Oakland teachers, without a contract for more than a year, threaten to strike

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For those in the demographics are destiny camp what say you here? Oakland, California is the most diverse City in the country. Racially it's about 25% Asian, 25% Hispanic, 25% black and 25% white. There are no elected Republicans in Oakland. There are no elected Republicans in the Bay Area. There are no elected Republicans statewide in California and Democrats have a super majority in state Congress. Yet the Oakland School District continues to mismanage money and produce poor results. And Oakland today isn't the Oakland I grew up in. In many Oakland neighborhood's today you can't buy a home for under $1m.

Since we have the "good guys" in office why are Oakland schools a continued mess? Why can't people who supposedly care about government do it effectively?




Oakland teachers, without a contract for more than a year, threaten to strike


She teaches English and history at Coliseum College Prep Academy in East Oakland, but Becca Rozo-Marsh knows how to do the math.

She could earn more money by leaving Oakland Unified School District and getting a job in another school district. Even so, Rozo-Marsh wants to continue working in the community where she’s gotten to know the families of her high school students over seven years.

“I know there are a lot of teachers that are being forced to leave,” said Rozo-Marsh, who was raised in El Cerrito and graduated from Berkeley High School. “They want to make the choice to stay, and they can’t afford to live here.” But leaving “destabilizes our schools.”

Oakland pays teachers a starting salary of roughly $46,000, while nearby San Leandro Unified pays $60,000, Hayward Unified pays $61,000 and Fremont Unified pays $65,000, according to the California Department of Education. Differences in the way benefits are offered may mean the amounts can’t be directly compared.

Even so, it’s barely enough to get by in Oakland, where the average rent is $2,527, according to RentCafe.com, a real estate tracking website. Rozo-Marsh and a friend own a home in Oakland’s Laurel district, but they have roommates.

“To afford our mortgage in Oakland on the salaries we have, we have six people living there,” she said.

Oakland public school teachers have been working without a contract since July 2017. Negotiations on a new contract have gone on so long that teachers have threatened a citywide strike.

Teachers I’ve spoken with, including Rozo-Marsh, argue that the school district is underfunding classroom education and that teachers are paying the price. The next negotiation session is scheduled for Wednesday. A strike is likely if demands aren’t met, according to the Oakland Education Association, the teachers union.


Oakland teachers are demanding smaller class sizes. Rozo-Marsh has two classes with more than 30 students in each. Teachers have requested a 12 percent raise over three years. The school district countered with about a 2 percent increase over three years.

That’s not enough to make the district attractive for teaching talent. Even some district representatives agree that the teachers are justified in asking for more money. But Board of Education member James Harris told me the district can’t afford to do right by its teachers.

“Our problem, as a district, is that we are too large. We operate too many schools,” Harris said. “What we won’t do is put ourselves and our city on the hook for money we don’t have, so we have to be thoughtful and smart about how we’re doing this.”

So far, the district hasn’t been thoughtful or smart. Oakland Unified has been hemorrhaging money for years. It faces a $30 million budget shortfall next year and a $60 million deficit the year after that.

The district is not alone in poor money management. In June, Gov. Jerry Brown signed the Education Trailer Bill, which will provide financial relief to districts across the state. Funding from the bill will cover up to 75 percent of the Oakland’s shortfall next year, up to 50 percent the next year, and up to 25 percent in the third year.

But that won’t necessarily help the teachers.

“Teachers are just sick and tired of being pushed around, and the quality of education is eroding because people aren’t coming into this profession anymore,” said Ismael Armendariz, vice president of the Oakland Education Association.

Teachers are leaving Oakland at an alarming rate. The district reported a teacher attrition rate of 22 percent last year — higher than the 11-year average of 18.5 percent.

According to Armendariz, the district had 571 teacher vacancies last year, and 40 positions remain vacant. Teacher vacancies mean more crowded classrooms, and less time for teachers to spend with individual students.

That’s something Oakland can’t afford. According to the Scholastic Reading Inventory, an assessment of reading performance, only 36 percent of students in the Oakland district were reading at or above grade level in spring 2017. A total of a 41 percent of students lagged more than one year below grade level.

“The district has to do something fundamentally different in order to improve education,” Armendariz said. “We believe that starts with keeping quality teachers in Oakland.”

Teachers want more than a raise, according to Armendariz. They want more control of their classrooms and how money is allocated to schools.

“It’s about fundamentally changing the way the district does business,” he said. “We’ve allowed them for too long to invest in things that haven’t improved student outcomes, and now we’re saying that’s enough.

“This contract is going to be settled this year. We are not going another year without a contract. That is not going to happen.”

I asked Harris, the school board member, what the district will do to avoid a work stoppage, which will hurt the students.

“I hope we can find a place where we understand the reality that we sit in right now,” he said.


https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea...hers-without-a-contract-for-more-13419865.php
 
Huh! What kind of idiotic post is this? Do these issues appear overnight like rain and disappear the next day if super politician appears with cape and magic wand. Money matters and the money spent on the rich and their private education does not match public school money. I know people who spent more on grade school than most colleges cost. They do that because class exists in America and it paves the way up the food chain.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/14/u...ls-are-even-more-unequal-than-we-thought.html

Rich schools v poor

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...uccess-how-your-school-district-compares.html


"Schools serve the same social functions as prisons and mental institutions- to define, classify, control, and regulate people." Michel Foucault
 
Huh! What kind of idiotic post is this? Do these issues appear overnight like rain and disappear the next day if super politician appears with cape and magic wand. Money matters and the money spent on the rich and their private education does not match public school money. I know people who spent more on grade school than most colleges cost. They do that because class exists in America and it paves the way up the food chain.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/14/u...ls-are-even-more-unequal-than-we-thought.html

Rich schools v poor

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...uccess-how-your-school-district-compares.html


"Schools serve the same social functions as prisons and mental institutions- to define, classify, control, and regulate people." Michel Foucault

Nice bigotry midcan. You just assume because Oakland is diverse that it is poor? Are you not familiar with the money that exists in the Bay Area and California? Nothing here compared public to private schools. Look at your bigotry that you feel certain school districts shouldn't be held to account.

Should the black author of this piece be fired for writing it?
 
For those in the demographics are destiny camp what say you here? Oakland, California is the most diverse City in the country. Racially it's about 25% Asian, 25% Hispanic, 25% black and 25% white. There are no elected Republicans in Oakland. There are no elected Republicans in the Bay Area. There are no elected Republicans statewide in California and Democrats have a super majority in state Congress. Yet the Oakland School District continues to mismanage money and produce poor results. And Oakland today isn't the Oakland I grew up in. In many Oakland neighborhood's today you can't buy a home for under $1m.

Since we have the "good guys" in office why are Oakland schools a continued mess? Why can't people who supposedly care about government do it effectively?

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea...hers-without-a-contract-for-more-13419865.php

First off, the attempted political association is irrelevant, it is easy to ping pong the same situations occurring in numerous red states, the teacher demonstrations last summer for the most part occurred in Republican controlled States

In most communities, paying teachers isn't a high priority, and in some, attacking and reducing their benefits, which used to be the positive side of entering education, are being reduced and even eliminated. It is like addressing sewer problems, necessary, but not an attractive issue for politicians
 
First off, the attempted political association is irrelevant, it is easy to ping pong the same situations occurring in numerous red states, the teacher demonstrations last summer for the most part occurred in Republican controlled States

In most communities, paying teachers isn't a high priority, and in some, attacking and reducing their benefits, which used to be the positive side of entering education, are being reduced and even eliminated. It is like addressing sewer problems, necessary, but not an attractive issue for politicians

When your argument is we need to eliminate Republicans and conservatives to improve education in this country then the political association is very real. And it's not like Oakland just came under Democratic control this past election cycle it's been like this for decades. And when you argue we need Democrats/liberals in office because they care about government and having it run well the political association is very real.
 
When your argument is we need to eliminate Republicans and conservatives to improve education in this country then the political association is very real. And it's not like Oakland just came under Democratic control this past election cycle it's been like this for decades. And when you argue we need Democrats/liberals in office because they care about government and having it run well the political association is very real.

I never said nor implied that "we need to eliminate Republicans and conservatives to improve education," actually, my comment was that "in most communities, paying teachers isn't a high priority"

Both parties ignore education, they offer lip service, but basically do nothing, as I said, it is not a hot issue for politicians. However, attacking their Unions and jeopardizing their benefits are stances Republicans and conservatives have jumped upon, neither which addresses the teachers plight
 
I never said nor implied that "we need to eliminate Republicans and conservatives to improve education," actually, my comment was that "in most communities, paying teachers isn't a high priority"

Both parties ignore education, they offer lip service, but basically do nothing, as I said, it is not a hot issue for politicians. However, attacking their Unions and jeopardizing their benefits are stances Republicans and conservatives have jumped upon, neither which addresses the teachers plight

My statement was one to the general liberal phisophy, not you personally. One of the ironies of liberals claiming to care about education is in many cases they care more about the employment it provides the adults, rather than the results for the students. Again I revert back to The Prize about Zuckerburg's $100m donation to Newark schools.

But Democrats in office and Democrat posters on this board give plenty of lip service to caring about education. Remember it's us "uneducated rednecks" that don't like education and want to cut funding. And it's always "Republicans want to cut education funding". Well here you have a City and state with no Republicans and we see the results.
 
My statement was one to the general liberal phisophy, not you personally. One of the ironies of liberals claiming to care about education is in many cases they care more about the employment it provides the adults, rather than the results for the students. Again I revert back to The Prize about Zuckerburg's $100m donation to Newark schools.

But Democrats in office and Democrat posters on this board give plenty of lip service to caring about education. Remember it's us "uneducated rednecks" that don't like education and want to cut funding. And it's always "Republicans want to cut education funding". Well here you have a City and state with no Republicans and we see the results.

You are not processing the posts, as I attempted to say, it is just as easy to ping pong an area or State with no Democrats that have shit schools

And if your "employment" reference applies to tenure, I'd disagree with you there also, the last thing an educator needs is to be under the complete control of an administrator with a political agenda. The job is already underpaid and difficult enough, security is, was anyways, one of the benefits

The problem with education is that it is modeled after an early twentieth Century concept, the factory model, put kids on an assembly belt aimed at the same end product, doesn't relate to the realities of the new Century
 
Teachers always play the "I could make more money doing something else, but I just care about the children" shtick every single time everywhere in the country there is a dollar to be had. Let them go.
 
For those in the demographics are destiny camp what say you here? Oakland, California is the most diverse City in the country. Racially it's about 25% Asian, 25% Hispanic, 25% black and 25% white. There are no elected Republicans in Oakland. There are no elected Republicans in the Bay Area. There are no elected Republicans statewide in California and Democrats have a super majority in state Congress. Yet the Oakland School District continues to mismanage money and produce poor results. And Oakland today isn't the Oakland I grew up in. In many Oakland neighborhood's today you can't buy a home for under $1m.

Since we have the "good guys" in office why are Oakland schools a continued mess? Why can't people who supposedly care about government do it effectively?




Oakland teachers, without a contract for more than a year, threaten to strike


She teaches English and history at Coliseum College Prep Academy in East Oakland, but Becca Rozo-Marsh knows how to do the math.

She could earn more money by leaving Oakland Unified School District and getting a job in another school district. Even so, Rozo-Marsh wants to continue working in the community where she’s gotten to know the families of her high school students over seven years.

“I know there are a lot of teachers that are being forced to leave,” said Rozo-Marsh, who was raised in El Cerrito and graduated from Berkeley High School. “They want to make the choice to stay, and they can’t afford to live here.” But leaving “destabilizes our schools.”

Oakland pays teachers a starting salary of roughly $46,000, while nearby San Leandro Unified pays $60,000, Hayward Unified pays $61,000 and Fremont Unified pays $65,000, according to the California Department of Education. Differences in the way benefits are offered may mean the amounts can’t be directly compared.

Even so, it’s barely enough to get by in Oakland, where the average rent is $2,527, according to RentCafe.com, a real estate tracking website. Rozo-Marsh and a friend own a home in Oakland’s Laurel district, but they have roommates.

“To afford our mortgage in Oakland on the salaries we have, we have six people living there,” she said.

Oakland public school teachers have been working without a contract since July 2017. Negotiations on a new contract have gone on so long that teachers have threatened a citywide strike.

Teachers I’ve spoken with, including Rozo-Marsh, argue that the school district is underfunding classroom education and that teachers are paying the price. The next negotiation session is scheduled for Wednesday. A strike is likely if demands aren’t met, according to the Oakland Education Association, the teachers union.


Oakland teachers are demanding smaller class sizes. Rozo-Marsh has two classes with more than 30 students in each. Teachers have requested a 12 percent raise over three years. The school district countered with about a 2 percent increase over three years.

That’s not enough to make the district attractive for teaching talent. Even some district representatives agree that the teachers are justified in asking for more money. But Board of Education member James Harris told me the district can’t afford to do right by its teachers.

“Our problem, as a district, is that we are too large. We operate too many schools,” Harris said. “What we won’t do is put ourselves and our city on the hook for money we don’t have, so we have to be thoughtful and smart about how we’re doing this.”

So far, the district hasn’t been thoughtful or smart. Oakland Unified has been hemorrhaging money for years. It faces a $30 million budget shortfall next year and a $60 million deficit the year after that.

The district is not alone in poor money management. In June, Gov. Jerry Brown signed the Education Trailer Bill, which will provide financial relief to districts across the state. Funding from the bill will cover up to 75 percent of the Oakland’s shortfall next year, up to 50 percent the next year, and up to 25 percent in the third year.

But that won’t necessarily help the teachers.

“Teachers are just sick and tired of being pushed around, and the quality of education is eroding because people aren’t coming into this profession anymore,” said Ismael Armendariz, vice president of the Oakland Education Association.

Teachers are leaving Oakland at an alarming rate. The district reported a teacher attrition rate of 22 percent last year — higher than the 11-year average of 18.5 percent.

According to Armendariz, the district had 571 teacher vacancies last year, and 40 positions remain vacant. Teacher vacancies mean more crowded classrooms, and less time for teachers to spend with individual students.

That’s something Oakland can’t afford. According to the Scholastic Reading Inventory, an assessment of reading performance, only 36 percent of students in the Oakland district were reading at or above grade level in spring 2017. A total of a 41 percent of students lagged more than one year below grade level.

“The district has to do something fundamentally different in order to improve education,” Armendariz said. “We believe that starts with keeping quality teachers in Oakland.”

Teachers want more than a raise, according to Armendariz. They want more control of their classrooms and how money is allocated to schools.

“It’s about fundamentally changing the way the district does business,” he said. “We’ve allowed them for too long to invest in things that haven’t improved student outcomes, and now we’re saying that’s enough.

“This contract is going to be settled this year. We are not going another year without a contract. That is not going to happen.”

I asked Harris, the school board member, what the district will do to avoid a work stoppage, which will hurt the students.

“I hope we can find a place where we understand the reality that we sit in right now,” he said.


https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea...hers-without-a-contract-for-more-13419865.php

Duh

It’s republicans fault
 
Huh! What kind of idiotic post is this? Do these issues appear overnight like rain and disappear the next day if super politician appears with cape and magic wand. Money matters and the money spent on the rich and their private education does not match public school money. I know people who spent more on grade school than most colleges cost. They do that because class exists in America and it paves the way up the food chain.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/14/u...ls-are-even-more-unequal-than-we-thought.html

Rich schools v poor

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...uccess-how-your-school-district-compares.html


"Schools serve the same social functions as prisons and mental institutions- to define, classify, control, and regulate people." Michel Foucault

What part of, DEMOCRATS ARE 100% IN CHARGE, don't you understand? I thought Democrat Party members cared about the poor? Lol, of course they don't.
 
There is truth in almost everything above, but the flat fact is that if parents are not involved in their child's education, the kids will be most likely academically handicapped.
 
For those in the demographics are destiny camp what say you here? Oakland, California is the most diverse City in the country. Racially it's about 25% Asian, 25% Hispanic, 25% black and 25% white. There are no elected Republicans in Oakland. There are no elected Republicans in the Bay Area. There are no elected Republicans statewide in California and Democrats have a super majority in state Congress. Yet the Oakland School District continues to mismanage money and produce poor results. And Oakland today isn't the Oakland I grew up in. In many Oakland neighborhood's today you can't buy a home for under $1m.

Since we have the "good guys" in office why are Oakland schools a continued mess? Why can't people who supposedly care about government do it effectively?




Oakland teachers, without a contract for more than a year, threaten to strike


She teaches English and history at Coliseum College Prep Academy in East Oakland, but Becca Rozo-Marsh knows how to do the math.

She could earn more money by leaving Oakland Unified School District and getting a job in another school district. Even so, Rozo-Marsh wants to continue working in the community where she’s gotten to know the families of her high school students over seven years.

“I know there are a lot of teachers that are being forced to leave,” said Rozo-Marsh, who was raised in El Cerrito and graduated from Berkeley High School. “They want to make the choice to stay, and they can’t afford to live here.” But leaving “destabilizes our schools.”

Oakland pays teachers a starting salary of roughly $46,000, while nearby San Leandro Unified pays $60,000, Hayward Unified pays $61,000 and Fremont Unified pays $65,000, according to the California Department of Education. Differences in the way benefits are offered may mean the amounts can’t be directly compared.

Even so, it’s barely enough to get by in Oakland, where the average rent is $2,527, according to RentCafe.com, a real estate tracking website. Rozo-Marsh and a friend own a home in Oakland’s Laurel district, but they have roommates.

“To afford our mortgage in Oakland on the salaries we have, we have six people living there,” she said.

Oakland public school teachers have been working without a contract since July 2017. Negotiations on a new contract have gone on so long that teachers have threatened a citywide strike.

Teachers I’ve spoken with, including Rozo-Marsh, argue that the school district is underfunding classroom education and that teachers are paying the price. The next negotiation session is scheduled for Wednesday. A strike is likely if demands aren’t met, according to the Oakland Education Association, the teachers union.


Oakland teachers are demanding smaller class sizes. Rozo-Marsh has two classes with more than 30 students in each. Teachers have requested a 12 percent raise over three years. The school district countered with about a 2 percent increase over three years.

That’s not enough to make the district attractive for teaching talent. Even some district representatives agree that the teachers are justified in asking for more money. But Board of Education member James Harris told me the district can’t afford to do right by its teachers.

“Our problem, as a district, is that we are too large. We operate too many schools,” Harris said. “What we won’t do is put ourselves and our city on the hook for money we don’t have, so we have to be thoughtful and smart about how we’re doing this.”

So far, the district hasn’t been thoughtful or smart. Oakland Unified has been hemorrhaging money for years. It faces a $30 million budget shortfall next year and a $60 million deficit the year after that.

The district is not alone in poor money management. In June, Gov. Jerry Brown signed the Education Trailer Bill, which will provide financial relief to districts across the state. Funding from the bill will cover up to 75 percent of the Oakland’s shortfall next year, up to 50 percent the next year, and up to 25 percent in the third year.

But that won’t necessarily help the teachers.

“Teachers are just sick and tired of being pushed around, and the quality of education is eroding because people aren’t coming into this profession anymore,” said Ismael Armendariz, vice president of the Oakland Education Association.

Teachers are leaving Oakland at an alarming rate. The district reported a teacher attrition rate of 22 percent last year — higher than the 11-year average of 18.5 percent.

According to Armendariz, the district had 571 teacher vacancies last year, and 40 positions remain vacant. Teacher vacancies mean more crowded classrooms, and less time for teachers to spend with individual students.

That’s something Oakland can’t afford. According to the Scholastic Reading Inventory, an assessment of reading performance, only 36 percent of students in the Oakland district were reading at or above grade level in spring 2017. A total of a 41 percent of students lagged more than one year below grade level.

“The district has to do something fundamentally different in order to improve education,” Armendariz said. “We believe that starts with keeping quality teachers in Oakland.”

Teachers want more than a raise, according to Armendariz. They want more control of their classrooms and how money is allocated to schools.

“It’s about fundamentally changing the way the district does business,” he said. “We’ve allowed them for too long to invest in things that haven’t improved student outcomes, and now we’re saying that’s enough.

“This contract is going to be settled this year. We are not going another year without a contract. That is not going to happen.”

I asked Harris, the school board member, what the district will do to avoid a work stoppage, which will hurt the students.

“I hope we can find a place where we understand the reality that we sit in right now,” he said.


https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea...hers-without-a-contract-for-more-13419865.php

"There are no elected Republicans in the Bay Area. There are no elected Republicans statewide in California and Democrats have a super majority in state Congress. Yet the Oakland School District continues to mismanage money and produce poor results."

And the Oakland School District is surely a good analog for all CA Democrats?

you're full of shit
 
"There are no elected Republicans in the Bay Area. There are no elected Republicans statewide in California and Democrats have a super majority in state Congress. Yet the Oakland School District continues to mismanage money and produce poor results."

And the Oakland School District is surely a good analog for all CA Democrats?

you're full of shit

LOL, I'm full of sh*t because Oakland has been run by Democrats for decades and our state has only Democrats in charge? I don't see you or others arguing we should elect some Republicans on the local level to have a more ideologically diverse City government. You want the power but don't want any responsibility for the results.
 
You are not processing the posts, as I attempted to say, it is just as easy to ping pong an area or State with no Democrats that have shit schools

And if your "employment" reference applies to tenure, I'd disagree with you there also, the last thing an educator needs is to be under the complete control of an administrator with a political agenda. The job is already underpaid and difficult enough, security is, was anyways, one of the benefits

The problem with education is that it is modeled after an early twentieth Century concept, the factory model, put kids on an assembly belt aimed at the same end product, doesn't relate to the realities of the new Century

The employment reference is not about tenure. It's about the bureacracy surrounding education and the determination of how money is spent. You have to read The Prize and other authors on this topic to understand how decisions are made and how these decisions aren't made with children's best interest in mind.

I picked Oakland because I grew up there (and there was NO way I was going to Oakland public schools), still live across the Bay from it and this article was in our local paper. I also chose Oakland because as you've seen on this board there's been a lot of talk/celebrating how even more blue California has become.

But having a passion for education and having volunteered teaching for years I pay attention to this space. And if I had a nickel for every time I've heard "Republicans cut school funding" I'd be very well to do economically. Well here's an area where Republicans have no control and yet look at what's happening today, let alone the past four decades.
 
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