No Suitcase Of Ballots. Lie Publicly Debunked

LurchAddams said:
Bill Barr is just as bad as all of them. Even after our democracy was threatened he said he's still vote for trump if he's the nominee in 2024.. McConnell, same thing

Do you see why my saying "Republicans are evil" is actually NOT hyperbole?
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I know, basically call him a deranged madmen, but it’s okay, I’d vote for him, again, WTF? So he can do worse next time?
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Damo,



I know no such thing. I never saw the video. And the fact that it has not been posted here causes me to think it is fictitious.
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It was most certainly posted here. LOL. During the whole mess and buildup to 1/6.

If you want to see it yourself it was this video I believe.

 
From Trump statements in Jan 6 Hearing: Notice he says the results were fraudulent because he expected to wing. Not, they were fraudulent--BUT THAT HE EXPECTED TO WIN.
 
BartenderElite said:
Is that an "I still want to believe" post?
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Celticguy.. another huge troll on this site. No brain.

Also again, although it's his business - Celticguy was born a man, but is currently surgically transitioning to a woman. We will soon have to call her, "Celticgirl". We should just be respectful and start doing that now.

I would but I would have to take Celticgirl off ignore. I can't do that until my hemorrhoids go away. I can stand only one pain in my ass at once. Please understand.
 
Celticguy said:
it was a 'you have not debunked anything here' post.

and if the congressional panel was in any sense unbiased many this present themselves as questionable.
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Yep, it was a "still want to believe" post.

It was thoroughly investigated & debunked. Read the OP again. As was pretty much every crazy claim that came out the 1st few weeks after the election. Wheelbarrows full of ballots getting burned - we've got pictures!

You know what fraud we DO have proof of? Republicans sending fake electors to defy the will of their state's voters. A sitting President calling an election official asking him to "find" votes. An administration trying to pressure a VP to act unconstitutionally to overturn election results.

Those things are actually proven.
 
Phantasmal said:
I know, basically call him a deranged madmen, but it’s okay, I’d vote for him, again, WTF? So he can do worse next time?
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I would not vote for Trump. I would also not vote for Biden. We have had two of the worst Presidents in a row, we can do better than this.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Cypress,



Trump appeals to that kind of stubborn mindset similar to his own. Begin with a desired assumption, however incorrect, then find what supports it. Reject all that challenges it.

If there is insecurity in one's own mind, a feeling that one does not 'measure up,' then what is done is not to build self-confidence, but to attack others, and seek out like-minds with which to share resentment of others who are more 'together.'

It is the essence of the anti-social mindset.

Government-haters ostensibly make no sense. It is illogical to hate the self-government that we the people created and have the power to change if needed. Because this position is naturally embarrassing, it becomes imperative to a) find like-minds with which to commiserate, and b) attack those who disagree as a way to distract from lack of a sense of self-worth. The government is then treated as a sort of enemy, when really it's purpose is to enhance and protect the lives of Americans.

Americans looking for someone or something to hate all have one thing in common. They live under our government, something so big and vast it is impossible to understand it all. It becomes an easy whipping-boy for anti-social haters.

We must have a lot of anti-social people in this country. Hating the government is ever so popular. Trump picked up on that in a big way. Reagan set the stage and did the nation a vast disservice by making it OK to claim government is the problem. No! Government is not the problem. We created our own government. We have the ability to change and improve our government. It's not like we are at the mercy of a crazed monarch. We run our own country. Any criticism of how this country is being run is a criticism of we, the people. If there is a problem with government, it is our fault!

Despite the absurdity of hating the very thing we created, it has become very popular. And Trump has seized upon this illogical trend and used it to acquire power, becoming the voice of resentment.

Trump is really nothing more than the voice of stupid immature resentment.
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It all comes down to slavery after the Civil War. Republicans need a lower class of people they can identify and bully. It comes from the insecurity you mentioned. But I think their mental issues can be boiled down into one, simple phrase.

They're dicks.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello BartenderElite,



Oh, there you go. Saying the very thing they are trying so desperately to avoid hearing/saying/considering.
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They're going to throw bullshit at the truth. They learned it from twump. Good job beating back the bullshit.

If they've got proof any J6 evidence is "fake", show us, we'd love to see it.

You have to understand, Celticgirl is still smarting from the breast implant surgery.
 
Coolred44 said:
It wasn't. It was said, under oath, that only a small portion of the video was used to make the claim about it being a suitcase but the entire video showed that it was exactly what it was expected to be. An official lockbox being brought out to resume counting. Also, those who were there were investigated and questioned. Zero evidence of tampering or suitcases etc..
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NICE job making them eat their own baloney. I mentioned Celticgirl's recent gender adjustment surgery.. but did I also tell you that Celticgirl is very popular at the cross-burnings, because she can cut eye holes in sheets faster than anyone.
 
Damocles said:
The suitcase existed, folks saw it on video, the question, and where the theory goes a bit off, is whether the ballots were "fake ballots". Now the actions sending away the poll watchers then pulling out ballots to count unobserved is considerably sketchy (again seen on the video, not in question here)... but it doesn't make the ballots into "fake ballots", it just means that some poll workers lied to some poll watchers.
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No. There was NO suitcase. Did you watch the show yesterday morning? You can't make shit up anymore.
 
Damocles said:
Correct. This is why there are folks who believe the election was "stolen" still.

These type of things, while not exactly legal, are not (specifically) "voter fraud", so folks will constantly split hairs and pretend that means that there was nothing at all sketchy about any of the elections (51 elections were held that day). Worse for those who think these shenanigans may have been enough to fix their election in the favor of one side or another, once ballots are counted it is impossible to associate them to signatures, envelopes, etc. so any evidence that may have existed before they were counted no longer exists once they are separated from the envelopes and then run through machines. At that point there is nothing at all you can do.
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There WAS no fraud. No reasonable person after yesteday's J6 show, believes there was any "stolen election"

Give it up.
 
Damocles said:
You are clearly suffering from a lack of reading comprehension. I have not claimed that the election was "stolen", in fact I noted it was not. I simply stated that this is why some folks believe it was because of things like the "suitcase" video that you pretend is not problematic.
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You are clearly suffering from a lack of connection to reality.

There was no fraud. No stolen election. It was all a lie. Not only that, twump knew it and raised money of it.

It was all a lie.
 
Damocles said:
Yes, the results stood. For the reasons I have given.

However, you and I both know that the video showed something problematic and actions like that simply do not instill confidence in the local election process.

As a poll worker (yes me, poll judge) I know you do not send away watchers then count ballots without that verification present. What they did there was wrong and should not have happened.
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The video showed a person going about their normal business. Then Fox News voice overed the video as if the worker was doing something nefarious. You know Fox News lies to you? You don't?

Sorry.
 
Damocles said:
I would not vote for Trump. I would also not vote for Biden. We have had two of the worst Presidents in a row, we can do better than this.
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We’ll, I agree about Trump, but exactly what would a Republican do different from Biden, are you another that complains while understanding no one offers any solutions?

Are you for interfering and forcing oil companies to produce?

What your plan to force China to open?

What would your candidate do about Ukraine?

Everyone complains, but what exactly would others do better? I’d really like to know, because if someone has solutions, other than Biden bad, I’d like to hear them.
 
Damocles said:
You are ignoring issues because you do not want them to be resolved. When elections are run without observation and checks they seem to go your way... I get that you don't want to have fair election processes that ensure confidence in elections as observers were there at every step of the way to ensure such, but when you get what you want you wind up with folks that say things that you do not like about the election. I prefer to nip that kind of thing in the bud and act correctly when I am a poll judge.
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There were no irregularities. Barr said the election was perfect. Wray said it was the most secure in history.

There were no irregularities, no worker abuse, other than by Republicans stealing and vandalizing voting machines.

The 2020 presidential was perfect. There was no stolen election. Joseph Robinette Biden is our 46th president.
 
BartenderElite said:
Republicans are like Boston fans. They think their teams are too good to lose, so if they do lose, it had to be rigged.
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Or they know they lost and they don't care. If the can't have America, no one can. Republicans are like an abusive, sociopathic boyfriend.
 
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