No Concealed Carry Gun Permit Required in Arizona Now

SJJRSJJS

SJJRSJJS

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I will be visiting my Son in Arizona in a couple Months and I will be legally packing my 9mm Semi-auto concealed wherever I go. This "No Permit Needed" law is about a couple years old, but my Son just told me about it last month after I gave him a nice .380 Walther to have and use if necessary. I advised him to take the course and get a permit, just in case he had to use the Walther in self-defense and the bad guy's relatives tried to sue him, for not being properly trained to carry a concealed weapon. In my case, I'm "good" because I was in the Army and I have taken the Califa Hunter Safety Course and have been hunting most of my life, even wearing out a Remington model 1100 shooting Ducks, Geese, Quail, Doves, Turkey, and Pheasants. I am also a crack shot, if that means anything to you Libs out there.

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SJJRSJJS said:
I will be visiting my Son in Arizona in a couple Months and I will be legally packing my 9mm Semi-auto concealed wherever I go. This "No Permit Needed" law is about a couple years old, but my Son just told me about it last month after I gave him a nice .380 Walther to have and use if necessary. I advised him to take the course and get a permit, just in case he had to use the Walther in self-defense and the bad guy's relatives tried to sue him, for not being properly trained to carry a concealed weapon. In my case, I'm "good" because I was in the Army and I have taken the Califa Hunter Safety Course and have been hunting most of my life, even wearing out a Remington model 1100 shooting Ducks, Geese, Quail, Doves, Turkey, and Pheasants. I am also a crack shot, if that means anything to you Libs out there.

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You kill doves?
 
Darla said:
You kill doves?
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Everything that I have hunted, I have eaten. I had a Winchester .300 Rem Mag rifles for deer and elk, since sold, but I never went deer or elk hunting, probably because of the Bambi(the movie) effect on my conscience, but my Brothers hunt deer and I am all for hunting as long as you eat what you take. Someone has to "take care" of the chickens, pigs and cattle that people eat, at least I would eat grain fed wild game that "I harvested". As far as Doves go, they are mourning doves, which are not hunted in NY. They are everywhere here, but are difficult to bring down because when there is any wind, they curve all over the place....................( "Currently, there is no hunting season for mourning doves in New York State; however, mourning doves are one of the most popular game birds in North America, with close to one million hunters taking approximately 20 million birds annually in the U.S. They are one of the most widespread and abundant birds on the continent, and various survey data from New York show a significant increase in abundance of mourning doves over the last 40 years.

Thirty-nine of the lower 48 states have mourning dove hunting seasons, and federal regulations allow states in the eastern U.S. to select seasons up to 70 days in length, between September 1 and January 15, with a daily bag limit of 15 doves. However, New York does not currently have a mourning dove hunting season, and many hunters have wondered why. The simple reason is that State law does not classify mourning doves as either a migratory game bird or an upland game bird (ECL 11-0103); therefore, the Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) does not have the authority to establish hunting regulations for doves under the current law.")
PS, did you finally put your bike rack on without scratching the paint? If so, how did you find out how to do it?
 
SJJRSJJS said:
Everything that I have hunted, I have eaten. I had a Winchester .300 Rem Mag rifles for deer and elk, since sold, but I never went deer or elk hunting, probably because of the Bambi(the movie) effect on my conscience, but my Brothers hunt deer and I am all for hunting as long as you eat what you take. Someone has to "take care" of the chickens, pigs and cattle that people eat, at least I would eat grain fed wild game that "I harvested". As far as Doves go, they are mourning doves, which are not hunted in NY. They are everywhere here, but are difficult to bring down because when there is any wind, they curve all over the place....................( "Currently, there is no hunting season for mourning doves in New York State; however, mourning doves are one of the most popular game birds in North America, with close to one million hunters taking approximately 20 million birds annually in the U.S. They are one of the most widespread and abundant birds on the continent, and various survey data from New York show a significant increase in abundance of mourning doves over the last 40 years.

Thirty-nine of the lower 48 states have mourning dove hunting seasons, and federal regulations allow states in the eastern U.S. to select seasons up to 70 days in length, between September 1 and January 15, with a daily bag limit of 15 doves. However, New York does not currently have a mourning dove hunting season, and many hunters have wondered why. The simple reason is that State law does not classify mourning doves as either a migratory game bird or an upland game bird (ECL 11-0103); therefore, the Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) does not have the authority to establish hunting regulations for doves under the current law.")
PS, did you finally put your bike rack on without scratching the paint? If so, how did you find out how to do it?
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Dove hunting is good sport. Hones your shooting skills, as they are fast little suckers. Fairly tasty too, if you bag enough.
 
Steelplate said:
Dove hunting is good sport. Hones your shooting skills, as they are fast little suckers. Fairly tasty too, if you bag enough.
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Way back, when I was more naive than I am now(yes I actually was), I actually tried to pluck the feathers like a duck in order to slow pan fry them, slighty flowered in butter. A friend of my Brother's, told me to stick my shooting finger under the breast cavity and simply pull out the rather large breast, and that works with just meat and no feathers. Since then, I have considered myself a breast man.......lol
 
SJJRSJJS said:
Everything that I have hunted, I have eaten. I had a Winchester .300 Rem Mag rifles for deer and elk, since sold, but I never went deer or elk hunting, probably because of the Bambi(the movie) effect on my conscience, but my Brothers hunt deer and I am all for hunting as long as you eat what you take. Someone has to "take care" of the chickens, pigs and cattle that people eat, at least I would eat grain fed wild game that "I harvested". As far as Doves go, they are mourning doves, which are not hunted in NY. They are everywhere here, but are difficult to bring down because when there is any wind, they curve all over the place....................( "Currently, there is no hunting season for mourning doves in New York State; however, mourning doves are one of the most popular game birds in North America, with close to one million hunters taking approximately 20 million birds annually in the U.S. They are one of the most widespread and abundant birds on the continent, and various survey data from New York show a significant increase in abundance of mourning doves over the last 40 years.

Thirty-nine of the lower 48 states have mourning dove hunting seasons, and federal regulations allow states in the eastern U.S. to select seasons up to 70 days in length, between September 1 and January 15, with a daily bag limit of 15 doves. However, New York does not currently have a mourning dove hunting season, and many hunters have wondered why. The simple reason is that State law does not classify mourning doves as either a migratory game bird or an upland game bird (ECL 11-0103); therefore, the Department of Environmental Conservation (DEC) does not have the authority to establish hunting regulations for doves under the current law.")
PS, did you finally put your bike rack on without scratching the paint? If so, how did you find out how to do it?
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I am an avid hunter. I do not trophy hunt and do harvest game to be food that is prepared and served at the table . Doves are tasty but requires a lot of them to make a meal.
 
OnearmSword said:
I am an avid hunter. I do not trophy hunt and do harvest game to be food that is prepared and served at the table . Doves are tasty but requires a lot of them to make a meal.
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When I used to hunt, the limit was 10 mourning doves, with a few White Winged doves in that limit. I have seen the larger and rarer White Winged doves out here in the high desert, but have never shot one. In Lake Elsinore, south of the airport and the Lake, there was a Dove spot(field) where you could literally get a limit within 30 minutes, that is if you could shoot. There are homes there now. Doves would be up in the trees, then they would gravel, then eat and then water, if you were in the middle of that field, they would be flying at you from all angles, and that would go on most of the day. They are difficult to hit if there is a breeze and if they see you, hiding behind some large tumbleweeds worked for me, along with number 7/1/2 shot. Even though they recommend a Modified Choke, I have always used a Full Choke 12 gauge on everything, in that way, it is either a hit or a miss with fewer wounded birds, especially Pheasants and Honkers. Honkers were my specialty, hunted them all over, especially near Corcoran, Ca, (Utica and 10th) and the Salton Sea(Wister unit)....all true
 
Darla said:
Well I guess I can come up with no better representation of America than shooting and eating the international peace symbol.
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Darla, with all due respect...Doves are plentiful and a good source lean protein. All wild game is. It's much healthier than going to the grocery store and buying hormone fed beef, poultry or pork....and much less expensive than buying organic. Not to mention that those animals are raised for one purpose...for consumption. There's no respect or niceties in the meat industry....it's just that you don't see the processing part.

If you have conscientious objections to killing for a food source, then vegan is the way to go for you. Which is also a healthy choice.

Here in Pennsylvania for instance, suburban sprawl has reduced the habitat for many species of animals. Whitetail deer, black bear and "varmint" species. Hunting allows for the control of that population so that...

A. These animals don't become public nuisances.

And most importantly...

B. They don't die the horrible death of Starvation in the lean winter months.

Believe me...most state's game commission knows exactly what they are doing. They have their own specialists who are highly trained scientists who balance the rights of hunters with the local and regional ecology. That's why there are bag limits and seasons for different species.
 
Darla said:
Well I guess I can come up with no better representation of America than shooting and eating the international peace symbol.
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Yikes, we have two mourning dove nests on the porch and the birds return every year. I thought fun was watching the babies grow up.
 
SJJRSJJS said:
When I used to hunt, the limit was 10 mourning doves, with a few White Winged doves in that limit. I have seen the larger and rarer White Winged doves out here in the high desert, but have never shot one. In Lake Elsinore, south of the airport and the Lake, there was a Dove spot(field) where you could literally get a limit within 30 minutes, that is if you could shoot. There are homes there now. Doves would be up in the trees, then they would gravel, then eat and then water, if you were in the middle of that field, they would be flying at you from all angles, and that would go on most of the day. They are difficult to hit if there is a breeze and if they see you, hiding behind some large tumbleweeds worked for me, along with number 7/1/2 shot. Even though they recommend a Modified Choke, I have always used a Full Choke 12 gauge on everything, in that way, it is either a hit or a miss with fewer wounded birds, especially Pheasants and Honkers. Honkers were my specialty, hunted them all over, especially near Corcoran, Ca, (Utica and 10th) and the Salton Sea(Wister unit)....all true
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Around here there are doves by thousands all over the countryside. Absolutely no problem getting your limit if you are a good shot . I too shoot 12 ga. full choke because I like to take the long range shots myself. Additionally long range shots do not blow 'em up to bad for eating.
 
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