Obama=Liar & Puts american soldiers lives at risk

Southern Man said:
Poking 1000 guys up the ass in the age of HIV certainly does make them unstable.
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Dumb.

Again, "poking" women they meet in bars during the age of HIV would make them "unstable" by this standard. It's the stupidest standard ever to measure the worth of a soldier.
 
Southern Man said:
No I don't, but it uncommon enough for 1000 to be a celebrity sensation. Nice strawman. :)
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It is not a strawman you retard.... YOU stated 'is Will 28% of the population'... to which I replied... 'do you really think he is the only one' meaning.... there are others like him. It was a direct response to your statement.

If you don't know what a strawman is.... look it up. Then perhaps the next time you won't look so foolish.
 
All of this is moot. If I were elected President, I would issue an order to integrate this segment of society into the military. I thought that Bill Clinton only showed he had no balls when he backed out of that and turned it into "don't ask, don't tell" whereby good soldiers are under suspicion, sometimes lose clearances they could have held as civilians, all because of this inane rule.
 
Damocles said:
Yes, and I pointed out that the actual "sources" are paid for by groups like "Orthodoxy Today", and how the "study" was flawed to begin with.

And I made no such claim, I said that they divorce more often than other sectors of society because the men are often promiscuous, I never laid claim (like this "study") of any specific number. Bragging is not evidence.

Again, unmarried men being promiscuous does not make them mentally unstable. It just makes them guys.
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You didn't point out anything- you merely accused. Please provide links to back up your baseless accusation: explaining how the at least 8 different researchers with the five different reports dating back to the late 70's were all paid off by "orthodoxy Today".

Then you can explain to me how you'd consider anyone whose had 1000 different sexual partners to be stable, regardless of orientation. These people are either prostitutes or addicts, and therefore not suitable candidates for the military.
 
Damocles said:
Dumb.

Again, "poking" women they meet in bars during the age of HIV would make them "unstable" by this standard. It's the stupidest standard ever to measure the worth of a soldier.
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Yes it would, especially if they were poking the women up the ass.
 
Superfreak said:
It is not a strawman you retard.... YOU stated 'is Will 28% of the population'... to which I replied... 'do you really think he is the only one' meaning.... there are others like him. It was a direct response to your statement.

If you don't know what a strawman is.... look it up. Then perhaps the next time you won't look so foolish.
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Apparently you don't understand the meaning of "strawman" yourself. And your posts are so confused it is difficult for me to respond- its like arguing with a 5th grader.
 
Damocles said:
All of this is moot. If I were elected President, I would issue an order to integrate this segment of society into the military. I thought that Bill Clinton only showed he had no balls when he backed out of that and turned it into "don't ask, don't tell" whereby good soldiers are under suspicion, sometimes lose clearances they could have held as civilians, all because of this inane rule.
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So you'd make a shitty CIC subverting the will of your generals. Maybe this would be the last straw and they'd pull a coup and ship you and all the pansies off to some island somewhere.
 
I just have to say that, after perusing the thread for a little while, i now feel confident in advising my female friends and acquaintances that if they're looking for a holiday destination where they are assured of not having to deal with the constant annoyance of being "poked up the ass", by immoral gentlemen, then the South is definitely THE place to go.

And despite what you may have seen in 'Deliverance' you probably won't even get your banjo fingered either.
 
charver said:
I just have to say that, after perusing the thread for a little while, i now feel confident in advising my female friends and acquaintances that if they're looking for a holiday destination where they are assured of not having to deal with the constant annoyance of being "poked up the ass", by immoral gentlemen, then the South is definitely THE place to go.

And despite what you may have seen in 'Deliverance' you probably won't even get your banjo fingered either.
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LOL Limey gets his view of The South from a Hollywood Movie.
 
Southern Man said:
You didn't point out anything- you merely accused. Please provide links to back up your baseless accusation: explaining how the at least 8 different researchers with the five different reports dating back to the late 70's were all paid off by "orthodoxy Today".

Then you can explain to me how you'd consider anyone whose had 1000 different sexual partners to be stable, regardless of orientation. These people are either prostitutes or addicts, and therefore not suitable candidates for the military.
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I pointed out, you refused to look at what was pointed at.

There is a reason that you find the link on "Orthodoxy Today" and not on "Science Today", or another credible source, it is because the study does not meet peer review.

And lastly, I do not believe that promiscuity among a group of unmarried men is a measure of "unstable" it simply is what guys do when they are cannot marry, are rejected by society and religion, and like other guys rather than women who are sometimes more careful about partners.

I don't believe that having sex makes them "unstable" in a way that would effect their performance as soldiers. Can they shoot straight? Do they perform well at the needed tasks? In almost every case decorated men and women who have performed admirably are the ones we lose.
 
Southern Man said:
Apparently you don't understand the meaning of "strawman" yourself. And your posts are so confused it is difficult for me to respond- its like arguing with a 5th grader.
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You truly are a moron. An example of a strawman would be if I were to create an argument that you had not made, pretend that you had made it, then I would debate that argument so that I could knock it down.

Which is clearly NOT what occured when you just suggested it. My response was a direct response to YOUR ACTUAL comment.

As for following along with my posts, something tells me you are the only one whose ignorance doesn't allow him to comprehend. Unless of course Toppy stops by, then you would have company.
 
Damocles said:
I pointed out, you refused to look at what was pointed at.

There is a reason that you find the link on "Orthodoxy Today" and not on "Science Today", or another credible source, it is because the study does not meet peer review.

And lastly, I do not believe that promiscuity among a group of unmarried men is a measure of "unstable" it simply is what guys do when they are cannot marry, are rejected by society and religion, and like other guys rather than women who are sometimes more careful about partners.

I don't believe that having sex makes them "unstable" in a way that would effect their performance as soldiers. Can they shoot straight? Do they perform well at the needed tasks? In almost every case decorated men and women who have performed admirably are the ones we lose.
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I read your entire post and you accused the source as biased while ignoring the fact that there were five sources, at least 8 different researchers, and the sources date back to 1978. So you can attack "Orthodoxy Today" all you like but that's not the source of the data. *shrug*

And again, we're not talking simply promiscuity but up to 28% of a group poking over 1000 different men up the ass in the age of HIV. I wouldn't hire anyone who did that, gay or not.
 
Southern Man said:
So you'd make a shitty CIC subverting the will of your generals. Maybe this would be the last straw and they'd pull a coup and ship you and all the pansies off to some island somewhere.
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AGAIN.... you fail to realize that this same dumbshit argument was used when they first integrated black men into the military. The 'you can't put THEM in the military, it would all go to hell'.

This 'subverting the will of your generals' is just bullshit from close minded simpletons like you.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27774058/

OOPS.... there goes that theory....
 
Damocles said:
I heard that there are no gay people in Iran too.
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Obviously.

Those in the know are well aware of the CIA's use of homosexuality ions, embedded in Korans, dropped from stealth bombers in the Iranian heartlands. However the Great Satan's tricks will not work against the power of the Ayatollah's prayers magnified by a thousand magnificent minarets. Fools.
 
Southern Man said:
I read your entire post and you accused the source as biased while ignoring the fact that there were five sources, at least 8 different researchers, and the sources date back to 1978. So you can attack "Orthodoxy Today" all you like but that's not the source of the data. *shrug*

And again, we're not talking simply promiscuity but up to 28% of a group poking over 1000 different men up the ass in the age of HIV. I wouldn't hire anyone who did that, gay or not.
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Lets try a different line of thought, since you are so hung up on the 28%.

What about the other 72%? Would you hire them? Can they serve in the military? Or are you going to hold them accountable for the actions of the 28%?
 
Superfreak said:
You truly are a moron. An example of a strawman would be if I were to create an argument that you had not made, pretend that you had made it, then I would debate that argument so that I could knock it down...
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Actually a strawman is to create a "caricature or extreme form" of my argument, then arguing that, which is clearly what you have attempted. Please read and understand these definitions before you use them to avoid looking so foolish. http://www.csun.edu/~dgw61315/fallacies.html#Straw man
 
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