Sammy Jankis
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Islam is a murderous ideology. You people who think you're intelligent and enlightened for being stupid about it are ..... just stupid.
Obama has not said he belives this Mosque should be build in this spot...
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Just stop it. The idea that it is a "murderous ideology" is so backward - I find it embarassing that someone would even say that. There is a radical element to Islam, and that's it.
If it was a "murderous ideology," we wouldn't be able to keep up with the death rate in the world; we'd be extinct in no time. Do you know how many Muslims there are worldwide?
Dixie - In Memoriam
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Onzies, you picked a real winner of a religion to start believing in, that's all I can say!
You're such a fool. I'm a Christian, Dix - many liberals are spiritual & many are religious. You're whole "theyzzz all godless - they is!" redneck rant is just so - well, redneck.
And, I would add, your thoughts toward one of the world's major religions are not ones I would associate with a "spirtiualist" (and certainly not to a Christian, which is what you used to call yourself).
So you are attacking him for thus far not taking a position on the issue?
That I understand....
I disagree with you because once it is clear that the Government is not allowed to take any action against them, why would his personal opinion matter?
In fact it could be a conflict of interests... If you have taken an oath to Protect and Defend the Constitution, then take a position contrary to what is required by the Constitution you have a conflict of interest.
If I had a Judge that told me, legally you are right and should win, but I disagree personally... Id be pretty upset about him administering the law in that case.
Good Christians, just loving their enemies and turning the other check, forgiving and showing they are Christians by their love!
Dixie - In Memoriam
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No Jarhead, I don't agree with the words Obama expressed, because the words expressed an acceptance and full support for a mosque at ground zero. I think that's why it's such an issue now. As we've pointed out to your stupid ass, the question of legality has never been at issue here. The ONLY debate, is whether or not this is the right thing to do, and Obama believes (as do you) that it IS the right thing to do, because he hasn't said it's NOT the right thing to do.
SmarterthanYou
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Dixie, I will ask you nicely to refrain from using the noble term 'jarhead' in conjuction with jarod. It's highly offensive to all of us Marines. thanks.
So, you are guessing, since he hasn't said and you just said so. In my opinion, he has stated the Presidential position and not his personal position which is how the Republicans usually believe it should be, I thought, but maybe your party has changed its position on these matters, like feelings, and sensitivity! and those things, being PC, the GOP hated being PC.
See Damo, Dixie does not agree that "Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as everyone else in this country"
The personal opinion of the President, whether he wants it to or not, holds a bit more water for many people than the opinion of those in other positions with less power. He is not the "judge", in fact nobody is in this case. Nobody argues that they cannot legally build the Mosque.
Often Presidents will take opinions on such issues because they understand this, in fact this President often takes positions on such things. An example would be what ended in the "Beer Summit"...
He seems ever so willing to take a controversial position, unless it actually matters to somebody. I personally don't give one whit about the "mosque"... I do however give advice, that in order to gain tolerance it is best to also practice it.
True, but the personal opinion should not always be shared.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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That's not what I said you fucking retard. Can you not read either?
No one has said Muslims don't have the right to practice their religion! No one has said they don't have the right to build a mosque at ground zero! The issue is, whether it is APPROPRIATE to do so! You want to wrap yourself in Freedom and the Constitution, and say that it IS APPROPRIATE, while I am saying it is NOT APPROPRIATE, in spite of it being legal and constitutional.
You said you disagree with the President... and thats all the President said... so logically you disagree...
Right?
"Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as everyone else in this country."
"That includes the right to build a place of worship and a community center on private property in lower Manhattan, in accordance with local laws and ordinances," he said. "This is America, and our commitment to religious freedom must be unshakable." - Barak Obama
Again, this President sees no problem using that platform on other controversial issues, it is his cowardice as he tries to avoid voicing his opinion on this one, yet was so willing to speak out on the subject, that surrounds him with false "controversy" on this issue.
Or, maybe he has learned from his past mistakes and that is a good thing!
I already explained this, some issues it is good for the president to express opinions.... On others he should not...
When his opinion is against the requirements of the Constitution that he has sworn to protect and defend... He should keep quiet.
"Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as everyone else in this country."
"That includes the right to build a place of worship and a community center on private property in lower Manhattan, in accordance with local laws and ordinances. This is America, and our commitment to religious freedom must be unshakable."
Obviously not. Had he learned from his past he would not have taken up the subject to begin with. His display of cowardice as he attempted to crawfish out of it without taking any position causes his problems today.