No, Rick Santorum isn't trying to ban The Pill

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Yes, liberal la-la-land rants unmasked by actual journalism.


Liberal journalists want you to be scared of Rick Santorum, but that involves misinterpreting his arguments and ignoring his written statements.

“Rick Santorum is coming for your birth control,” proclaims the headline by liberal writer Irin Carmon. She warns darkly of a “contraception ban.” Libertarian lawyer Dan Mataconis makes this claim, too in a blog post titled “Rick Santorum Favors Making Birth Control Illegal.”

Both of these claims are false, though. Here’s the truth:

In his book, It Takes a Family, Santorum repeatedly wrote, directly and fairly unambiguously that he opposes laws that ban contraception. Speaking of the Connecticut contraception ban struck down by the Supreme Court in Griswold v. Connecticut, Santorum wrote “I would not have supported it or its intent.”

Of a similar Massachusetts law, Santorum writes in the book “I disagree with the Massachusetts law and its intent.”

None of the bloggers claiming Santorum wants to ban contraception find anywhere where he says that. Instead they point to three things he does believe:

1) The Supreme ruled incorrectly in Griswold and Eisenstadt and there is no fundamental right to contraception or broadly understood “privacy” in the Constitution.

2) The federal government should not be subsidizing contraception.

3) Contraception is immoral and destructive in how it corrupts the nature of the sexual act and harms marriage.

Item 1 is in line with a fairly common conservative view that the Court has overreached in its application of the 14th Amendment, and a view not uncommon among legal scholars that Griswold and Eisenstadt were sloppy.

Item 2 is in line with conservative and libertarian views that government shouldn’t subsidize things.

Item 3 is certainly a minority viewpoint – one professed by the Catholic Church but adhered to, in all likelihood, by a small minority even of Catholics. But it is a moral judgment, rooted in a traditional and long-held understanding of human nature that sex and marriage are inextricably linked to each other and to family -- meaning children. It is not a policy prescription. The only policy prescriptions above from Santorum add up to contraception should be neither banned nor subsidized.

Read more: http://newsok.com/no-rick-santorum-isnt-trying-ban-the-pill/article/feed/332469#ixzz1ieXM3Hmr
 
Yes, liberal la-la-land rants unmasked by actual journalism.


Liberal journalists want you to be scared of Rick Santorum, but that involves misinterpreting his arguments and ignoring his written statements.

“Rick Santorum is coming for your birth control,” proclaims the headline by liberal writer Irin Carmon. She warns darkly of a “contraception ban.” Libertarian lawyer Dan Mataconis makes this claim, too in a blog post titled “Rick Santorum Favors Making Birth Control Illegal.”

Both of these claims are false, though. Here’s the truth:

In his book, It Takes a Family, Santorum repeatedly wrote, directly and fairly unambiguously that he opposes laws that ban contraception. Speaking of the Connecticut contraception ban struck down by the Supreme Court in Griswold v. Connecticut, Santorum wrote “I would not have supported it or its intent.”

Of a similar Massachusetts law, Santorum writes in the book “I disagree with the Massachusetts law and its intent.”


None of the bloggers claiming Santorum wants to ban contraception find anywhere where he says that. Instead they point to three things he does believe:

1) The Supreme ruled incorrectly in Griswold and Eisenstadt and there is no fundamental right to contraception or broadly understood “privacy” in the Constitution.

2) The federal government should not be subsidizing contraception.

3) Contraception is immoral and destructive in how it corrupts the nature of the sexual act and harms marriage.

Item 1 is in line with a fairly common conservative view that the Court has overreached in its application of the 14th Amendment, and a view not uncommon among legal scholars that Griswold and Eisenstadt were sloppy.

Item 2 is in line with conservative and libertarian views that government shouldn’t subsidize things.

Item 3 is certainly a minority viewpoint – one professed by the Catholic Church but adhered to, in all likelihood, by a small minority even of Catholics. But it is a moral judgment, rooted in a traditional and long-held understanding of human nature that sex and marriage are inextricably linked to each other and to family -- meaning children. It is not a policy prescription. The only policy prescriptions above from Santorum add up to contraception should be neither banned nor subsidized.

Read more: http://newsok.com/no-rick-santorum-isnt-trying-ban-the-pill/article/feed/332469#ixzz1ieXM3Hmr

Typical Rightie weasel words...he wouldn't SUPPORT the law, but if a state wanted to pass such a law he wouldn't stand in the way.
 
You know, it's true what they say - there really is a spin for everything...

None of the bloggers claiming Santorum wants to ban contraception find anywhere where he says that. Instead they point to three things he does believe:

1) The Supreme ruled incorrectly in Griswold and Eisenstadt and there is no fundamental right to contraception or broadly understood “privacy” in the Constitution.

2) The federal government should not be subsidizing contraception.

3) Contraception is immoral and destructive in how it corrupts the nature of the sexual act and harms marriage.

Item 1 is in line with a fairly common conservative view that the Court has overreached in its application of the 14th Amendment, and a view not uncommon among legal scholars that Griswold and Eisenstadt were sloppy.

Item 2 is in line with conservative and libertarian views that government shouldn’t subsidize things.

Item 3 is certainly a minority viewpoint – one professed by the Catholic Church but adhered to, in all likelihood, by a small minority even of Catholics. But it is a moral judgment, rooted in a traditional and long-held understanding of human nature that sex and marriage are inextricably linked to each other and to family -- meaning children. It is not a policy prescription. The only policy prescriptions above from Santorum add up to contraception should be neither banned nor subsidized.

Read more: http://newsok.com/no-rick-santorum-i...#ixzz1ieXM3Hmr
 
Does it matter what (P)Rick Scrotorum would or wouldn't do as president, since he'll never get elected?

He's just the latest not-Mitt flavor of the month.

Let's focus on Mittzie...
 
None of the bloggers claiming Santorum wants to ban contraception find anywhere where he says that. Instead they point to three things he does believe:

1) The Supreme ruled incorrectly in Griswold and Eisenstadt and there is no fundamental right to contraception or broadly understood “privacy” in the Constitution.

2) The federal government should not be subsidizing contraception.

3) Contraception is immoral and destructive in how it corrupts the nature of the sexual act and harms marriage.

Item 1 is in line with a fairly common conservative view that the Court has overreached in its application of the 14th Amendment, and a view not uncommon among legal scholars that Griswold and Eisenstadt were sloppy.

Item 2 is in line with conservative and libertarian views that government shouldn’t subsidize things.

Item 3 is certainly a minority viewpoint – one professed by the Catholic Church but adhered to, in all likelihood, by a small minority even of Catholics. But it is a moral judgment, rooted in a traditional and long-held understanding of human nature that sex and marriage are inextricably linked to each other and to family -- meaning children. It is not a policy prescription. The only policy prescriptions above from Santorum add up to contraception should be neither banned nor subsidized.

Read more: http://newsok.com/no-rick-santorum-i...#ixzz1ieXM3Hmr


Shorter Ice Dancer: Santorum doesn't believe one thing that is crazy, he believes three things that are crazy.
 
Shorter Ice Dancer: Santorum doesn't believe one thing that is crazy, he believes three things that are crazy.

So it seems that he would rather unwanted children were born than provide subsidised contraception, that is just so seriously fucked up I can't believe that anyone can take that seriously.
 
So it seems that he would rather unwanted children were born than provide subsidised contraception, that is just so seriously fucked up I can't believe that anyone can take that seriously.


He believes that forced childbirth is the appropriate punishment for women who wish to engage in premarital sex. Because he's evil. And the right-wing freakshow loves him for it.
 
He believes that forced childbirth is the appropriate punishment for women who wish to engage in premarital sex. Because he's evil. And the right-wing freakshow loves him for it.

I always find it odd how many of these right wing nutjobs have views very similar to fundamentalist Muslims yet cannot see the paradox.
 
obama doesn't support gay marriage, but wouldn't stand in the way of states allowing it....


There is a difference between expanding constitutional rights and restricting them. Obama wouldn't prevent states from expanding constitutional rights to gay people, while Santorum wouldn't prevent states from restricting the constitutional rights of women.
 
This discussion is moot.

(P)Rick Scrotorum will never be president.
 
obama doesn't support gay marriage, but wouldn't stand in the way of states allowing it....

BEHOLD!!

Despite just days ago telling me how pathetic I was for posting the same type of rebuttal...now apparently ol Two-Faced Yurtard thinks it's acceptable for him to use the "well they did it too" defense.
 
That may be true, but it's sure going to be fun to go over in detail all the crazy bullshit the guy believes in, before the Republican Primary this year!

True.

1. Opposing birth control

Quote: "One of the things I will talk about, that no president has talked about before, is I think the dangers of contraception in this country.... Many of the Christian faith have said, well, that's okay, contraception is okay. It's not okay. It's a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be." (Speaking with CaffeinatedThoughts.com, Oct. 18, 2011)


Reaction: This is "pretty basic: Rick Santorum is coming for your contraception," says Irin Carmon at Salon. "Any and all of it." Threatening to "send the condom police into America's bedrooms" is pretty bad politics: More than 99 percent of sexually active women have used some form of birth control, and "helping people get access to birth control is actually a popular issue," supported by 82 percent of Americans. But a national contraception ban is "clearly the world Santorum wants."


2. Keeping moms at home

Quote: "In far too many families with young children, both parents are working, when, if they really took an honest look at the budget, they might find they don't both need to. ... What happened in America so that mothers and fathers who leave their children in the care of someone else — or worse yet, home alone after school between three and six in the afternoon — find themselves more affirmed by society? Here, we can thank the influence of radical feminism." (Santorum's 2005 book, It Takes a Family: Conservatism and the Common Good)


Reaction: Santorum is actually right, says Bonnie Alba at Renew America. Degrading "the stay-at-home wife and mother while idolizing women who chose careers" is "certainly part and parcel of the feminist ideology which has twisted our society into a pretzel of me-ism."


3. Re-spinning the Crusades

Quote: "The idea that the Crusades and the fight of Christendom against Islam is somehow an aggression on our part is absolutely anti-historical. And that is what the perception is by the American Left who hates Christendom. ... What I'm talking about is onward American soldiers. What we're talking about are core American values." (South Carolina campaign stop, Feb. 22, 2011)


Reaction: "If you were worried there wouldn't be a 2012 candidate touting the pro-Crusades platform, then today is your lucky day!" says Jillian Rayfield at Talking Points Memo. The religiously sanctioned European military campaigns were aimed at recapturing Jerusalem, and "along the way the Roman Catholic forces massacred thousands of Jews, among others." I know the Crusades predated the U.S. by a few centuries, but how exactly does this military campaign reflect "core American values"?


4. Rejecting the very idea of "Palestinians"

Quote: "All the people who live in the West Bank are Israelis, they're not Palestinians. There is no 'Palestinian.' This is Israeli land." (Campaign stop in Iowa, Nov. 18, 2011)


Reaction: "The striking thing about his comments is that they represent an even more conservative position than that taken by the Israeli government," says Glenn Kessler at The Washington Post. Israel's anti-Palestinian position itself isn't "accepted by much of the world, but it seems that the very least a potential U.S. president could do is accept the definitions used by the Israeli government."


5. Reminding America that some view Mormonism as "a dangerous cult"

Quote: "Would the potential attraction to Mormonism by simply having a Mormon in the White House threaten traditional Christianity by leading more Americans to a church that some Christians believe misleadingly calls itself Christian, is an active missionary church, and a dangerous cult?" (Santorum's Philadelphia Inquirer column, Dec. 20, 2007)


Reaction: Santorum was responding to Mitt Romney's famous speech reassuring evangelical Christians that he shares their values, and to be fair, "Santorum's ultimate verdict on Romney was more or less positive," says Dan Froomkin at The Huffington Post. But he draws plenty of "distinctions between Mormonism and Christianity that others have avoided lest they seem overly inflammatory."


6. Dissing welfare programs that "make black people's lives better"

Quote: "I don't want to make black people's lives better by giving them somebody else's money; I want to give them the opportunity to go out and earn the money." (Campaign stop in Iowa, Jan. 2, 2012)


Reaction: "This is the sort of subtle racism" that should, but won't, harm Santorum among Republicans, says Steve Benen at Washington Monthly. Why did he single out black people when talking about cutting government aid?

7. Bringing race into Obama's abortion views

Quote: "The question is — and this is what Barack Obama didn't want to answer — is that human life a person under the Constitution? And Barack Obama says no. Well if that person — human life is not a person, then — I find it almost remarkable for a black man to say, 'We're going to decide who are people and who are not people.'" (CNS News interview, Jan. 19, 2011)


Reaction: Equating fetuses to slaves got Santorum some pretty bad press, says David Weigel at Slate. But critics don't "appreciate how mainstream Santorum's point is among pro-life activists" who commonly "consider their work a continuation of other movements that protected human life and elevated the status of people whom the law doesn't consider 'human.' In the 19th century, it was African-Americans; in the 21st century, it's children in the womb."


8. Equating gay marriage to loving your mother-in-law

Quote: "Is anyone saying same-sex couples can't love each other? I love my children. I love my friends, my brother. Heck, I even love my mother-in-law. Should we call these relationships marriage, too?" (Santorum's Philadelphia Inquirer column, May 22, 2008)

Reaction:
Did noted "homophobe" Santorum just admit to a "weird sexual relationship with his mother-in-law" and brother? says Michael J.W. Stickings at The Reaction. He may be atop the Republican heap, "but make no mistake about it, Santorum's still a bigot and a moron."

9. Comparing homosexuality to "man-on-dog" sex

Quote: "If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual [gay] sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything. Does that undermine the fabric of our society? I would argue yes, it does. ... That's not to pick on homosexuality. It's not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be. It is one thing." (AP interview, April 7, 2003)

Reaction: "Rick Santorum has expended a great deal of thought and energy to finding new words to disparage gay marriage," says Daryl Lang at Breaking Copy. And even if you agree with Santorum, "would you really want a president who is this obsessed" with gay sex?




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