Obama Cries For Gun Control

[kaz]

Do you have anything to add besides pot stirring?

I've never seen you call out righties and your posts are always dripping with scorn for liberals.

Seriously, you haven't? That's classic

 

[leaningright]

Speaking of guns, we just raised over $8500 on a $350 rifle. That is great for our school's sports programs especially during this time of deep budget cuts in our state.

 

[Phantasmal]

Speaking of guns, we just raised over $8500 on a $350 rifle. That is great for our school's sports programs especially during this time of deep budget cuts in our state.

Great support, fundraising is tough.

 

[J Craft]

You are such a phony. You've never said a word about grind's name calling or chopped liver's filthiness because your outrage is selective. Go back and see how many times the women on this forum are called the "c" word and the silence of everybody when it happens, including you, hypocrite.

As long as you keep repeating right-wing memes you will never allow yourself to be educated about violence in this country. You and others like you are willing tools and none of you are smart enough to see it.

"Experts have thoroughly dismantled the "black-on-black crime" deflection, pointing out that intra-racial crime is not unique to black communities and that "black-on-black crime" reduces a complex history of institutionalized racism and segregation to one phenomenon. Meanwhile, African Americans are more than twice as likely to be killed by police -- and almost twice as likely to be unarmed -- than their white counterparts."

"There was a time, in another surreal reality not so long ago, when conservative pundits reflexively grimaced at even the mention of it—and, oh, that whole notion that black people were unjustly shackled or slaughtered in advanced Western societies. Now black-on-black crime is a thing, with famous heavy-right rags embracing it as frequently as they knock the black president. It’s a fresh, new, nasty, stick-your-tongue-out retort to shut down any justifiable complaints from grieving black communities."

"Blaming the crime problem on black people is unfair and ill-founded. On one hand, according to FBI homicide data, African Americans commit more homicides than other racial groups. In 2013, there were 5,375 black homicide offenders versus 4,396 who were white and over 4,000 whose races were unknown. However, that is a very small percentage of the national black population, which is over 40 million people. The vast majority of black people do not commit
any crimes."

Grind has not called me names, and I can no longer read CL.

I provided you links that are non political research based statistics.

No one is blaming the crime problem on black people. Statisticians have collected statistics that reveal that black on black gun violence is actual and real.

People like you would rather be shills who cry racism because it's politically advantageous. It likely makes you feel more enlightened over the straw man idea that you've created where others are racist because they are willing to talk plainly.

Until people like you are willing to talk honestly about the gun violence in black urban communities- and stop with the worthless feel good "more gun laws" it won't get better.

 

[USFREEDOM911]

Speaking of guns, we just raised over $8500 on a $350 rifle. That is great for our school's sports programs especially during this time of deep budget cuts in our state.

Now you just make sure that you have a background check done on the winner; because if you don't, liberal heads are going to be exploding all over the place.

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

Try to follow along and actually read, you sick sociopath. Now I know you're just a racist like the rest of the dopes, only farther in the closet about it. People who aren't racists don't single out one group over and over and try to pretend those numbers represent the worst of society. Go hide under the bed with your guns in your racist city, you sick sociopath.

I have not singled any group out. I have only ever brought it up in response to your dumb arguments about how white people are running around being super violent when black people are the ones on average committing the most crime.

christie: Show me some numbers for violent crime after you take away black violence, and from a legitimate database, not something like WorldNutDaily

I am using your own numbers that you yourself provided. Idiot. White people are only committing twice as many violent crimes (in raw numbers) when there are 7 times as many white people in this country. Therefore, for people that understand basic math, it shows that whites are under-committing crime compared to the population of black people. But you are a FUCKING RETARD and don't understand these things.

 

[christiefan915]

I have not singled any group out. I have only ever brought it up in response to your dumb arguments about how white people are running around being super violent when black people are the ones on average committing the most crime.

I never said white people are being super violent, you lying sick sociopath. I said violence committed by whites is ignored by racists like you who single out people they hate rather than look at the whole picture. You're a classic example of someone who can't see the forest for the trees.

I am using your own numbers that you yourself provided. Idiot. White people are only committing twice as many violent crimes (in raw numbers) when there are 7 times as many white people in this country. Therefore, for people that understand basic math, it shows that whites are under-committing crime compared to the population of black people. But you are a FUCKING RETARD and don't understand these things.

You're just an effing sociopath who's being willfully ignorant now. My own numbers show that if you erase all the violence done by blacks and other groups you still have twice the number of people who were victimized by white violence. You refuse to see these numbers as standing for victims - human beings - because you lack empathy, the prime marker of sociopaths.

 

[christiefan915]

Grind has not called me names, and I can no longer read CL.

I provided you links that are non political research based statistics.

No one is blaming the crime problem on black people. Statisticians have collected statistics that reveal that black on black gun violence is actual and real.

People like you would rather be shills who cry racism because it's politically advantageous. It likely makes you feel more enlightened over the straw man idea that you've created where others are racist because they are willing to talk plainly.

Until people like you are willing to talk honestly about the gun violence in black urban communities- and stop with the worthless feel good "more gun laws" it won't get better.

Phony liar. You said "Your name calling is just too juvenile" and that was obviously meant as a dig at me rather than the person I responded to. You're trying to justify yourself and furthermore, your comment that you "can no longer read CL" says that you have read him in the past, and he was just as filthy in the past as he is now. So your sanctimonious excuses don't fly.

Your first link was titled Network Exposure and Homicide Victimization in an African American Community. It singled out that community and didn't compare it with statistics from so-called white communities. In fact it focused on one type of black community only, see if you can figure it out from this sentence: "...the risk of individual homicide victimization across a high-crime African American community." It's a pretty lame example to use for the point you're trying to make.

Your second link dismisses black violence with two sentences - "Young African-American males have the most elevated homicide victimization rate of any race or gender group. Homicides involving firearms have been the leading cause of death for African-American males ages 15 to 19 since 1969." - and that's not even the point I'm making. I don't know how many ways I can say this, or what other language you'd understand: When you take away black violence you are still left with numbers showing twice as many people are victims of white violence.

My issue is with violence in general no matter who commits it. Yours, and others, is that black violence is worse. It does not make sense.

Maybe you should repeat back what I'm saying in your next post, because it's obvious you aren't paying attention to my words, and substituting your own agenda instead.

 

[J Craft]

Phony liar. You said "Your name calling is just too juvenile" and that was obviously meant as a dig at me rather than the person I responded to. You're trying to justify yourself and furthermore, your comment that you "can no longer read CL" says that you have read him in the past, and he was just as filthy in the past as he is now. So your sanctimonious excuses don't fly.

Your first link was titled Network Exposure and Homicide Victimization in an African American Community. It singled out that community and didn't compare it with statistics from so-called white communities. In fact it focused on one type of black community only, see if you can figure it out from this sentence: "...the risk of individual homicide victimization across a high-crime African American community." It's a pretty lame example to use for the point you're trying to make.

Your second link dismisses black violence with two sentences - "Young African-American males have the most elevated homicide victimization rate of any race or gender group. Homicides involving firearms have been the leading cause of death for African-American males ages 15 to 19 since 1969." - and that's not even the point I'm making. I don't know how many ways I can say this, or what other language you'd understand: When you take away black violence you are still left with numbers showing twice as many people are victims of white violence.

My issue is with violence in general no matter who commits it. Yours, and others, is that black violence is worse. It does not make sense.

Maybe you should repeat back what I'm saying in your next post, because it's obvious you aren't paying attention to my words, and substituting your own agenda instead.

Again, starting out a response with name calling.

The links I provided were to articles with solid research- not intended to call out the racial divide you wish to imply, but to rightly lay out the problem. That the problem exists in urban black neighborhoods is actual and real.

YOU, and those like you, are the very people that prevent a fix. Tip-toeing around your stupid PC sensibilities is a large part of the problem.

OK. Gun violence in black neighborhoods is a problem- how do we address it? Underlying causes cannot be discussed if you don't voice the facts.

Black on black gun violence, is the second leading of gun violence, after suicide.

Facts.

 

[christiefan915]

Again, starting out a response with name calling.

The links I provided were to articles with solid research- not intended to call out the racial divide you wish to imply, but to rightly lay out the problem. That the problem exists in urban black neighborhoods is actual and real.

YOU, and those like you, are the very people that prevent a fix. Tip-toeing around your stupid PC sensibilities is a large part of the problem.

OK. Gun violence in black neighborhoods is a problem- how do we address it? Underlying causes cannot be discussed if you don't voice the facts.

Black on black gun violence, is the second leading of gun violence, after suicide.

Facts.

Your failure to address others' name-calling is noted.

My issue is with violence in general no matter who commits it. Yours, and others, is that black violence is worse. It does not make sense.

 

[evince]

Again, starting out a response with name calling.

The links I provided were to articles with solid research- not intended to call out the racial divide you wish to imply, but to rightly lay out the problem. That the problem exists in urban black neighborhoods is actual and real.

YOU, and those like you, are the very people that prevent a fix. Tip-toeing around your stupid PC sensibilities is a large part of the problem.

OK. Gun violence in black neighborhoods is a problem- how do we address it? Underlying causes cannot be discussed if you don't voice the facts.

Black on black gun violence, is the second leading of gun violence, after suicide.

Facts.

but not in urban white hoods?


please document that

 

[USFREEDOM911]

I have not singled any group out. I have only ever brought it up in response to your dumb arguments about how white people are running around being super violent when black people are the ones on average committing the most crime.



I am using your own numbers that you yourself provided. Idiot. White people are only committing twice as many violent crimes (in raw numbers) when there are 7 times as many white people in this country. Therefore, for people that understand basic math, it shows that whites are under-committing crime compared to the population of black people. But you are a FUCKING RETARD and don't understand these things.

In Christie's defense, I do believe she understands this completely; but her pride and her fear of being labeled a racist, won't allow her to admit that her presentation has failed.

 

[J Craft]

Your failure to address others' name-calling is noted.

My issue is with violence in general no matter who commits it. Yours, and others, is that black violence is worse. It does not make sense.

I'm sure you take any all notes you think allow you to be a name caller. I only need to address your name calling, as it has been addressed and directed to me often enough. That I note how often you name call all posters you disagree with speaks for itself.

You are either comprehension challenged, or deliberately obtuse on the issue- which is specific to gun violence, not "black" violence. Again, gun violence between black urban citizens ranks 2nd as a statistical fact, to suicides, when discussing GUN violence.

 

[RockX]

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

I never said white people are being super violent, you lying sick sociopath. I said violence committed by whites is ignored by racists like you who single out people they hate rather than look at the whole picture. You're a classic example of someone who can't see the forest for the trees.
.

nope. what you did is post a thread about whites running around committing violent crimes with a dumbfuck smug grin on your face not realizing that you were admitting in your OP that blacks are on average committing more crimes.

 

[BRUTALITOPS]

You're just an effing sociopath who's being willfully ignorant now. My own numbers show that if you erase all the violence done by blacks and other groups you still have twice the number of people who were victimized by white violence.

yes you get twice as many crimes when you SHOULD be seeing 7 times as much, assuming everything were equal. astute observation, idiot.

 

[christiefan915]

yes you get twice as many crimes when you SHOULD be seeing 7 times as much, assuming everything were equal. astute observation, idiot.

This isn't a math problem or precognition you sociopathic cretin, we're talking about victims... in other words human beings, those people you have no empathy for.

The way you try to boil this down to numbers is why you're known as the board sociopath.

 

[christiefan915]

nope. what you did is post a thread about whites running around committing violent crimes with a dumbfuck smug grin on your face not realizing that you were admitting in your OP that blacks are on average committing more crimes.

Backtracking now? The fact that you refuse to admit how much white violence occurs is just further proof that you're a sociopath with no understanding or empathy for victims. You dehumanize people by reducing them to percentages.

 

[evince]

nope. what you did is post a thread about whites running around committing violent crimes with a dumbfuck smug grin on your face not realizing that you were admitting in your OP that blacks are on average committing more crimes.

why only use skin color to inform these numbers ?


how about using something like income level


because to certain people only race matters

 

[evince]

yes you get twice as many crimes when you SHOULD be seeing 7 times as much, assuming everything were equal. astute observation, idiot.

and racism has nothing to do with how you see this huh?


what has been the impact of racism on he black community?


lots of poverty huh