Obama adm.'s secret airlift of $400 million to Iran for prisoner release

Althea said:
Wow...another moronic thread, with moronic claims.
WTF is happening to you?
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looking for transparency, accountability and separation of powers is moronic?
You need to get away from the Democratic party for some perspective.

It very much looks to me like it one of these Obama (false) walls they set up for plausible deniability.
Like the left hand doen't know what the right hand is doing -except it all goes back to Obama, not some disinterested "negotiators."

Unless you think Obama was unaware of the "2 tracks"; you have to link the actions.
When you do -you can see the pay off. It matters not if it was supposedly separate - it's a ransom for hostages deal.

EDIT: I still can't research it any further. it's just not on MS sources
 
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US and European officials told the Wall Street Journal the negotiations began by focusing on a straight forward prisoner swap but grew to envelop compensation for the failed arms deal.

Eventually, Obama agreed to pay the $400 million and the four Americans were released from a Tehran prison last January.
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Meanwhile a fifth American - student Matthew Trevithick - was also freed, but this was unrelated to the prisoner swap, which saw seven Iranian prisoners released or pardoned by the United States.
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US official told the Washington Post at the time that 'Iranians wanted a goodwill gesture' in return, leading to the release of seven Iranian prisoners.
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President Obama's administration paid $400m to Iran as part of a failed arms deal as they also lifted nuclear-related sanctions
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but he backed up the administration's claim that the deal to give Iran the money it was owed fell into place as a result of positive momentum from the Iran deal.
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'This all came to a head at the same time because we are addressing and resolving longstanding concerns with Iranian behavior and the benefits are almost too long to mention,' he told reporters today.
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this isn't sanctions relief money -it's money seized from an arms deal that never happened.
The deal wasn't disclosed - the money was sent an untraceable cash. Why didn't we use a "cutout" European bank in euros?

There was linkage too.
 
State Claimed No 'Big Suitcase Full of Cash' in Iran Deal


Although the administration announced the settlement at the time, including the amount of $400 million, the timing and details of the delivery were not publicly revealed until now. In fact, the administration downplayed the immediate benefits that Iran would enjoy. When the State Department was pushing for the Iran deal in September 2015, a State official pooh-poohed the idea that Iran would get a "big suitcase full of cash."

"[T]here's a common misperception that on implementation day a big suitcase full of cash shows up in Tehran and all of a sudden they have all this money, which I think is really – does a disservice to what actually is going to happen," said the anonymous official.

Just days before the deal was implemented, State Department spokesman John Kirby remarked that "nobody is handing [Iran] some sort of windfall of cash", though he was specifically addressing sanctions relief and not the arms dispute settlement.
 Administration officials on a conference call on January 17 also skirted the issue of the cash delivery when describing the timing of the Iran deal, the dispute settlement, and the Americans' release.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/2015-...ase-full-of-cash-in-iran-deal/article/2003652
 
anatta said:
looking for transparency, accountability and separation of powers is moronic?
You need to get away from the Democratic party for some perspective.

It very much looks to me like it one of these Obama (false) walls they set up for plausible deniability.
Like the left hand doen't know what the right hand is doing -except it all goes back to Obama, not some disinterested "negotiators."

Unless you think Obama was unaware of the "2 tracks"; you have to link the actions.
When you do -you can see the pay off. It matters not if it was supposedly separate - it's a ransom for hostages deal.

EDIT: I still can't research it any further. it's just not on MS sources
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And that's why I've lost all faith in you.

Drag Right Wing nonsense here, with no viable citations. The first 6 Google pages all refer back to the original Breitbart et. al bullshit.
 
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Obama?
 
doesn't the government pay ALL its bills in bales of cash flown on unmarked cargo planes?.......I know that's how my SS money gets here.......
 
Althea said:
And that's why I've lost all faith in you.

Drag Right Wing nonsense here, with no viable citations. The first 6 Google pages all refer back to the original Breitbart et. al bullshit.
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plenty of cites. I can't help it if the MS press wouldn't cover it until it blew up today. I never use RW sources unless I can't find it elsewhere
It's amazing you just accept the pablum put out by this administration with it's long history of obscuring truth.
At least realize these guys are no fans of transpaency/accountability

So I put up some more details -do you still hold this was a "coincidence" with no linkage?

The really sad thing no one is talking about is if we had to go to such great lengths to get the Iran deal-
and Iran is still testing ballistic missiles (against the UN) and still ready for breakout with advanced centrifuges
and we gave the Islamic Republic of Iran sanctions relief, and paid out on old Shah monies...what did we get?

Iran is worse then ever as a terrorist enabler -rogue actor in the region.
All this for Legacy?
 
Rana said:
http://www.politicususa.com/2016/08...blican-claims-obamas-secret-iran-payment.html

You guys really should do some fact checking before posting silly stuff.
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You "guys" really should engage your brain before you start believing silly stuff. I remember the first few days of the "videotape" fiasco... People "fact checking" and defending the narrative. This is just more of that.

The reality is: if it looks like ransom, smells like ransom, and is given to somebody who is releasing prisoners like they've just been ransomed, then you should not be shocked when thinking people call it ransom.
 
ts Irans money you fucking assholes


then they release the prisoners to cause Obama pain because they hate Americans


you right wing fucks lick their ass and say thank you
 
Damocles said:
You "guys" really should engage your brain before you start believing silly stuff. I remember the first few days of the "videotape" fiasco... People "fact checking" and defending the narrative. This is just more of that.

The reality is: if it looks like ransom, smells like ransom, and is given to somebody who is releasing prisoners like they've just been ransomed, then you should not be shocked when thinking people call it ransom.
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lol, Benghazi, Benghazi, hold that thought Damo, it seems to be the only think you got!
 
evince said:
ts Irans money you fucking assholes


then they release the prisoners to cause Obama pain because they hate Americans


you right wing fucks lick their ass and say thank you
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It doesn't matter whose money it is... If Hitler took some prisoners and we gave him some money "back" in 1939 (before we entered a war) it would still be Hitler holding people hostage and getting paid to release them.
 
Damocles said:
It doesn't matter whose money it is... If Hitler took some prisoners and we gave him some money "back" in 1939 (before we entered a war) it would still be Hitler holding people hostage and getting paid to release them.
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I was wondering about that.. the money was back in the Shah's days -does the current government automatically get it back?
and if we told them to pound sand ( "no") would the prisoners have been released?
It looks like a giant cave in to buy back the prisoners. And all that absent the obvious linkage.
 
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