Obama legal fees rumor debunked by Politifact

bravo said:
Looks like the conclusion of any fair analysis of the npr's facts should be.....they don't know for sure either
Whatever the amount, it was a waste of money,...either his own, or the salary's paid to government lawyers....
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True that. A definite waste of money. It's bizarre.
 
bravo said:
Looks like the conclusion of any fair analysis of the npr's facts should be.....they don't know for sure either
Whatever the amount, it was a waste of money,...either his own, or the salary's paid to government lawyers....
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Don't retreat, reload!
 
bravo said:
Looks like the conclusion of any fair analysis of the npr's facts should be.....they don't know for sure either
I too believe the figure cited by wnd is unrealistic and based solely on the total paid to the law firm....
Whatever the amount, it was a waste of money,...either his own, or the salary's paid to government lawyers....
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This has nothing to do with NPR. I don't know what you're talking about. This whole business shows just how quickly Obama detractors will glom onto any bogus claim by the WorldNut crew and run with it, facts be damned.

"We contacted Trump's office to find out where he got the number, but we did not receive a response."

How telling. Trump was out there for weeks, selling that bogus snake oil about the BC and demanding to see the original, but he won't produce any info to justify his comments.

Four campaign-finance experts we interviewed all agreed that after the campaign was over, a law firm in Perkins Coie’s situation would have a full plate of legal work to do that had nothing to do with birth certificate questions. Two of the experts who took this position have represented Republicans...

Take note. Even two republicans, i.e. from the opposition party, can't corroborate the $2 million.

"Federal attorneys are paid a salary by the taxpayers, and they do not charge their "client" -- in this case, the president -- fees for representation. If these attorneys weren't working on birth certificate cases, they'd be working on some other case for the same salary."

You claim it's a waste of money paid to government lawyers, yet that's why their salary is being paid, to handle any and all cases, even frivolous ones launched by conspiracy theorists.

"When fact-checking, we think the onus is on the person making the claim to back up his statement. And the only backing we've seen in this case is that the Obama campaign's legal team spent more than $2 million on legal fees since the election ended. It's clear to us that the WND story has been twisted to wrongly assume that every dollar the Obama campaign spent on legal fees went to fight the release of Obama's birth certificate. The evidence shows that's simply not true."

If Trump, Palin, the WorldNuts, etc. can't back up their allegations with fact, then I can't be bothered to take them seriously.
 
christiefan915 said:
This has nothing to do with NPR. I don't know what you're talking about. This whole business shows just how quickly Obama detractors will glom onto any bogus claim by the WorldNut crew and run with it, facts be damned.
Thats the point, the facts are questionable.....both sides "facts".....
Nice nit-pic....I stand corrected...your sig distracted me....POLITIFACT it is...

"We contacted Trump's office to find out where he got the number, but we did not receive a response."

How telling. Trump was out there for weeks, selling that bogus snake oil about the BC and demanding to see the original, but he won't produce any info to justify his comments.

Four campaign-finance experts we interviewed all agreed that after the campaign was over, a law firm in Perkins Coie’s situation would have a full plate of legal work to do that had nothing to do with birth certificate questions. Two of the experts who took this position have represented Republicans...

Take note. Even two republicans, i.e. from the opposition party, can't corroborate the $2 million.

Exactly....thats the reason for my conclusion....the conclusion of any fair analysis of the politifacts facts should be.....they don't know for sure either

"Federal attorneys are paid a salary by the taxpayers, and they do not charge their "client" -- in this case, the president -- fees for representation. If these attorneys weren't working on birth certificate cases, they'd be working on some other case for the same salary."

You claim it's a waste of money paid to government lawyers, yet that's why their salary is being paid, to handle any and all cases, even frivolous ones launched by conspiracy theorists.

Yes, a waste of money....this bogus bullshit should never have happened....Obama could have stopped it in 2008 without spending a dime...of his own money or the governments no matter what the number is....
I'm sure those government lawyers had better issues to work on besides this un-necessary crap...

"When fact-checking, we think the onus is on the person making the claim to back up his statement. And the only backing we've seen in this case is that the Obama campaign's legal team spent more than $2 million on legal fees since the election ended. It's clear to us that the WND story has been twisted to wrongly assume that every dollar the Obama campaign spent on legal fees went to fight the release of Obama's birth certificate. The evidence shows that's simply not true."

If Trump, Palin, the WorldNuts, etc. can't back up their allegations with fact, then I can't be bothered to take them seriously.

And when we have conclusions like you posted, " they can't corroborate the $2 million. figure , "

it should mean exactly that....the data is inconclusive for anyone to back up their allegations...so I can take NEITHER seriously....
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christiefan915 said:
When fact-checking, we think the onus is on the person making the claim to back up his statement. And the only backing we've seen in this case is that the Obama campaign's legal team spent more than $2 million on legal fees since the election ended. It's clear to us that the WND story has been twisted to wrongly assume that every dollar the Obama campaign spent on legal fees went to fight the release of Obama's birth certificate. The evidence shows that's simply not true.
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Is the irony lost on everyone except me here? What is the evidence? What was $2 million spent on?

If its taxpayer money than we deserve to know.
 
Damn Yankee said:
Is the irony lost on everyone except me here? What is the evidence? What was $2 million spent on?

If its taxpayer money than we deserve to know.
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If it is campaign funds spent for personal legal defense, we deserve to know. Other than that, not so much. Since it wasn't taxpayer money.
 
Seems like you could find out if taxpayer funds were spent "hiding" Obama's birth certificate, if you really cared. So I'm guessing...
 
¯¯¯̿̿¯̿̿’̿̿̿̿̿̿̿’̿̿’̿̿;808165 said:
Translation:

The GOP frontrunner is a proven liar and laughingstock. Let's change the subject.
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Damn right......anyone that says, "lets see the birth certificate" is a liar ?....I think........(but don't ask me what the lie is....):palm::confused:
 
Poor Bravo-Birther. Read the OP again.

Anyone who says Obama spent over $2 million to hide his birth certificate is a liar.

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¯¯¯̿̿¯̿̿’̿̿̿̿̿̿̿’̿̿’̿̿;808165 said:
Translation:

The GOP frontrunner is a proven liar and laughingstock. Let's change the subject.
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There's actually quite a good article on this claim at Huffpo.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/12/trumps-polls-reality-check_n_848043.html

At this point, so early in the election, the republicans are a fickle bunch. Trump, however, enjoys the highest unfavorability rating among all the candidates, closely followed by Palin among republicans. It is very unlikely that Trump will be the nominee. The question is will he be foolish enough to run as an Independent when he loses the Primaries... It's possible, I guess...
 
¯¯¯̿̿¯̿̿’̿̿̿̿̿̿̿’̿̿’̿̿;808183 said:
Poor Bravo-Birther. Read the OP again.

Anyone who says Obama spent over $2 million to hide his birth certificate is a liar.

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What if they used the more accurate statement that "some people claim he spent as much as"? Would it simply be reporting a truth, or would it depend on the political lean of the person reporting it?
 
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