NYT bends the knee on Trump’s ISIS victory

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cawacko said:
Because it's all about the opponent. If your opponent is even more unpopular then there you go.
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Rest assured that no upcoming opponent will ever be more unpopular than trump. That is of course if he even comes close to making it to the next election.
 
floridafan said:
I doubt Robert Mueller thinks as you do, and he is all that counts.
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You should keep in mind no one knows, for sure, where Mueller is heading, including you and CNN.

He indicted Manafort for what he did while working for a democrat and the Flynn indictment was for a process crime.
 
Darth Omar said:
You should keep in mind no one knows, for sure, where Mueller is heading, including you and CNN.

He indicted Manafort for what he did while working for a democrat and the Flynn indictment was for a process crime.
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Dont worry honey pot, the best is yet to come- Jared Jr., Pence, and trump all tied up with a big bow.
 
Darth Omar said:
But nobody believed them lol?
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No. Pundits misinterpreted them, particularly w/ the late Comey-induced surge for Trump. It was clear at the end that they were tight, but most pundits still said Trump didn't have a chance because that was the narrative for months (and the polls showed that up until the last week or so).

But particularly the national polls - which are reflected in the popular vote - were spot on at the end. Most had Hillary winning that vote by about 2%, which she did. So the fact that you guys keep trotting out the idea that the polls were "way off" is typically ignorant stuff.
 
Thing1 said:
No. Pundits misinterpreted them, particularly w/ the late Comey-induced surge for Trump. It was clear at the end that they were tight, but most pundits still said Trump didn't have a chance because that was the narrative for months (and the polls showed that up until the last week or so).

But particularly the national polls - which are reflected in the popular vote - were spot on at the end. Most had Hillary winning that vote by about 2%, which she did. So the fact that you guys keep trotting out the idea that the polls were "way off" is typically ignorant stuff.
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So the media pundits were typically ignorant for following The Bubble narrative?

What other fake narratives are they peddling to the ignorant?
 
I don't understand this thread. Russia and the legal Syrian government defeated Isis: the USA just supported various terrorist gangs, surely?
 
"the war against the Islamic State, whose expansion was the defining foreign policy calamity of Barack Obama’s second term, whose executions of Americans made the U.S.A. look impotent" DO #lead
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a) According to what I've read of it, the senior military commanders of ISIL were former Saddam / Iraq commanders.

b) So when the Bushies rushed in with their "regime change" ambitions, they fired Saddam's military commanders, who then formed ISIL. Therefore:

c) Call it an Obama calamity. But Obama was the victim. Bush was the cause. No U.S. military inflicted regime change in Iraq, no ISIL. Period.

Apart from that some forecast it could take the U.S. years of bloody combat, with potentially thousands of ADDITIONAL losses in U.S. troops.

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Commander in Chief Obama said: No.

Obama said he'd provide tactical air support, but the boots on the ground would have to be local.

As a U.S. military veteran, I'm exceedingly grateful to Obama for standing resolutely for this principle.
 
floridafan said:
Rest assured that no upcoming opponent will ever be more unpopular than trump. That is of course if he even comes close to making it to the next election.
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You asked how it could be done. I just told you.

And considering y'all ran Hillary Clinton last time there is nothing to be rest assured about
 
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