NY Times Eviscerates Obama White House - Wave of Condemnation

blackascoal said:
One can call it a scandal or not, but whatever you call it, it doesn't look good for democrats. Obama will never face an election again .. but many democrats will....
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I said it when the POS was first elected: long term, it was the best thing ever for the GOP.
 
blackascoal said:
One can call it a scandal or not, but whatever you call it, it doesn't look good for democrats. Obama will never face an election again .. but many democrats will.

Obama Administration's Media Surveillance Unleashes Wave Of Condemnation

The Justice Department's investigation and surveillance of the Associated Press and Fox News have led to perhaps the most sustained wave of criticism for the Obama administration's media policies since the president took office.

On Wednesday, the New York Times became one of the more influential voices to say what many others have been saying: that the administration's methods are an attack on press freedom.

In a scathing editorial, the Times wrote that, "With the decision to label a Fox News television reporter a possible 'co-conspirator' in a criminal investigation of a news leak, the Obama administration has moved beyond protecting government secrets to threatening fundamental freedoms of the press to gather news."

The Times editorial described the Obama administration as going "overboard" with its investigations into leaks and threatening press freedom. The board added:

Obama administration officials often talk about the balance between protecting secrets and protecting the constitutional rights of a free press. Accusing a reporter of being a 'co-conspirator,' on top of other zealous and secretive investigations, shows a heavy tilt toward secrecy and insufficient concern about a free press.
The editorial was just one in a chorus of hard-hitting attacks on Obama's media policy that have surfaced in the wake of the Justice Department investigations. Journalists were outraged by both the AP and the Rosen cases, particularly the labeling of Rosen as a possible "co-conspirator" in a leak case for the crime of trying to get a source to give up information.

The New Yorker reported on Tuesday that the investigation into Rosen was even broader than previously suspected, as the DOJ seized records from at least five different numbers used by Fox News and two different White House lines.

That followed the Associated Press' revelation that the DOJ had secretly obtained months of phone records for at least seven individual journalists across 20 phone lines while searching for the government official responsible for leaking information about a CIA-thwarted terror plot.

The Times' criticism echoed that of many other journalists and press freedom groups.

On Tuesday, the board of the Committee to Protect Journalists sent an outraged letter to Attorney General Eric Holder, in which it warned that the DOJ's secret subpoenas for over 20 AP phone lines "represent a damaging setback for press freedom in the United States." This came on the heels of a letter signed by over 50 media outlets which made similar arguments.

Wednesday also saw Washington Post columnist Dana Milbank lash out at Obama:

The Rosen affair is as flagrant an assault on civil liberties as anything done by George W. Bush’s administration, and it uses technology to silence critics in a way Richard Nixon could only have dreamed of.
To treat a reporter as a criminal for doing his job — seeking out information the government doesn’t want made public — deprives Americans of the First Amendment freedom on which all other constitutional rights are based. Guns? Privacy? Due process? Equal protection? If you can’t speak out, you can’t defend those rights, either.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/22/obama-media-white-house-doj-investigations_n_3318748.html

Of course I find it more than a bit telling that SUDDENLY the press is outraged and doing their jobs investigating ..now that they are under attack .. when Obama has been violating the civil liberties of Americans since he's been in office.

Now they're mad.
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Here's the thing:

The Patriot Act made all this stuff quite "legal"...and the GOP and their supporters will defend that to the death. So why are they so surprised when the White House goes ahead and acts on it?

Yep, Obama and company are against whistle blowers and go after the press instead of the sources....but given what the GOP has done and is doing against the American people will most likely give the Dems the edge in 2016.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Here's the thing:

The Patriot Act made all this stuff quite "legal"...and the GOP and their supporters will defend that to the death. So why are they so surprised when the White House goes ahead and acts on it?

Yep, Obama and company are against whistle blowers and go after the press instead of the sources....but given what the GOP has done and is doing against the American people will most likely give the Dems the edge in 2016.
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Interesting, blaming the GOP for The Obama.

Ridiculous, but interesting.
 
DamnYankee said:
Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Here's the thing:

The Patriot Act made all this stuff quite "legal"...and the GOP and their supporters will defend that to the death. So why are they so surprised when the White House goes ahead and acts on it?

Yep, Obama and company are against whistle blowers and go after the press instead of the sources....but given what the GOP has done and is doing against the American people will most likely give the Dems the edge in 2016.
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Interesting, blaming the GOP for The Obama.

Ridiculous, but interesting.
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Actually, it's interesting how ridiculous you are in your never ending axe grinding.

Pay attention stupid, I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of the GOP and fools like you, who on one hand bend over the chair with a smile regarding the Patriot Act, and then wail like stuck pigs when Obama acts accordingly to the parameters of that Act.

As my last paragraph shows, I indeed blame Obama's administration for it's wrong doings against whistle blowers and the press regarding leaks. But, as I told BAC, given the heinous acts of the GOP in the last 5 years (voting against healthcare reform, veterans benefits, etc.), I think the Dems will have the edge in 2016.

Got that bunky?
 
Bfgrn said:
The New York Times eviscerates Obama White House? That CAN'T be. Everyone knows the New York Times is a liberal rag. They are 'in' on the lamestream media plan to parrot everything Obama says and does as coming from the hand of God.

You must be mistaken.
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I can't believe it either....the Times has a decade of liberal lies invested in this political conflict.....it can't be....

Jarod said:
Seriously, next thing you will be claiming is that MSNBC said something negative about Obama. Or that they cheerlead the Iraq War... You keep forgetting they are a liberal shill, that's the only way Obama got elected in the first place.
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And Jughead....MSNBC saying something negative about Obama ?......that sure as hell ain't gonna happen if they have anything to say about it.....but I ain't
gonna say that some pinhead in their employ won't have a flash of sanity and slip up once (it sure won't happen twice)....
 
blackascoal said:
One can call it a scandal or not, but whatever you call it, it doesn't look good for democrats. Obama will never face an election again .. but many democrats will.

Obama Administration's Media Surveillance Unleashes Wave Of Condemnation

The Justice Department's investigation and surveillance of the Associated Press and Fox News have led to perhaps the most sustained wave of criticism for the Obama administration's media policies since the president took office.

On Wednesday, the New York Times became one of the more influential voices to say what many others have been saying: that the administration's methods are an attack on press freedom.

In a scathing editorial, the Times wrote that, "With the decision to label a Fox News television reporter a possible 'co-conspirator' in a criminal investigation of a news leak, the Obama administration has moved beyond protecting government secrets to threatening fundamental freedoms of the press to gather news."

The Times editorial described the Obama administration as going "overboard" with its investigations into leaks and threatening press freedom. The board added:

Obama administration officials often talk about the balance between protecting secrets and protecting the constitutional rights of a free press. Accusing a reporter of being a 'co-conspirator,' on top of other zealous and secretive investigations, shows a heavy tilt toward secrecy and insufficient concern about a free press.
The editorial was just one in a chorus of hard-hitting attacks on Obama's media policy that have surfaced in the wake of the Justice Department investigations. Journalists were outraged by both the AP and the Rosen cases, particularly the labeling of Rosen as a possible "co-conspirator" in a leak case for the crime of trying to get a source to give up information.

The New Yorker reported on Tuesday that the investigation into Rosen was even broader than previously suspected, as the DOJ seized records from at least five different numbers used by Fox News and two different White House lines.

That followed the Associated Press' revelation that the DOJ had secretly obtained months of phone records for at least seven individual journalists across 20 phone lines while searching for the government official responsible for leaking information about a CIA-thwarted terror plot.

The Times' criticism echoed that of many other journalists and press freedom groups.

On Tuesday, the board of the Committee to Protect Journalists sent an outraged letter to Attorney General Eric Holder, in which it warned that the DOJ's secret subpoenas for over 20 AP phone lines "represent a damaging setback for press freedom in the United States." This came on the heels of a letter signed by over 50 media outlets which made similar arguments.

Wednesday also saw Washington Post columnist Dana Milbank lash out at Obama:

The Rosen affair is as flagrant an assault on civil liberties as anything done by George W. Bush’s administration, and it uses technology to silence critics in a way Richard Nixon could only have dreamed of.
To treat a reporter as a criminal for doing his job — seeking out information the government doesn’t want made public — deprives Americans of the First Amendment freedom on which all other constitutional rights are based. Guns? Privacy? Due process? Equal protection? If you can’t speak out, you can’t defend those rights, either.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/22/obama-media-white-house-doj-investigations_n_3318748.html

Of course I find it more than a bit telling that SUDDENLY the press is outraged and doing their jobs investigating ..now that they are under attack .. when Obama has been violating the civil liberties of Americans since he's been in office.

Now they're mad.
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I wonder which employee is going to be thrown under the bus, over this. :palm:
 
Jarod said:
I agree that the hatred for the black man is a stupid argument regarding this issue. When they were trying to cast Obama as, un-American and a person who does not understand "our" values and who did not grow up with "our" culture, there were certainty racial undertones.
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Obama understands our values and culture and STILL seized the phone records of a hundred reporters, the phone records of FOX reporters' parents, and some of
the FOX corporate phone records, and he didn't know it was against the civil rights laws to send the IRS goons after people just because they disagree with his policys....

No shit....is that what you think....moron.
 
Dungheap said:
I've heard it before, but rarely and not recently. Mostly I've heard it brought up much like you've brought it up - to pretend that people use it all the time when really they don't.
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I've heard it plenty, often and recently....its typical for the left especially when they don't refute what you tell them.....thats why it happens to often.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Here's the thing:

The Patriot Act made all this stuff quite "legal"...and the GOP and their supporters will defend that to the death. So why are they so surprised when the White House goes ahead and acts on it?

Yep, Obama and company are against whistle blowers and go after the press instead of the sources....but given what the GOP has done and is doing against the American people will most likely give the Dems the edge in 2016.
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Here's the thing....

The Patriot Act ain't what it used to be, nor is Homeland Defense....And now its obvious, neither is the IRS.....and none of it is "Bush's fault".....
so figure it our for yourself....
 
Taichiliberal said:
Here's the thing:

The Patriot Act made all this stuff quite "legal"...and the GOP and their supporters will defend that to the death. So why are they so surprised when the White House goes ahead and acts on it?

Yep, Obama and company are against whistle blowers and go after the press instead of the sources....but given what the GOP has done and is doing against the American people will most likely give the Dems the edge in 2016.
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Selective criticism, but it doesn't excuse what the WH did. We have an incredibly controlled media in this country, whither by corporations or the government. The government's just trying to get themselves a little more of an edge.
 
NOVA said:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Here's the thing:

The Patriot Act made all this stuff quite "legal"...and the GOP and their supporters will defend that to the death. So why are they so surprised when the White House goes ahead and acts on it?

Yep, Obama and company are against whistle blowers and go after the press instead of the sources....but given what the GOP has done and is doing against the American people will most likely give the Dems the edge in 2016.
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Here's the thing....

The Patriot Act ain't what it used to be, nor is Homeland Defense....And now its obvious, neither is the IRS.....and none of it is "Bush's fault".....
so figure it our for yourself....
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Says who? YOU? You just keep pulling stuff out of Limbaugh's ass with NO documentation what-so-ever. Point out ONE aspect, section or policy of the Patriot Act that Obama has removed or diluted. I dare you. Put up or STFU, you teabagging toadie!
 
Rose Captain said:
Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Here's the thing:

The Patriot Act made all this stuff quite "legal"...and the GOP and their supporters will defend that to the death. So why are they so surprised when the White House goes ahead and acts on it?

Yep, Obama and company are against whistle blowers and go after the press instead of the sources....but given what the GOP has done and is doing against the American people will most likely give the Dems the edge in 2016.
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Selective criticism, but it doesn't excuse what the WH did. Who said it did? I didn't, I'm just pointing out the partisan tunnel vision that the neocons and teabaggers have. We have an incredibly controlled media in this country, whither by corporations or the government. The government's just trying to get themselves a little more of an edge.
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They already have the edge, my friend. Just ask Roger Ailes, or Rupert Murdoch.
 
NOVA said:
Obama understands our values and culture and STILL seized the phone records of a hundred reporters, the phone records of FOX reporters' parents, and some of
the FOX corporate phone records, and he didn't know it was against the civil rights laws to send the IRS goons after people just because they disagree with his policys....

No shit....is that what you think....moron.
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Your allegations are simply not true.
 
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