"Even if Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Byrd succeed in their effort, it is not clear whether President Bush would have to withdraw troops, or if he could resist by claiming that Congress cannot withdraw its earlier authorization but instead has to deny money for the war to achieve that result. "
I don't he will abide it, even if passed. You have two choices here, you defund the damned war, or you impeach him. And you can line up and call people who say this moonbats and left wing nuts, but the facts remain that there are two ways to stop this war. Impeach Dick Cheney and President Bush, or completely defund the war. If you defund the war, I think that Cypress is correct and he will leave the troops there anyway, and as the body count rachets up, he will say the democrats are killing our troops because they won't fund them. So, Impeachment, however "radical" someone might think it is (though I note it was not radical when someone got a FREAKING BLOWJOB) is the only route. Anything other than impeachment and people continue to die until January of 09, when we get a new President. That is a moral decision this country must make. They want the war done with, what are they willing to DO ABOUT IT. Because sitting around bullshitting in your living room...pretty much meaningless.
Clinton Proposes Vote to Reverse Authorizing War
By CARL HULSE and PATRICK HEALY
WASHINGTON, May 3 — Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton proposed Thursday that Congress repeal the authority it gave President Bush in 2002 to invade Iraq, injecting presidential politics into the Congressional debate over financing the war.
Mrs. Clinton’s proposal brings her full circle on Iraq — she supported the war measure five years ago — and it sharpens her own political positioning at a time when Democrats are vying to confront the White House.
“It is time to reverse the failed policies of President Bush and to end this war as soon as possible,” Mrs. Clinton said as she joined Senator Robert C. Byrd, Democrat of West Virginia, in calling for a vote to end the authority as of Oct. 11, the fifth anniversary of the original vote.
Her stance emerged just as Congressional leaders and the White House opened delicate negotiations over a new war-financing measure to replace the one that Mr. Bush vetoed Tuesday.
Even if Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Byrd succeed in their effort, it is not clear whether President Bush would have to withdraw troops, or if he could resist by claiming that Congress cannot withdraw its earlier authorization but instead has to deny money for the war to achieve that result.
The question could prompt a constitutional debate over war powers that only the federal courts could resolve.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/04/washington/04cong.html?hp=&pagewanted=print
I don't he will abide it, even if passed. You have two choices here, you defund the damned war, or you impeach him. And you can line up and call people who say this moonbats and left wing nuts, but the facts remain that there are two ways to stop this war. Impeach Dick Cheney and President Bush, or completely defund the war. If you defund the war, I think that Cypress is correct and he will leave the troops there anyway, and as the body count rachets up, he will say the democrats are killing our troops because they won't fund them. So, Impeachment, however "radical" someone might think it is (though I note it was not radical when someone got a FREAKING BLOWJOB) is the only route. Anything other than impeachment and people continue to die until January of 09, when we get a new President. That is a moral decision this country must make. They want the war done with, what are they willing to DO ABOUT IT. Because sitting around bullshitting in your living room...pretty much meaningless.
Clinton Proposes Vote to Reverse Authorizing War
By CARL HULSE and PATRICK HEALY
WASHINGTON, May 3 — Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton proposed Thursday that Congress repeal the authority it gave President Bush in 2002 to invade Iraq, injecting presidential politics into the Congressional debate over financing the war.
Mrs. Clinton’s proposal brings her full circle on Iraq — she supported the war measure five years ago — and it sharpens her own political positioning at a time when Democrats are vying to confront the White House.
“It is time to reverse the failed policies of President Bush and to end this war as soon as possible,” Mrs. Clinton said as she joined Senator Robert C. Byrd, Democrat of West Virginia, in calling for a vote to end the authority as of Oct. 11, the fifth anniversary of the original vote.
Her stance emerged just as Congressional leaders and the White House opened delicate negotiations over a new war-financing measure to replace the one that Mr. Bush vetoed Tuesday.
Even if Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Byrd succeed in their effort, it is not clear whether President Bush would have to withdraw troops, or if he could resist by claiming that Congress cannot withdraw its earlier authorization but instead has to deny money for the war to achieve that result.
The question could prompt a constitutional debate over war powers that only the federal courts could resolve.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/04/washington/04cong.html?hp=&pagewanted=print
