Nuclear bluster and empty threats

Cypress said:
He has to get the military chain of command to follow his orders to deploy nukes.
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We've all seen the movies wherein the ' good guys ' refuse to launch. They're horseshit. Button-pushers are brainwashed .
 
moon said:
We've all seen the movies wherein the ' good guys ' refuse to launch. They're horseshit. Button-pushers are brainwashed .
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Wrong as usual

Vasily Aleksandrovich Arkhipov was a Soviet Naval officer credited with preventing a Soviet nuclear torpedo launch during the Cuban Missile Crisis. Such an attack likely would have caused a major global thermonuclear response. - Wikipedia
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Trump laughably speculated he could stop hurricanes by dropping nukes in them. I am one thousand percent confident the military chain of command would have refused such an order.
 
moon said:
Well- it's fashionable. Israeli fascists do it, US dumbasses do it, tyrannical Turks too.
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That's not a credible answer, I specifically asked you to give a credible answer for how Putin was defending Russia's borders by bombing Muslim cites in Syria to ash
 
Cypress said:
That's not a credible answer, I specifically asked you to give a credible answer for how Putin was defending Russia's borders by bombing Muslim cites in Syria to ash
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By the same token as the US defended America's borders by flattening Iraq.
 
Remember- nuclear weapons are designed and built and deployed by madmen. You think that they're going to put sane men in charge of them ?



Haw, haw...................................haw.
 
Caitlin Johnstone: So long as the fact that this war was provoked can be obscured, 'the sane path of de-escalation and detente will look like reckless appeasement of a madman, and aggressive escalations of nuclear brinkmanship will look like sanity...'
'The absurd position that Putin's an irrational actor with some kind of weird sexual fetish for war crimes is a one-way ticket to endlessly escalating war and eventual nuclear annihilation, because it leaves you with no options but continually intensifying military confrontation...'
'The internal logic of your narrative says the attacks on Russia must continue until you get regime change. There's no stopping point on your line of thinking until there's a direct hot confrontation between nuclear superpowers...'
'Marvel supervillains have more complexity than the one-dimensional characters the imperial spin machine concocts to represent its official enemies. Thanos was a more believable character with more understandable and nuanced motivations than the fictional representation of Putin.'

https://caitlinjohnstone.substack.c...qr6PxsVGiXt6Yz-DwhdowQOEsN6XiM8f56o4KiXVDXEFg
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Publicly reviling the enemy , daily, was mandatory in Orwell's accurate forecast.
 
Russia can only use battlefield nukes if China says yes, and because after that China would be hammered by sanctions if they did not abandon Russia (they wont) they must be ready to go head to head with the West now to say yes to Russia.

My vision fails me here.

I will watch.
 
Cypress said:
I think Putin has been privately warned that tactical nuclear strikes on Ukranians will trigger NATO air and missile strikes on occupying Russian forces in Ukraine
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Petraeus: US would destroy Russia’s troops if Putin uses nuclear weapons in Ukraine

"The US and its allies would destroy Russia’s troops and equipment in Ukraine – as well as sink its Black Sea fleet – if Russian president Vladimir Putin uses nuclear weapons in the country, former CIA director and retired four-star army general David Petraeus warned on Sunday."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...02/us-russia-putin-ukraine-war-david-petraeus
 
Cypress said:
Petraeus: US would destroy Russia’s troops if Putin uses nuclear weapons in Ukraine

"The US and its allies would destroy Russia’s troops and equipment in Ukraine – as well as sink its Black Sea fleet – if Russian president Vladimir Putin uses nuclear weapons in the country, former CIA director and retired four-star army general David Petraeus warned on Sunday."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...02/us-russia-putin-ukraine-war-david-petraeus
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The US military basically told Trump to go fuck himself when it came to Trump's efforts to become President-for-Life.

I wonder if the Russian military will do the same if Putin orders a nuclear strike.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
The US military basically told Trump to go fuck himself when it came to Trump's efforts to become President-for-Life.

I wonder if the Russian military will do the same if Putin orders a nuclear strike.
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There was a case in the Cuban missile crisis of a Soviet naval officer refusing to deploy nuclear torpedoes, so there is precedent for that
 
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