NOW - Multiple people shot at Michigan State University

[SmarterthanYou]

I know, you're the guy who thinks everyone in America should be packing, carrying around semiautomatic weapons cause you never know when then guy next to you is going to open fire

Have you ever noticed that by and large the States with strict gun laws rank low in terms of gun victims than those that are gun open States? You don’t think there might be a correlation there do you?

no correlation at all, but what I HAVE noticed is that when one looks closer to things like 'cities' with high violence, chicago as an example, gun control advocates simply like to point fingers somewhere else to avoid their failures.

 

[TOP]

Sure it will, by Monday it will be old news outside of Michigan, might even be another by then, and can’t say those on the right don’t consider it normal when with numbers climbing they aren’t motivated to do anything but crush attempted reform and offer “prayers and condolences”

Please feel free to show me anything written by anyone who considers these tragedies normal..... and what anyone or any
"Reform" could have done to prevent this... you know what would have prevented this? If he had been in jail as he should have been.....

 

[Yakuda]

That’s the same lame excuse you see all the time, tell us exactly what would you have done to how would you have prevented something that just happened, certainly not living with what exists, 40,000+ a year and increasing deaths a year prove that ain’t working

Perhaps if common sense restrictions on gun access had been instituted years ago perhaps this and the ever increasing number of school/mass shootings would have been reduced, hell, even an individual on the terrorist watch list can walk into a gun store and purchase a gun legally

It's not an excuse it's a challenge. It's easy to whine but it's much more difficult to actually do something constructive.

"Common sense restrictions" like what? Do you own a gun? Ever tried to buy a gun?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Everybody thinks they are Freud

Freud was a psychiatrist, dumbass.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

stop threatening me, spook. or fucking do it, pussy.

1/6 was a slightly out of control demonstration.

^^^
Imagines he’s being threatened so he can feel justified to commit mass murder in self-defense.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Please feel free to show me anything written by anyone who considers these tragedies normal..... and what anyone or any
"Reform" could have done to prevent this... you know what would have prevented this? If he had been in jail as he should have been.....

OK BUT:

Any offender who is convicted and facing sentencing in Michigan is provided a Sentence Guideline (SGL) score during their pre-sentence investigation. The SGL score provides the court with guidance for a sentence recommendation. It is a routine matter in nearly all criminal cases that the recommended sentence is not the same as the legal maximum. Even if he were convicted by a jury of the original charge, Anthony McRae would not have been recommended for a jail or prison sentence. The sentencing guideline score would have been the same if he had been convicted of either the original charge (Carrying a Concealed Weapon) or the offense for which he was convicted (carrying a firearm in a vehicle).

https://www.wilx.com/2023/02/14/prosecutor-releases-criminal-history-msu-shooter/

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Hi! I’m Legion’s tiny penis. Although Legion misses his balls since Damo cut them off, I’ve found living alone to be quite “roomy”.

I can see why you’d have more room, Mini-Legion, but I doubt it’s that much roomier.

 

[Nordberg]

I would trust a 55 year old guy that's been a member of the NRA for 25 years with a CCW


Over a 22 year old cop with a hot head that thinks he is a badass Wyatt Earp

Why? I would not. If I had my way, neither one would be able to get a gun without a very serious reason.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Why? I would not. If I had my way, neither one would be able to get a gun without a very serious reason.

Serious being defined I am sure "Reason that I approve of".

 

[Nordberg]

Freud was a psychiatrist, dumbass.

Nope he was not. https://www.madinamerica.com/2017/1... a psychiatrist,the interplay between the two.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

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Nope he was not. https://www.madinamerica.com/2017/1... a psychiatrist,the interplay between the two.

Although I can see the argument, I disagree. He was the founder of psychoanalysis, the basis of psychiatry.

https://www.britannica.com/science/psychoanalysis
psychoanalysis, method of treating mental disorders, shaped by psychoanalytic theory, which emphasizes unconscious mental processes and is sometimes described as “depth psychology.” The psychoanalytic movement originated in the clinical observations and formulations of Austrian psychiatrist Sigmund Freud, who coined the term psychoanalysis.

 

[LurchAddams]

1 killed after U-Haul truck drives into pedestrians in Brooklyn, source says, and at least 7 others injured




Not one thread on that....cant blame a gun

I saw that. The asshole is 62.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

1 killed after U-Haul truck drives into pedestrians in Brooklyn, source says, and at least 7 others injured

Not one thread on that....cant blame a gun

That’s because 1) everyone in NY drives like that and 2) you only post threads with an African-American murderer, not Asian ones.

Notice the commonality of both murderers: mental illness. You should get yourself checked, vols.

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

Since there's already a thread on this I'll ask a different question. My understanding, and please correct me if I'm wrong, is that murders peaked in this country sometime during the '70's through the early 90's. We've had an increase in murders since COVID but compared to that previously referenced time it's still below. But even though murder numbers are currently lower, we have had more mass shootings.

What caused this change? Is it simply a matter of people wanted to commit more mass shootings during the '70's and '80's but didn't have the weaponry to do so? Or did something change in society/our culture that is causing it? Or something else?

I am not smart enough to know the answers, but I like the questions being asked SIR!

I would like to just ask this question of our forum Members participating in this thread- DO YOU PEOPLE WANT TO KILL EACH OTHER?

 

[cawacko]

I am not smart enough to know the answers, but I like the questions being asked SIR!

I would like to just ask this question of our forum Members participating in this thread- DO YOU PEOPLE WANT TO KILL EACH OTHER?

I'm not a gun person so I can't speak to the type of weapons that were around in the 70's, 80's and early 90's. So it wasn't a rhetorical question when I asked would people have committed more mass shootings during that time but couldn't because of the lack of fire power? Or were the same time of weapons around but mass shootings were just far less common.

Mental illness is obviously a problem in some/maybe many mass shootings. But mental illness isn't new either.

I don't pretend to know the answers to this and I'm not sure there is any easy answer.

 

[Monad Portal]

^^^
Imagines he’s being threatened so he can feel justified to commit mass murder in self-defense.

I will not defend myself.

come do it, bitch.

If you strike me down now, i will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.

 

[Theywillneverlearn!]

Case in point, one was killed by the uhaul, three by the shooter.

Do you understand how many safety regulations there are on uhaul's?

Only 3???? He was not a shooter. Only some disgruntled democrat with a gun.

 

[PostmodernProphet]

Chill out uncle. It's not like we couldn't tell it was you anyway. You made the same asinine comments as you did as uncle. Stupid is stupid the only difference is it's name is now doc dutch

Dutch/Perry by any other name is still a monkey's Uncle......

 

[PostmodernProphet]

I wonder why East Lansing doesn't already have the strictest gun control laws in the state........oh wait.....they do......

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

I'm not a gun person so I can't speak to the type of weapons that were around in the 70's, 80's and early 90's. So it wasn't a rhetorical question when I asked would people have committed more mass shootings during that time but couldn't because of the lack of fire power? Or were the same time of weapons around but mass shootings were just far less common.

Mental illness is obviously a problem in some/maybe many mass shootings. But mental illness isn't new either.

I don't pretend to know the answers to this and I'm not sure there is any easy answer.

Well, AR-15's have been around since the late 50's. They were never involved in mass shootings for 40 years. There was a 10-year ban passed by the U.S. Congress on August 25, 1994 and was signed into law by President Bill Clinton on September 13, 1994. But in 2004, the law was never re-initiated and they became legal again.

But, many gas-fired semi-automatic hi-capacity weapons with interchangeable magazines were used in crimes when the AR-15's were banned like the first memorable mass School Shooting at Columbine High School in 1999! That school Shooting kicked off many copy-cat mass school shootings till this day, and AR-15's seem to be the weapons of choice since they came back on the market.

My answer to all of this is creating a license system, and a registration system handled by each state's Public Safety departments - LIKE WE DO AUTOMOBILES.

Automobiles and Guns are both Public Safety issues.

But every time I mention this, I get death threats in the mail!

When I was just trying to help- Help keep the public safe- while maintaining people's 2nd Amendment Rights.

I do not believe that laws prevent crime- I DO BELIEVE THEY ARE PUT IN PLACE TO DETER CRIMES.

I mean if they do not- THEN LET'S JUST FUCKING DO AWAY WITH ALL OF THE FUCKING LAWS and let's just have total fucking CHAOS!

We'll all just go down and buy the guns of our choice, and it's every man, woman, and child for themselves. You know like the OLD WEST!

It can't be much worse than what we have today with the GUN CRISIS!