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A No Labels presidential candidate can’t win — but could determine who does

No Labels, a self-styled centrist organization, is looking into running a third-party presidential candidate next year. It’s either a case of delusion, an ego trip or something worse.

No Labels says it’s raising $70 million to get on all 50 state ballots. It has a blue-ribbon panel of supporters and advisers. What it doesn’t have is any serious chance of electing what it considers a moderate independent as president of the United States.

The organization was launched more than decade ago by a Democratic fundraiser with the aim of forging bipartisan, centrist policies. It has achieved success on Capitol Hill.

But running a presidential candidate is a much different, and far greater, challenge. Democrats charge, credibly, that any candidacy would take more votes from President Biden than from the Republican nominee.

No Labels rejects this. It released a 26,000-voter survey showing that 64 percent of voters want options other than Democrats and Republicans, and that 59 percent said they’d be open to voting for a moderate independent presidential ticket if the alternative were a rerun of Trump v. Biden.
Prominent pollsters are very skeptical of these claims.

“In a contest with Biden and Trump, there is no way a No Labels candidate could win,” Whit Ayres, a leading Republican pollster, told me. “That candidate couldn’t win any states; they’d get zero electoral votes.”

Fred Yang, a leading Democratic poll taker, is only a bit less skeptical. “With the dissatisfaction of both Republicans and Democrats, it looks like an opening,” he noted, “But it’s a real leap to say that once there is an actual candidate and a platform that would be sustainable.”

But it might, as Ayres observed, affect the outcome. In 2000 Green Party candidate Ralph Nader got less than 3 percent of the vote, but that was enough to cost Democrat Al Gore the presidency. Most experts I spoke with tend to agree with Democratic consultant Paul Begala, who charged that in a Biden-Trump rematch, a No Labels candidate “almost certainly would elect Mr. Trump.”.......

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaig...didate-cant-win-but-could-determine-who-does/

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It is time for Americans to have more choices for who will run the country.
 
A No Labels presidential candidate can’t win — but could determine who does

No Labels, a self-styled centrist organization, is looking into running a third-party presidential candidate next year. It’s either a case of delusion, an ego trip or something worse.

No Labels says it’s raising $70 million to get on all 50 state ballots. It has a blue-ribbon panel of supporters and advisers. What it doesn’t have is any serious chance of electing what it considers a moderate independent as president of the United States.

The organization was launched more than decade ago by a Democratic fundraiser with the aim of forging bipartisan, centrist policies. It has achieved success on Capitol Hill.

But running a presidential candidate is a much different, and far greater, challenge. Democrats charge, credibly, that any candidacy would take more votes from President Biden than from the Republican nominee.

No Labels rejects this. It released a 26,000-voter survey showing that 64 percent of voters want options other than Democrats and Republicans, and that 59 percent said they’d be open to voting for a moderate independent presidential ticket if the alternative were a rerun of Trump v. Biden.
Prominent pollsters are very skeptical of these claims.

“In a contest with Biden and Trump, there is no way a No Labels candidate could win,” Whit Ayres, a leading Republican pollster, told me. “That candidate couldn’t win any states; they’d get zero electoral votes.”

Fred Yang, a leading Democratic poll taker, is only a bit less skeptical. “With the dissatisfaction of both Republicans and Democrats, it looks like an opening,” he noted, “But it’s a real leap to say that once there is an actual candidate and a platform that would be sustainable.”

But it might, as Ayres observed, affect the outcome. In 2000 Green Party candidate Ralph Nader got less than 3 percent of the vote, but that was enough to cost Democrat Al Gore the presidency. Most experts I spoke with tend to agree with Democratic consultant Paul Begala, who charged that in a Biden-Trump rematch, a No Labels candidate “almost certainly would elect Mr. Trump.”.......

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaig...didate-cant-win-but-could-determine-who-does/

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It is time for Americans to have more choices for who will run the country.

I have to admit a solid and reasonable third party would do this country a lot of good. It would be a wake up call to both established parties that business as usual won't work anymore. At the same time it would give voters an alternative. To be honest the only reason I voted for trump was because nothing I see from Democrats suggests they give a shit about me or America.
 
I have to admit a solid and reasonable third party would do this country a lot of good. It would be a wake up call to both established parties that business as usual won't work anymore. At the same time it would give voters an alternative. To be honest the only reason I voted for trump was because nothing I see from Democrats suggests they give a shit about me or America.
Indeed.
 
I have to admit a solid and reasonable third party would do this country a lot of good. It would be a wake up call to both established parties that business as usual won't work anymore. At the same time it would give voters an alternative. To be honest the only reason I voted for trump was because nothing I see from Democrats suggests they give a shit about me or America.

a 3rd party would be good, however, it's never going to happen with the braindead bases of republicans and democrats.
 
a 3rd party would be good, however, it's never going to happen with the braindead bases of republicans and democrats.

I completely agree. The Dems certainly give me no reason to think they give a shit about me and the repubs are too cowardly to do whats right.
 
I have to admit a solid and reasonable third party would do this country a lot of good. It would be a wake up call to both established parties that business as usual won't work anymore. At the same time it would give voters an alternative. To be honest the only reason I voted for trump was because nothing I see from Democrats suggests they give a shit about me or America.
Not surprised, they are a group that thinks men can menstruate.
 
We have had a lot of 3rd parties . You mean a successful 3rd party. And that depends on what your objects are.

if, by successful, you mean getting elected, then my position is correct. there are too many terrified and brain dead people on both sides of the establishment parties who will not let that happen
 
Here's what I know, leftists are a species of subhuman idiots that are infecting the world with their idiocy.

I am fine. And the GOP party is dying and I am happy about that. A sane and reasonable third party would be a welcome of fresh air.
 
I have to admit a solid and reasonable third party would do this country a lot of good. It would be a wake up call to both established parties that business as usual won't work anymore. At the same time it would give voters an alternative. To be honest the only reason I voted for trump was because nothing I see from Democrats suggests they give a shit about me or America.

Tell us how a third party would differ from the main two?

What would their views on issues be?

Will they be both pro choice and pro gun?
 
Tell us how a third party would differ from the main two?

What would their views on issues be?

Will they be both pro choice and pro gun?

I don't remember suggesting they would. Could you refresh my memory?

Depends on who start them. Anarchist, libertarians, communists, the green party, the constitution party etc etc etc

Could be or neither.

You seem to have this impression I am supposed to have the answers to these questions before I suggest a third party would do us some good. Not sure if that's accurate but if it is it's kind of silly. In think ultimately any third party should get into one of the 2 current parties and effect change in those parties philosophies but that's an even bigger uphill battle.
 
I don't remember suggesting they would. Could you refresh my memory?

Depends on who start them. Anarchist, libertarians, communists, the green party, the constitution party etc etc etc

Could be or neither.

You seem to have this impression I am supposed to have the answers to these questions before I suggest a third party would do us some good. Not sure if that's accurate but if it is it's kind of silly. In think ultimately any third party should get into one of the 2 current parties and effect change in those parties philosophies but that's an even bigger uphill battle.

There is no way to have a third party in our system that is different from the main two
 
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