No excuse for Trump's persistent wiretap lie

Yaya said:
Watch. Gomer will run around the forum insulting anyone who doesn't agree with him.
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Nope. Just the fucking morons who will lie and divert to avoid the obvious. You backed a pathological liar that is an embarrassment to this country, and just like that lying orange POS, you'll double down on your horseshit rather than either admitting it or just shitting the fuck up about it and let it go.
 
Thing1 said:
LOL

You may want to re-check the bolded.

Man - you & Trump are 2 peas in a pod.
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2% economic growth is subpar. And 2% growth is Obama's economic legacy.

You can try and spin it, put a happy face on it or blame Bush, but no one outside the Bubble is buying it.
 
Darth Omar said:
2% economic growth is subpar. And 2% growth is Obama's economic legacy.

You can try and spin it, put a happy face on it or blame Bush, but no one outside the Bubble is buying it.
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It's not Obama's legacy. It's the norm, now that we import everything.
 
Darth Omar said:
2% economic growth is subpar. And 2% growth is Obama's economic legacy.

You can try and spin it, put a happy face on it or blame Bush, but no one outside the Bubble is buying it.
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You said it was the "longest economic downturn since the Great Depression."

Do you know what an economic downturn is?
 
Thing1 said:
You said it was the "longest economic downturn since the Great Depression."

Do you know what an economic downturn is?
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Nice dodge lol.

However you want to phrase it, Obama gifted Trump with a hanging curveball over the middle of the plate. And he's doing the right things to connect and score a hit on the economy.

If that happens and you think it won't matter politically, you're just goofy.
 
Darth Omar said:
Nice dodge lol.

However you want to phrase it, Obama gifted Trump with a hanging curveball over the middle of the plate. And he's doing the right things to connect and score a hit on the economy.

If that happens and you think it won't matter politically, you're just goofy.
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"Nice dodge"?

You lied, Darth. It wasn't an "economic downturn." Period. And it certainly wasn't the "longest economic downturn since the Great Depression."

Just like Trump. As has been said, we now live in a "post-truth era."
 
anatta said:
well the health care costs are so squishy i barely take them seriously.
I don't know if the Ryan plan is better then Obamacare - i honestly do not.

Single pay makes the most sense. no more held hostages to outrageous premiums by carriers
and if you want to carry a private insurance,or pay fee for service as well -you should be able to do so.
But you still gotta pay SP tax like you have to pay school tax if you use them or not.
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Nothing is "free"....even single payer. Regardless...the cost will come from the pocket of US CITIZENS. Anytime you can get the government out of the picture you are better off. No US citizen had any problem with Obama Care other than the fact of the fascist mandate that required every US citizen to purchase a product/service....and the government mandated insurance monopolies leaving the actual payer of the costs (the US CITIZENS) without a personal choice as to Physician and Insurance carrier. That mandate caused the exponential raise in premiums. Under the GOP plan with less government mandates/dictates .....the PRIVATE SECTOR competition will bring the overall costs down....it will take months if not years....just like it took Obama care months and years to bring the cost up.



The US Government is a piss poor manager of the People's private concerns.....as one size never fits everyone.
 
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Thing1 said:
"Nice dodge"?

You lied, Darth. It wasn't an "economic downturn." Period. And it certainly wasn't the "longest economic downturn since the Great Depression."

Just like Trump. As has been said, we now live in a "post-truth era."
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Even granting you your dodge lol.

Do you really think Trump turning the economy around will have no political effect?
 
Darth Omar said:
Even granting you your dodge lol.

Do you really think Trump turning the economy around will have no political effect?
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And I'll grant you your blatant lie.

I don't think it will have no political effect. But I think most who aren't completely in the koolaid for Trump (and copying his disregard for the facts) are already sick of his "post-truth" schtick. Trump is a one-termer. And yeah - that's a prediction.
 
Thing1 said:
And I'll grant you your blatant lie.

I don't think it will have no political effect. But I think most who aren't completely in the koolaid for Trump (and copying his disregard for the facts) are already sick of his "post-truth" schtick. Trump is a one-termer. And yeah - that's a prediction.
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Calling people liars gives you chill bumps, doesn't it.

I think both you and your prediction are out to lunch.
 
Darth Omar said:
Calling people liars gives you chill bumps, doesn't it.

I think both you and your prediction are out to lunch.
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I call people liars when they lie. Which you did. Unless you have no clue whatsoever what the term "economic downturn" means? Your choice on that.

Trump's approval at 37% in a new poll. That's incredibly low for a new President.
 
Thing1 said:
I call people liars when they lie. Which you did. Unless you have no clue whatsoever what the term "economic downturn" means? Your choice on that.

Trump's approval at 37% in a new poll. That's incredibly low for a new President.
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Well, the media's reaction to the results of an election is pretty historic as well lol. And their numbers are in the tank, btw.

And dang dude, you just made yourself a liar by your own reckoning. You just admitted you didn't know whether I was willfully trying to mislead [hint: willfully is a necessary ingredient] or just not aware that 'economic downturn' was an improper term. But you called me a liar anyway.

That makes you a liar by your own standards lol! And you get to wear the hypocrite label on top of it.
 
Darth Omar said:
Well, the media's reaction to the results of an election is pretty historic as well lol. And their numbers are in the tank, btw.

And dang dude, you just made yourself a liar by your own reckoning. You just admitted you didn't know whether I was willfully trying to mislead [hint: willfully is a necessary ingredient] or just not aware that 'economic downturn' was an improper term. But you called me a liar anyway.

That makes you a liar by your own standards lol! And you get to wear the hypocrite label on top of it.
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I was being sarcastic. You know what "economic downturn" means.

You sound like Spicer, though. You're really learning well.
 
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