Obama has an idea about affirmative action

ib1yysguy

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Obama came out the other day and had some strong language about affirmative action and suggested making it needs based as opposed to race based.

What say ye?
 
great, so wtf is "needs" based.....

number of children, age, skin color....education....

if obama said this...he is a facking moron
 
great, so wtf is "needs" based.....

number of children, age, skin color....education....

if obama said this...he is a facking moron

It makes perfect sense. If someone grows up in rural Kansas and has slightly worse grades than the kid who went to private school, he should be considered because of the disadvantage given to him by his economic situation (or the advantage given to the private school kid by his).

Moving it away from race-based to needs-based makes very good sense.
 
It makes perfect sense. If someone grows up in rural Kansas and has slightly worse grades than the kid who went to private school, he should be considered because of the disadvantage given to him by his economic situation (or the advantage given to the private school kid by his).

Moving it away from race-based to needs-based makes very good sense.

so obama and you are for marxism....thanks for that
 
link....

so we can do away with obama is not for socialism, thanks for that

Jesus, you're fucking retarded.

Here's the link anyway: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jxGVbqM6U-ftwuhMRbsF0WdA9uLwD996ITH80

"I've always believed that affirmative action was less of an issue or should be less of an issue than it has been made out to be in news reports. It hasn't been as potent a force for racial progress as advocates will claim and it hasn't been as bad on white students seeking admissions or seeking a job as its critics say."

Guess I was reading into it too much regarding needs-based affirmative action. I got that from what I was hearing during the campaign.
 
you tell me...........:pke:

you already said yes

communism, marxism.....that is exactly what you and obama are advocating...socialism is but a sister of that idea, don't play stupid

Anyone with a brain bigger than a pea knows this isn't marxism. It's not worth my attention and risking derailing my thread over.

Guess Pell grants are socialism too.
 
It makes perfect sense. If someone grows up in rural Kansas and has slightly worse grades than the kid who went to private school, he should be considered because of the disadvantage given to him by his economic situation (or the advantage given to the private school kid by his).

Moving it away from race-based to needs-based makes very good sense.

I'm just glad the left is finally admitting AA is racist policy. That is indeed a sign of progress!

Your example is hilarious! Rural Kansans don't have any private schools? And what possible concern is it of mine, as an employer, what the economic circumstances of someone might have been? This has nothing really to do with what I seek to employ them for, so why is this my concern? And how, as a prospective employer, am I to determine who's 'economic situation' was better or worse than the other? Perhaps the private school pinhead had an alcoholic dad and dead mother, and no one to show him love? Maybe he was shoved off in a private school against his will, and he always dreamed he could be a rural Kansas boy, going to hick school? ....Fuck, what the hell do I know about someones 'situation' in ANY scenario?

Oh, but that is where GOVERNMENT comes in, right? THEY will tell me who to hire, based on their profound wisdom and stereotypical prejudices, and whom THEY feel is most suitable to work for me! And I am supposed to go along with this, because I am paying out the money for insurance, retirement, pension plan, sick leaves, vacation... Why, again???
 
I'm just glad the left is finally admitting AA is racist policy. That is indeed a sign of progress!

Your example is hilarious! Rural Kansans don't have any private schools? And what possible concern is it of mine, as an employer, what the economic circumstances of someone might have been? This has nothing really to do with what I seek to employ them for, so why is this my concern? And how, as a prospective employer, am I to determine who's 'economic situation' was better or worse than the other? Perhaps the private school pinhead had an alcoholic dad and dead mother, and no one to show him love? Maybe he was shoved off in a private school against his will, and he always dreamed he could be a rural Kansas boy, going to hick school? ....Fuck, what the hell do I know about someones 'situation' in ANY scenario?

Oh, but that is where GOVERNMENT comes in, right? THEY will tell me who to hire, based on their profound wisdom and stereotypical prejudices, and whom THEY feel is most suitable to work for me! And I am supposed to go along with this, because I am paying out the money for insurance, retirement, pension plan, sick leaves, vacation... Why, again???

Nobody admitted any such thing.
 
I'm just glad the left is finally admitting AA is racist policy. That is indeed a sign of progress!

Your example is hilarious! Rural Kansans don't have any private schools? And what possible concern is it of mine, as an employer, what the economic circumstances of someone might have been? This has nothing really to do with what I seek to employ them for, so why is this my concern? And how, as a prospective employer, am I to determine who's 'economic situation' was better or worse than the other? Perhaps the private school pinhead had an alcoholic dad and dead mother, and no one to show him love? Maybe he was shoved off in a private school against his will, and he always dreamed he could be a rural Kansas boy, going to hick school? ....Fuck, what the hell do I know about someones 'situation' in ANY scenario?

Oh, but that is where GOVERNMENT comes in, right? THEY will tell me who to hire, based on their profound wisdom and stereotypical prejudices, and whom THEY feel is most suitable to work for me! And I am supposed to go along with this, because I am paying out the money for insurance, retirement, pension plan, sick leaves, vacation... Why, again???


I think a prerequisite to opposing something is that you know what it is. You apparently have no idea what affirmative action is, yet here you are.

Tribalism rules.
 
Reactionary politics is so fascinating. The wingnuts who oppose AA have no problem with george w. bush getting into yale on white AA but if fairness is mentioned, then society will collapse for sure.

"University of Connecticut professor Jack Dovidio, who has researched racism for more than 30 years, estimates up to 80 percent of white Americans have racist feelings they may not even recognize.

"We've reached a point that racism is like a virus that has mutated into a new form that we don't recognize," Dovidio said.

He added that 21st-century racism is different from that of the past.

"Contemporary racism is not conscious, and it is not accompanied by dislike, so it gets expressed in indirect, subtle ways," he said.

That "stealth" discrimination reveals itself in many different situations."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/12/12/racism.poll/index.html
http://racerelations.about.com/od/recognizingmicroinequities/a/pollfindings.htm
http://www.counterpunch.org/wise03182008.html
 
Anyone with a brain bigger than a pea knows this isn't marxism. It's not worth my attention and risking derailing my thread over.

Guess Pell grants are socialism too.

to each according to their needs

you said yes to that....are you goign to actually sit there and claim that has nothing to do with marxism???? it is not derailing your thread in the slightest....how typical of you to, when stumped, pull the: it is stupid so i won't talk about it :rolleyes:
 
Obama came out the other day and had some strong language about affirmative action and suggested making it needs based as opposed to race based.

What say ye?
Somebody recently had a conversation with me on the board about this and talked how it would be "impossible" ...

Ah hayul... AHZ, take note.
 
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