Now they admit to a Quid Pro Quo...

[Darth Omar]

Even when prosecuted in the Senate is is a political process, not a legal one. The rules are whatever the Senate decides are the rules.

It’s political in the sense they vote on it but there’s still a trial [cross examining the WB’s would be entertaining lol] that takes place.

Oh, and the majority party gets to decide the parameters.

 

[archives]

It’s political in the sense they vote on it but there’s still a trial [cross examining the WB’s would be entertaining lol] that takes place.

Oh, and the majority party gets to decide the parameters.

And the trial is public, meaning although the conclusion is obvious, Americans will hear all the revelations collected against Trump, he will win the litigation, but the Democrats could win the image

 

[StoneByStone]

Is that why Nancy won’t vote?

I want the cunt to vote. I am begging the cunt to vote.

Go on fucking record. No more games.

I want her to vote too. I don't agree with how she's playing politics. This isn't about politics, this is about real Americans holding Trump accountable.

 

[StoneByStone]

LIE and LAME.

FUCK! You got me.

 

[canceled.2021.3]

When is that?

Feb 3rd

 

[Ralph]

The Constitution, Article I, Section 3:
The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.

Judgment in Cases of Impeachments shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust, or Profit under the United States, but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment, and Punishmnet, according to Law.



AKA, as long as the Senate follows these rules they can do what they want as it relates to impeachment. They gave the power to the Senate not the Judiciary.

Yeah.....AS LONG AS THEY "FOLLOW THE RULES".....THEY CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT? Yeah....that makes sense if you have no cognitive relation to reason and logic. FOLLWING THE RULES IS NOT DOING WHAT YOU WANT. As stated one of the RULES is to hold a TRAIL under the conditions specified via the due process presented in the freaking constitution of the United States....

Read the part of the Constitution where it states that it is the HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVE(S)….plural, the entire house, both sides of the isle must be represented in any IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDING. An impeachment cannot be conducted by one side in a covert manner that robs the accused of all the rights of DUE PROCESS. Even a political impeachment is considered a LEGAL TRIBUNAL and must follow constitutional rules of conduct as well as the traditional parliamentary laws of order.

No where does the constitution declare that the SPEAKER can make up the rules of conduct as they go.

 

[Ralph]

Its not a legal hearing, but the Republicans will have the right to cross-examine witnesses and subpoena witnesses, The president always as every right to investigate anything he wants to investigate in any legal way he chooses.

Now read your own words you quoted from the US CONSTITUTION in post 78. That is in consideration that you have already contradicted your own argument in the same sentence....You declare its not a LEGAL HEARING....but the president has every LEGAL RIGHT....yeah, Then you can read from the Constitution itself from your post #78, "The senate shall hold a TRIAL...……." Yeah....but its not legal....really its not? You are just telling us there is no legal penalty if a POTUS is found guilty of the charges? Strange....it seems that Slick Willy Blow Job Bill had his license to practice LAW revoked as a LEGAL PENALTY during an investigation as part of a formal impeachment hearing.

Damn....leave it up to a dim witted liberal to argue about an APPLE and then hold up an ORGANGE as evidence that he is correct.

 

[Teflon Don]

Teflon Don Post in response to my thread
I don’t think I would be sad if I learned you were shot and killed. Or better yet your entire family. And if it was done by an illegal, I would dance a jig
"I don’t think I would be sad if I learned you were shot and killed. Or better yet your entire family. And if it was done by an illegal, I would dance a jig."
Yup the voice of the right. Lovely group. I just for the first time in any forum gone to the people who run it and demanded that they throw this guy out of the whole forum not just this thread. These killers can't be supported. We will see if these people who run this group will do anything. So far nothing this pile of shit should be thrown out complete. If you except this shit , you own it. Get Rid of him.

Would you like me to rewrite this screed so it is a bit more coherent?

You aren’t going to get me banned. Save yourself some time

 

[Gonzomin]

You obviously didn’t understand what he said. Or are purposely misrepresenting it. No. He asked them to investigate corruption tied to 2016 campaign. Not about Biden.

You are trying to conflate things.

But if you think this is an admission then Nancy has him right where she wants him and should vote right now

No need for an investigation. According to you, you have everything you need

Quick question though. In the entire history of this country have we ever had strings attached to foreign aid? If so, is that quid pro quo?

WSJ released a report that Trump asked Ukraine to investigate Biden's son many times. It was all about the Bidens and the 2020 election.

 

[Gonzomin]

It didn't relate to the Biden probe.
Mulvaney said that the withholding of aid was due in part because Trump wanted Ukraine to investigate the possibility that elements in that country had somehow interfered in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

It was stupider than that. Trump believes Ukraine interfered in the election to help Hillary and the Russians did nothing. He also thinks for some crazy reason, her server wound up there. How stupid is he? Nobody can be ignorant or illogical enough to think that makes sense.

 

[Darth Omar]

It was stupider than that. Trump believes Ukraine interfered in the election to help Hillary and the Russians did nothing. He also thinks for some crazy reason, her server wound up there. How stupid is he? Nobody can be ignorant or illogical enough to think that makes sense.

Well, where IS the damn thing lol?

The media is being obediently incurious about that. Why don’t they trot out their ‘fact checkers’ and prove Trump wrong? The media never, ever, passes on an opportunity to prove Trump wrong.

Yet there’s nothing but crickets. Is the quid pro quo business a deflection?

And I’m glad someone is curious about whether corrupt little Ukraine was mixed up in our politics. And if it happens to be the president—all the better.

 

[Tranquillus in Exile]

Well, where IS the damn thing lol?
The media is being obediently incurious about that. Why don’t they trot out their ‘fact checkers’ and prove Trump wrong?

How would fact checkers prove that the server is NOT in Ukraine? By finding it somewhere else, I guess. The story so far:

The Ukrainian conspiracy theory, which started as speculation on internet message boards in 2017 and was taken up by Trump, Giuliani and others, seeks to blame Ukraine instead of Russia for interfering in the 2016 US presidential election. The main points are:

Ukraine interfered in the election to benefit Hillary Clinton, in collaboration with the DNC, the digital forensics company CrowdStrike, and the FBI. CrowdStrike, which investigated a hack of the DNC server in 2016, planted false evidence to implicate Russia. (This ploy was spectacularly successful: the entire US intelligence community believes that Russia did it.) Trump further asserted that Ukraine was in possession of the server. The theory later evolved to include allegations of corruption by Joe Biden and Hunter Biden in Ukraine.

As there is no evidence to support any of this, President Trump has repeatedly urged the new Ukrainian government to find some (possibly to facilitate US military aid, as stated then denied by acting chief of staff Mulvaney). So far, no luck.

 

[Darth Omar]

How would fact checkers prove that the server is NOT in Ukraine? By finding it somewhere else, I guess. The story so far:

The Ukrainian conspiracy theory, which started as speculation on internet message boards in 2017 and was taken up by Trump, Giuliani and others, seeks to blame Ukraine instead of Russia for interfering in the 2016 US presidential election. The main points are:

Ukraine interfered in the election to benefit Hillary Clinton, in collaboration with the DNC, the digital forensics company CrowdStrike, and the FBI. CrowdStrike, which investigated a hack of the DNC server in 2016, planted false evidence to implicate Russia. (This ploy was spectacularly successful: the entire US intelligence community believes that Russia did it.) Trump further asserted that Ukraine was in possession of the server. The theory later evolved to include allegations of corruption by Joe Biden and Hunter Biden in Ukraine.

As there is no evidence to support any of this, President Trump has repeatedly urged the new Ukrainian government to find some (possibly to facilitate US military aid, as stated then denied by acting chief of staff Mulvaney). So far, no luck.

Well, there’s some evidence lol:

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446

 

[Micawber]

Now do you think what Rump did was wrong?


You spend weeks denying a QPQ, how do you feel now that they admit it?

Whether a gaff or a "trial balloon," anything the Trump administration says, through Trump or proxy, is usually atrocious, deplorable and abhorrent to civilized norms
we expect of our govt and the accountability of Potus or limit to his power, and has a tendency to normalize whatever the "balloon" is with his base of idgitz.

In this case the astounding admission that quite reasonably has Dems outraged has Trump's minions questioning premises that are bedrock ethical and legal
ground. "Well, if you think about it, what is wrong with murder anyway" "Get over it"

If the balloon doesn't float, Trump can walk it back by lying or make the surrogate deny his own words while the senators who support Trump do the same, unable to
even look the camera in the lens, with the foul stench of their lies so cloying they can scarcely breathe as they scurry away smirking.

 

[artichoke]

We do that [insert crime here] all the time in the US!

Even if that is true, which it isn't, it is no defense.

Democrats--the people who lie to federal judges to make DNC-funded dossiers look like legitimate intelligence to enable illegal spying...the people who threaten to pull funding unless Ukrainian prosecutors stop investigating their corrupt sons--demand that the standards suddenly be completely reversed to persecute someone they don't like for "crimes" that only Democrats actually commit.

 

[jbander]

Democrats--the people who lie to federal judges to make DNC-funded dossiers look like legitimate intelligence to enable illegal spying...the people who threaten to pull funding unless Ukrainian prosecutors stop investigating their corrupt sons--demand that the standards suddenly be completely reversed to persecute someone they don't like for "crimes" that only Democrats actually commit.

Endless non stop and boring as hell lies.

 

[Jarod]

Quid Pro Don is your fav liar!

 

[Teflon Don]

Does running for President inoculate Biden against being investigated for potential crimes?

Is it a get out of jail free card

I think it is hilarious that JPP leftists are overlooking Hunter Biden’s white privilege.

 

[jbander]

Does running for President inoculate Biden against being investigated for potential crimes?

Is it a get out of jail free card

I think it is hilarious that JPP leftists are overlooking Hunter Biden’s white privilege.

Pimple man, Pimple man, don't try to expand your realm of three word comments here, you can't handle that big guy stuff yet, Keep it simple. is your best bet.

 

[Jarod]

Does running for President inoculate Biden against being investigated for potential crimes?

Is it a get out of jail free card

I think it is hilarious that JPP leftists are overlooking Hunter Biden’s white privilege.

No, but that does not mean the President gets to head up when and why he gets investigated.