead you remain....it must suck to be a total asshole like you.
Inadmissable evidence? to prevent that we just won't have any more civilian trials for terrorist enemy combatants...

What the hell are you babbling about? The reality is that this joker was tried, convicted and sentenced. Period. The Shrub & company COULD NOT OR WOULD NOT do this. Deal with or don't, the reality is there and won't change.
Notice, Gitmo REMAINS OPEN AND ACTIVE as will be when Obama moves back to Chicago in 2012
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Notice: you once again just can't accept the reality of yet another Shrub lie being disproven.

Notice: Gitmo will be a mark against Obama in 2012....and exactly who has the GOP chosen to run against him again? :)
 
bravo said:
Probably won't have to go though all of that....if you're on the field of battle as an enemy combatant (no matter what fuckin' color you are, or what your politics is), your chances of being captured and given a vacation in Gitmo with clean sheets, and clean clothes, and 3 squares a day plus free healthcare are limited....you're more likely to get a bullet in the forehead...in the heat of battle of course......no muss, no fuss....

But then, cowards like you that never served don't get and never will....
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Problem was that a very large portion of the Gitmo detainees were turned in by jokers looking to collect the bounty....which resulted in amateurs rounding up rival tribesmen, people they had a grudge against, and anyone who fit the description. The result: After several years 500 people were released with no explanation or apologies.....I wonder if they were a little annoyed at America for costing them their livlihood and/or families and started chatting up Al Qaeda reps?

Bottom line: The Gop wailed like banshee's that a civil trial would be detrimental to America, etc., etc. They were WRONG. Grow the hell up and deal with it, you impotent neocon Bravado.
 
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Probably won't have to go though all of that....if you're on the field of battle as an enemy combatant (no matter what fuckin' color you are, or what your politics is), your chances of being captured and given a vacation in Gitmo with clean sheets, and clean clothes, and 3 squares a day plus free healthcare are limited....you're more likely to get a bullet in the forehead...in the heat of battle of course......no muss, no fuss....

But then, cowards like you that never served don't get and never will....
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Lowaicue said:
and how should a 'coward like me' serve and in what?
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puh-leeze don't follow this Bravo buffoon's tangents....it's a typical neocon ploy when they can't deal with being proved wrong on a major talking point.
 
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Poor TCL.....You just can't help but play the fool can you?

Projecting again, Bravo....when will you ever learn?

This clown was captured in 2004, in Pakistan, who the fuck do you think is responsible for that if not GW Bush..... Learn to read, you simpleton Bravo....No one was claiming otherwise....the thread I started was about the neocon GOP's idiotic claims that such a person could not be tried by US Federal law. Obviously, they were WRONG!

Learn to read? Really?....So some pinhead didn't post this?

"a hell of a lot more than Bush did for 8 years with all his Bill of Rights/Constitution BENDING actions"
Yet you weren't claiming Obama did more than Bush?
Maybe you ought to learn to read...I read exactly what is written.....


If this scumbag, was tried at a military tribunal, as he would have been under Bush, he'd wouldn't be looking at a chance of parole in 10 years, assuming he is sentenced to 20 years.... Once again, Bravo....you substitute your supposition and conjecture for historical fact. The reality was that this joker was in the Shrub's Gitmo limbo for YEARS...at the expense of the US taxpayer. So after much hem and haw, (and a release of a few hundred detainees with NO explanation), the American public is finally seeing justice done...in an American court system...just like Clinton did with the Blind Sheik and his rabble. Again, more than the Shrub and his cronies did.

If Democrats weren't bitching and whining about military tribunals for Bushs entire Presidency, he would have seen a firing squad by now....now he dodges 200+ charges and gets convicted on 1....

OH...look....the very next line a pinhead writes and don't know what it even means

A hell of a lot more than Bush accomplished in 8 years....indeed....what a pinhead you remain....it must suck to be a total asshole like you.
Inadmissable evidence? to prevent that we just won't have any more civilian trials for terrorist enemy combatants...

What the hell are you babbling about? The reality is that this joker was tried, convicted and sentenced. Period. The Shrub & company COULD NOT OR WOULD NOT do this. Deal with or don't, the reality is there and won't change.

You're finally right on this count...."The Shrub and company COULD NOT"
All because of Democrats ......


Notice, Gitmo REMAINS OPEN AND ACTIVE as will be when Obama moves back to Chicago in 2012
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Outrageous, you say? Well, he's in for 20 years to life.
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Yeah, 20 years for conspiracy, with a change for parole in 10.... that's about the liberals speed for someone who was responsible for killing over 500 Americans who worked in those embassies, in a most brutal and heinous terror bombing.

Yep... I DO say Outrageous!
 
the thread I started was about the neocon GOP's idiotic claims that such a person could not be tried by US Federal law. Obviously, they were WRONG!
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Let me ask you something, Chicklet? What planet do you live on, and what are they smoking there, where this trial is some kind of great example of how civilian courts are better than military tribunals? The guy all but WALKED on the charges because much of the evidence had to be tossed out! This will certainly be the case in every one of these trials. Terrorists responsible for brutally murdering American citizens, getting little slaps on the wrist from jelly-spined liberal appeasers. While you parade around acting like this is just wonderful!
 
We could also use the laws that allow for military tribunals, you know the ones Obama voted for as Senator, he would have been convicted of far more of the counts.
 
Taichiliberal said:
puh-leeze don't follow this Bravo buffoon's tangents....it's a typical neocon ploy when they can't deal with being proved wrong on a major talking point.
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I know. But sometimes there is just 'nothing' on TV and one needs a smile now and then.
 
Taichiliberal said:
puh-leeze don't follow this Bravo buffoon's tangents....it's a typical neocon ploy when they can't deal with being proved wrong on a major talking point.
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I love your posts! They're like raw meat to a pack of starving hyenas. You can tell by some of the responses that they're not even reading the first post of the thread, just reflexively attacking the messenger. :good4u:
 
Dixie said:
Let me ask you something, Chicklet? What planet do you live on, and what are they smoking there, where this trial is some kind of great example of how civilian courts are better than military tribunals? The guy all but WALKED on the charges because much of the evidence had to be tossed out! This will certainly be the case in every one of these trials. Terrorists responsible for brutally murdering American citizens, getting little slaps on the wrist from jelly-spined liberal appeasers. While you parade around acting like this is just wonderful!
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Only a pure revisionist joker like Dixie would call 20 years to life "little slaps on the wrist...."

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Dixie has just proven the point of my thread title, folks......and the absurd sour grapes he and his ilk have spewed on this board are testiment of how their irrational and ignorant hatred of Obama exposes their callous disregard for American security and integrity.

Note to Dixie: YOU, CHENEY, RUMSFELD, GINGRICH, ALL THAT SAILED WITH THE SHRUB, ALL THE FOX NEWS PUNDITS, ALL THE CLEAR CHANNEL, MURDOCH, REV. MOON NEOCON TOADIES WHERE PROVEN WRONG. PERIOD. So grow up and deal with reality or continue to whine like a frustrated little Dixie bitch.
 
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