No, Trump Isn’t Guilty of Incitement

Niche Political Commentor said:
trump isn't responsible for violence when he was saying the same things abrams was saying during a mostly peaceful protest.
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We are talking, not just about the comments trump made at that time, but the comments he made every single day for the past two months or more.

Only a fucking idiot would call that a mostly peaceful protest with 5 people dead.
 
volsrock said:
No, Trump Isn’t Guilty of Incitement

Inflaming emotions isn’t a crime. The president didn’t mention violence, much less provoke it.


House Democrats have drafted an article of impeachment that accuses President Trump of “incitement to insurrection.” Acting U.S. Attorney Michael Sherwin said Thursday that his office is “looking at all actors here and anyone that had a role” in the Capitol riot. Some reporters have construed that as including Mr. Trump.

The president didn’t commit incitement or any other crime. I should know. As a Washington prosecutor I earned the nickname “protester prosecutor” from the antiwar group CodePink. In one trial, I convicted 31 protesters who disrupted congressional traffic by obstructing the Capitol Crypt. In another, I convicted a CodePink activist who smeared her hands with fake blood, charged at then-Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in a House hearing room, and incited the audience to seize the secretary of state physically. In other cases, I dropped charges when the facts fell short of the legal standard for incitement. One such defendant was the antiwar activist Cindy Sheehan.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/no-tru...rYcRpGgVhFsDCbWWHTNMPnNdkJfgP3NJ1MlpvqYIfljEg

The president didn’t mention violence on Wednesday, much less provoke or incite it. He said, “I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.”
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Since when is the PHONY media and the liars in the Party of the Jackass concerned with the truth or any facts? :thumbsup:
 
floridafan said:
Naturally you neglected to mention the many attempts this president has made to inflame his supporters by pretending the election was illegal and in reality he had won by thousands of votes. A message that was repeated over and over to those who would believe anything he tells them.
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Show us ONE statement that incited any violence or break-ins at the Capital you low IQ, lying little cunt.

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floridafan said:
Once again I mention every single attempt he has made to make his followers believe that the election was illegal, that he had won handily and that it was stolen away from him.
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Once again, he didn't "incite" a riot shit-for-brains. Try to be less of a boorish moron.

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Mr.Badguy said:
Oh, so NOW you want to take him at his word, but for the past 4 years when we've done that, it's all "he really meant THIS".
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Oh, so now you don't like protests nor condone burning, looting and tearing down monuments and suddenly support a strong police presence. STFU you lying hypocrite. :rolleyes:
 
Darth Omar said:
That’s not going to fly.

In order to incite an insurrection you have to *intend* for one to occur and it needs to be explicitly stated.

But go ahead and over reach, again. Between this and the literal *purging* of conservative voices on major platforms it’s becoming clear that the left is going to use this opportunity [more of a gift, from from some very stupid individuals] to go full China.

They will quickly blow through whatever political capital that was gained by last Wednesday.
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Trump's words: "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard. Today, we will see whether Republicans stand strong for integrity of our elections. But whether or not they stand strong for our country, our country. Our country has been under siege for a long time. Far longer than this four year period."
 
floridafan said:
Personally my dear, I couldn't give a fuck what you think or spew. You have spent 4 years defending every dumb, idiotic, dangerous, or stupid thing this President has done. There is nothing he could ever say or do that would in the least bother you.
In you favor, I know you would never join the hordes in DC, because you are a little cowardly cunt.
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Poor Richard Saunders said:
Deflection becomes you so well and only proves you are an idiot.

You get multiple facts wrong so you try to pretend I don't know what "unrest" means.

But when you go look at the entire sentence by Pressley it is quite clear she is not calling for people to be beat up.

"This is as much about public outcry and organizing and mobilizing and applying pressure so that this GOP-led Senate and these governors that continue to carry water for this administration, putting the American people in harm’s way, turning a deaf ear to the needs of our families and our communities — hold them accountable," she said.

"Make the phone calls, send the emails, show up," she added. "You know, there needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there’s unrest in our lives."

Fact. No couple was pulled from their truck.
Fact. No man was beat within an inch of his life
Fact. Pressley's statement was the morning of August 15. The beating incident was the evening of August 16. Over 36 hours later.
Opinion. You are a racist idiot. (You seem determined to turn that opinion into fact.)

Perhaps you should use your dictionary to look up "public outctry", "phone calls", and "emails". Then go look at the first definition of "unrest." Now tell us which definition was the likely one Pressley used. Are you saying the Police riot and attack black and brown people?
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Link to where Trump called for people to be beat up etc
 
Poor Richard Saunders said:
Deflection becomes you so well and only proves you are an idiot.

You get multiple facts wrong so you try to pretend I don't know what "unrest" means.

But when you go look at the entire sentence by Pressley it is quite clear she is not calling for people to be beat up.

"This is as much about public outcry and organizing and mobilizing and applying pressure so that this GOP-led Senate and these governors that continue to carry water for this administration, putting the American people in harm’s way, turning a deaf ear to the needs of our families and our communities — hold them accountable," she said.

"Make the phone calls, send the emails, show up," she added. "You know, there needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there’s unrest in our lives."

Fact. No couple was pulled from their truck.
Fact. No man was beat within an inch of his life
Fact. Pressley's statement was the morning of August 15. The beating incident was the evening of August 16. Over 36 hours later.
Opinion. You are a racist idiot. (You seem determined to turn that opinion into fact.)

Perhaps you should use your dictionary to look up "public outctry", "phone calls", and "emails". Then go look at the first definition of "unrest." Now tell us which definition was the likely one Pressley used. Are you saying the Police riot and attack black and brown people?
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[VIDEO] Black Lives Matter mob pulls Portland man out of truck, beat him unconscious…

https://therightscoop.com/video-bla...rtland-man-out-of-truck-beat-him-unconscious/
 
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