No Reward for Being Right on Iraq

maineman said:
Bravo.... tell me again what exactly was it that all the Islamist terrorists tell us in no uncertain terms?

If you go back and reread post #61, you will see that you are saying that all the islamist terrorists are telling us that Islam is our enemy... or, put another way, all the islamist terrorists are attempting to speak on behalf of all of Islam.

NOW do you understand the Westboro reference, or are you just way more obtuse than I figured you for?
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There is no comparison, other than both are extremist examples of religious teaching. Is that the point you are attempting to make? If so, you win! Westboro represents the extreme element of Christianity like radicalized Islamists represent the extreme element of Muslim religion. Point made! Congratulations!

Now.... When was the last suicide bombing (or any type bombing) conducted by Westboro? When was the last time a Westboro follower sawed off someone's head, with or without praising God? When was the last time Westboro mutilated or stoned someone for not following the tenets of Christianity as they preached it?

If you are having trouble answering these questions, I would suggest it is because there really isn't a valid comparison between Christian extremists and Muslim extremists. Yes, they are both at the extreme end of their respective religious spectrums, but that is really the ONLY thing they have in common. The average peaceful moderate Muslim, is probably just as 'extreme' in their religious views, as the typical Westboro follower, who are the 'radicals' in Christianity. In other words, you are trying to compare apples with oranges.
 
Dixie said:
There is no comparison, other than both are extremist examples of religious teaching. Is that the point you are attempting to make? If so, you win! Westboro represents the extreme element of Christianity like radicalized Islamists represent the extreme element of Muslim religion. Point made! Congratulations!

Now.... When was the last suicide bombing (or any type bombing) conducted by Westboro? When was the last time a Westboro follower sawed off someone's head, with or without praising God? When was the last time Westboro mutilated or stoned someone for not following the tenets of Christianity as they preached it?

If you are having trouble answering these questions, I would suggest it is because there really isn't a valid comparison between Christian extremists and Muslim extremists. Yes, they are both at the extreme end of their respective religious spectrums, but that is really the ONLY thing they have in common. The average peaceful moderate Muslim, is probably just as 'extreme' in their religious views, as the typical Westboro follower, who are the 'radicals' in Christianity. In other words, you are trying to compare apples with oranges.
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Yeah - you never see violence out of the KKK, skinheads or any other Christians.

Just shut up.
 
Dixie said:
There is no comparison, other than both are extremist examples of religious teaching. Is that the point you are attempting to make? If so, you win! Westboro represents the extreme element of Christianity like radicalized Islamists represent the extreme element of Muslim religion. Point made! Congratulations!

Now.... When was the last suicide bombing (or any type bombing) conducted by Westboro? When was the last time a Westboro follower sawed off someone's head, with or without praising God? When was the last time Westboro mutilated or stoned someone for not following the tenets of Christianity as they preached it?

If you are having trouble answering these questions, I would suggest it is because there really isn't a valid comparison between Christian extremists and Muslim extremists. Yes, they are both at the extreme end of their respective religious spectrums, but that is really the ONLY thing they have in common. The average peaceful moderate Muslim, is probably just as 'extreme' in their religious views, as the typical Westboro follower, who are the 'radicals' in Christianity. In other words, you are trying to compare apples with oranges.
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I can tell you know absolutely no Muslims, again, this post is just your very bombastic opinion. You have no idea of what you speak, still.
 
NOVA said:
The last one says the same as the others ,...Dzhokhar Tsarnaev has told investigators that they acted out of jihadist sentiment

Do I have to explain what 'jihadist sentiment' means also ?
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So... you believe that Jihadists speak for all of Islam and Westboro speaks for all of Christendom. Is that correct, or not?
 
maineman said:
Islamic extremists are certainly our enemies... arabs are not. I have lived with arabs in an arab country. The overwhelming majority of them were delightful folks.
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What religion are the majority of Arabs ? I rest my case. Nice playing with you....:)
 
Dixie said:
There is no comparison, other than both are extremist examples of religious teaching. Is that the point you are attempting to make? If so, you win! Westboro represents the extreme element of Christianity like radicalized Islamists represent the extreme element of Muslim religion. Point made! Congratulations!

Now.... When was the last suicide bombing (or any type bombing) conducted by Westboro? When was the last time a Westboro follower sawed off someone's head, with or without praising God? When was the last time Westboro mutilated or stoned someone for not following the tenets of Christianity as they preached it?

If you are having trouble answering these questions, I would suggest it is because there really isn't a valid comparison between Christian extremists and Muslim extremists. Yes, they are both at the extreme end of their respective religious spectrums, but that is really the ONLY thing they have in common. The average peaceful moderate Muslim, is probably just as 'extreme' in their religious views, as the typical Westboro follower, who are the 'radicals' in Christianity. In other words, you are trying to compare apples with oranges.
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Jihad is a core part of Islam. Vast majority of the Muslims support and fully agree with Jihad! A verified and well known fact.
These lib/dem/leftists here are so ignorant of their favorite religion and what it truly is. Of course speaking from a point of massive ignorance is old habit with them..
 
OnearmSword said:
KKK AND SKINHEADS ARE NOT CHRISTIANS.
Stop trying to line up apples and call them oranges ...It makes you look the fool...
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WADR... you're going to have to step up your game. There are numerous Christian Identity hate groups in the country. They consider themselves Christian even if you don't.

Christian Identity is a label applied to a wide variety of loosely affiliated believers and churches with a white supremacist theology.[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][2][/SUP] Most promote a racist interpretation of Christianity.
 
OnearmSword said:
Jihad is a core part of Islam. Vast majority of the Muslims support and fully agree with Jihad! A verified and well known fact.
These lib/dem/leftists here are so ignorant of their favorite religion and what it truly is. Of course speaking from a point of massive ignorance is old habit with them..
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As I said... you'll have to kick it up a notch if you want anyone here to take you seriously. That means backing up your points with citations, not just flapping your gums. And if you use a lot of biased, one-sided links, prepare to be called out on it.
 
Thing1 said:
Yeah - you never see violence out of the KKK, skinheads or any other Christians.

Just shut up.
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Trying to say that skinheads and the KKK are Christians, is the same as saying Liberals are Muslims. You parade around using the religion to advance your political points, but have no intention of actually following the religion itself.
 
Rana said:
I can tell you know absolutely no Muslims, again, this post is just your very bombastic opinion. You have no idea of what you speak, still.
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Well you are wrong, I know quite a few Muslims. I also know of what I speak, dear. The way you can tell, is your complete lack of substantive rebuttal on points I have made, and the resorting to ridicule instead. If I didn't know, or was wrong, you would proudly show us all what a genius you are by pointing it out, but you can't.
 
maineman said:
So... you believe that Jihadists speak for all of Islam and Westboro speaks for all of Christendom. Is that correct, or not?
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When was the last suicide bombing (or any type bombing) conducted by Westboro? When was the last time a Westboro follower sawed off someone's head, with or without praising God? When was the last time Westboro mutilated or stoned someone for not following the tenets of Christianity as they preached it?


I made my questions bolder and bigger so you could read them, I am still waiting for answers.
 
Dixie said:
Trying to say that skinheads and the KKK are Christians, is the same as saying Liberals are Muslims. You parade around using the religion to advance your political points, but have no intention of actually following the religion itself.
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Extremists under both faiths hide behind their religion. They misrepresent & use their respective religions for their own agendas.

It's amazing that you can continue to fail to see that. You hold one set of extremists to a much different standard.
 
Dixie said:
When was the last suicide bombing (or any type bombing) conducted by Westboro? When was the last time a Westboro follower sawed off someone's head, with or without praising God? When was the last time Westboro mutilated or stoned someone for not following the tenets of Christianity as they preached it?


I made my questions bolder and bigger so you could read them, I am still waiting for answers.
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You bold print doesn't change the point. Terrorists are terrorists, they use many excuses and reasons to justify their terror.
 
Thing1 said:
You hold one set of extremists to a much different standard.
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Rana said:
Terrorists are terrorists, they use many excuses and reasons to justify their terror.
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Christian extremists like Westboro, don't commit terrorist acts. Radicalized Muslims do. That's the difference. You want to claim the KKK and skinheads are "Christians" but they aren't anymore Christian than you two are Muslims. They are exploiting the religion to advance a political agenda, the same as you.

Terrorists ARE terrorists, that's why I presented the hypothetical, long since covered up by volumes of liberal retort; What if Christian fanatics had been behind the Boston bombings? Would you all be here defending Christianity? Would we hear the same passionate defense of peaceful Christians, and emotive bleats accusing people of attacking peaceful Christians because they denounced the terrorist acts? Somehow I doubt it, since you're here trying to tie the KKK to Christians, and they didn't bomb anything.
 
Dixie said:
Christian extremists like Westboro, don't commit terrorist acts. Radicalized Muslims do. That's the difference. You want to claim the KKK and skinheads are "Christians" but they aren't anymore Christian than you two are Muslims. They are exploiting the religion to advance a political agenda, the same as you.

Terrorists ARE terrorists, that's why I presented the hypothetical, long since covered up by volumes of liberal retort; What if Christian fanatics had been behind the Boston bombings? Would you all be here defending Christianity? Would we hear the same passionate defense of peaceful Christians, and emotive bleats accusing people of attacking peaceful Christians because they denounced the terrorist acts? Somehow I doubt it, since you're here trying to tie the KKK to Christians, and they didn't bomb anything.
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Jeebus, Dixie you are chasing your own tail.
 
Dixie said:
Christian extremists like Westboro, don't commit terrorist acts. Radicalized Muslims do. That's the difference. You want to claim the KKK and skinheads are "Christians" but they aren't anymore Christian than you two are Muslims. They are exploiting the religion to advance a political agenda, the same as you.
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You're incredibly dense. That's what I'm saying about BOTH. That's exactly what Al Qaeda does.

You're ignorant.
 
Dixie said:
When was the last suicide bombing (or any type bombing) conducted by Westboro? When was the last time a Westboro follower sawed off someone's head, with or without praising God? When was the last time Westboro mutilated or stoned someone for not following the tenets of Christianity as they preached it?


I made my questions bolder and bigger so you could read them, I am still waiting for answers.
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so muslim extremists are more violent on average, than christian ones? who gives a shit? they're both extreme and neither represents the vast majority of the faithful of their respective faiths. You need to talk to bravo about that so that you guys can maintain your united, mouths-firmly-planted-around-Dubya's-rectum position.
 
Thing1 said:
You're incredibly dense. That's what I'm saying about BOTH. That's exactly what Al Qaeda does.

You're ignorant.
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Not what alqaeda does. There is a difference between "exploiting" the religion and "perverting" the religion. You and Rana are exploiting the religion, alqaeda perverts it. The KKK exploits the religion, Westboro perverts it.

No, unfortunately for you, I am not ignorant. You may like to tell yourself this, maybe it takes the sting out of my chomping of your ass in debate? With just a little more effort than it takes for you to hurl ad homs at me, you could educate yourself on this topic, it's fairly lightweight. I think you must lack self worth, like The Gimp in Pulp Fiction.
 
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