NOAA says there is no statistically increased trend in hurricanes since 1851

Taichiliberal said:
And yet:



Hurricanes draw their strength from warm ocean waters. So as the ocean continues to absorb heat, should we expect to see more intense hurricanes, tropical storms and typhoons?

Probably, according to recent research led by NOAA scientists. The research, which analyzed findings from over 90 peer-reviewed studies, found that warming of the surface ocean from human-caused climate change is likely fueling more powerful tropical cyclones. And as sea levels rise, the destructive power of tropical cyclones is amplified, as higher sea levels can result in more intense flooding. ⁣NOAA scientists have also concluded that climate change has been influencing the pattern of where tropical cyclones have been increasing or decreasing in occurrence. Researchers are still working to understand the link between climate and hurricanes - check out this page for the most up-to-date science.

https://research.noaa.gov/article/A...-answering-big-questions-about-climate-change


Once again, you're corporate/right wing myopia only sees what you want to see. Carry on.
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Contrary information from the very same source as the OP. Outside of sheer denial, supposition and conjecture and idiotic babbling from 1 registered MAGA troll....silence. Not surprising.
 
martin said:
The banging is on you, dumbbell. You cite NOAA when it suits you, ignore or refute them when the science clashes with your fantasy.
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He didn’t cite NOAA. He cited Chris Martz’s interpretation of NOAA data. Cherry picked, too, BTW.
 
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No doubt the AMS are wrong as well according to amateur climatologists on here. Marty is it a spike or a trend?

Abstract

Continental United States (CONUS) hurricane-related inflation-adjusted damage has increased significantly since 1900. However, since 1900 neither observed CONUS landfalling hurricane frequency nor intensity shows significant trends, including the devastating 2017 season.

Two large-scale climate modes that have been noted in prior research to significantly impact CONUS landfalling hurricane activity are El Niño–Southern Oscillation on interannual time scales and the Atlantic multidecadal oscillation on multidecadal time scales. La Niña seasons tend to be characterized by more CONUS hurricane landfalls than El Niño seasons, and positive Atlantic multidecadal oscillation phases tend to have more CONUS hurricane landfalls than negative phases.

Growth in coastal population and regional wealth are the overwhelming drivers of observed increases in hurricane-related damage. As the population and wealth of the United States has increased in coastal locations, it has invariably led to the growth in exposure and vulnerability of coastal property along the U.S. Gulf and East Coasts. Unfortunately, the risks associated with more people and vulnerable exposure came to fruition in Texas and Florida during the 2017 season following the landfalls of Hurricanes Harvey and Irma. Total economic damage from those two storms exceeded $125 billion. Growth in coastal population and exposure is likely to continue in the future, and when hurricane landfalls do occur, this will likely lead to greater damage costs than previously seen. Such a statement is made recognizing that the vast scope of damage from hurricanes often highlights the effectiveness (or lack thereof) of building codes, flood maps, infrastructure, and insurance in at-risk communities.

https://doi.org/10.1175/BAMS-D-17-0184.1
 
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Primavera said:
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But what the fuck do they know anyway, when you have the likes of McMoonshi'ite, Madwitch, Barfly Effete, Poor Dick, Arsecheese and Nonads.

Since 1851, there has been no statistically significant trend in either hurricane (slightly down) or major hurricane (flat) landfall frequency.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1575822290431770624
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Ummm...looks like you missed some parts:

'Scientists say that while the historical record shows an increase in the numbers of Atlantic hurricanes since the early 1900s, this record does not reflect how much easier it has become to identify hurricanes since we began using satellites. Once this is factored in, scientists say there has been no significant overall increase in Atlantic hurricanes since the late 1800s.

On a shorter timeframe, however, the numbers of Atlantic hurricanes have increased, much of it beginning in 1995, as the tropical North Atlantic warmed and atmospheric conditions became conducive to increased hurricane activity, similar to what occurred during the mid-20th century.'

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Human-caused increases in greenhouse gases have very likely contributed to the warming of tropical North Atlantic sea-surface temperatures observed over the past century. The World Meteorological Organization in 2010 concluded that by the late 21st century greenhouse warming is not expected to increase the number of tropical cyclones, but is expected to increase the average intensity of tropical cyclones. Near-storm rainfall rates are also expected to increase.'

https://www.noaa.gov/explainers/hurricane-forecasting


Let the war of the 'doom-and-gloomer's' versus the 'climate change deniers'...continue...

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McRocket said:
Ummm...looks like you missed some parts:

'Scientists say that while the historical record shows an increase in the numbers of Atlantic hurricanes since the early 1900s, this record does not reflect how much easier it has become to identify hurricanes since we began using satellites. Once this is factored in, scientists say there has been no significant overall increase in Atlantic hurricanes since the late 1800s.

On a shorter timeframe, however, the numbers of Atlantic hurricanes have increased, much of it beginning in 1995, as the tropical North Atlantic warmed and atmospheric conditions became conducive to increased hurricane activity, similar to what occurred during the mid-20th century.'

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Human-caused increases in greenhouse gases have very likely contributed to the warming of tropical North Atlantic sea-surface temperatures observed over the past century. The World Meteorological Organization in 2010 concluded that by the late 21st century greenhouse warming is not expected to increase the number of tropical cyclones, but is expected to increase the average intensity of tropical cyclones. Near-storm rainfall rates are also expected to increase.'

https://www.noaa.gov/explainers/hurricane-forecasting


Let the war of the 'doom-and-gloomer's' versus the 'climate change deniers'...continue...

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There is a vast difference between a sceptic and denier, I think you know that well enough. You should also know that scepticism is integral to the scientific method, if you don't then there's not much more to be said. Anybody who tells you the science is settled is either a fool or a liar and quite probably both.

If somebody uses the term climate denier that tells me straight away that they are not from a scientific background and are usually not very bright.
 
There have always been severe hurricanes in the Gulf of Mexico. The Galveston hurricane of 1900 killed between 6,000 to 12,000 people and is the deadliest natural disaster to ever hit America. I lived through Carla and it was a very bad one also. I also fled the path of Camille it was another very bad one. I ate at a Howard Johnson in Biloxi a day or two before Camille flattened it. I saw the same restaurant on the national news and it was rubble. So Ian is nothing new.
 
Primavera said:
There is a vast difference between a sceptic and denier, I think you know that well enough. You should also know that scepticism is integral to the scientific method, if you don't then there's not much more to be said. Anybody who tells you the science is settled is either a fool or a liar and quite probably both.

If somebody uses the term climate denier that tells me straight away that they are not from a scientific background and are usually not very bright.
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We have had climate change since before we have been on Earth.
 
Primavera said:
That's your favourite phrase matey, everything is cherry picked according to you.
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Citing just hurricanes, then just landfall hurricanes vs all severe weather or all hurricanes is cherry picking.

The statement of no statistical difference is his interpretation. I saw no statistical breakdown.
 
Primavera said:
But what the fuck do they know anyway, when you have the likes of McMoonshi'ite, Madwitch, Barfly Effete, Poor Dick, Arsecheese and Nonads.

Since 1851, there has been no statistically significant trend in either hurricane (slightly down) or major hurricane (flat) landfall frequency.
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Climate HOAXSTERS don't give a shit about facts or reality. This isn't even about climate, but about political control. When you can frighten the masses, they allow more Government control which is all these fraudulent Fascists care about.
 
martin said:
Those six and deniers like yourself. Since when have you, and the moron who seconded your thread below your own post, accepted NOAA as knowing something about climate history?
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What makes you think this is about climate dipshit? :palm:
 
Jarod said:
Size and strength however is a different story. But good job finding a narrow category you can use to support a right wing talking point.
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What do you mean by "right wing" talking point? It appears to mean fact-based point which leftists like you hate and try to avoid. Are there "left wing" talking points in the delusional world you wallow in?
 
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