Nikki Haley says Social Security is ‘the heart of what’s causing government to grow

[signalmankenneth]

Nikki is finish if she is running on this issue?!! Better raise taxes on the rich and businesses?!! Social Security and Medicare are not entitlements, people paid into these programs all their working life?!!

Nikki Haley is in hot water.

The former South Carolina governor and Republican presidential candidate is getting cooked for comments she made some time ago to Neil Cavuto on Fox Business, where she talked tough on Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid spending.

“What they need to be doing is looking at entitlements,” she told Cavuto. “Look at Social Security, look at Medicaid, look at Medicare, look at these things and let’s actually go to the heart of what’s causing government to grow.”

Cue the inevitable reactions.

I’ve reached out to Gov. Haley’s office for comment.

Haley just announced she is running for president. As she comes from the Republican party’s more centrist wing I wonder how far she is going to get. Apparently I’m not alone. Betting at Predictit, a political betting market, gives her an 11% chance of winning the nomination. I’d take the under.

The question of who wants to do what to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid is urgent. Social Security’s trust fund is predicted to run out of money within a decade. Medicare even sooner.

Some Republicans in Congress are talking about using negotiations over the federal debt to cut the growth in federal spending, potentially including entitlements. Some—a few, but some—have talked about cuts to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/n...ing-government-to-grow-addce22d?siteid=yhoof2

 

[cawacko]

Entitlements are the largest driver behind the growth in government. Should she lie and say that isn't the case? Have we reached a point where we can't even state basic facts anymore?

 

[AProudLefty]

Entitlements are the largest driver behind the growth in government. Should she lie and say that isn't the case? Have we reached a point where we can't even state basic facts anymore?

Entitlements? Everyone pays into it.

 

[Hawkeye10]

She will flip flop on this just as she usually flip flops.

There is no there there.

 

[cawacko]

Entitlements? Everyone pays into it.

The U.S. Government calls them entitlement programs because by law if you pay into the program you are entitled to receive benefits.

So it's a term used by our government. For those who don't like I'm not sure who within the gov't to take it up with but it's their term.

 

[AProudLefty]

The U.S. Government calls them entitlement programs because by law if you pay into the program you are entitled to receive benefits.

So it's a term used by our government. For those who don't like I'm not sure who within the gov't to take it up with but it's their term.

It's the Republican term.

 

[Hawkeye10]

The U.S. Government calls them entitlement programs because by law if you pay into the program you are entitled to receive benefits.

So it's a term used by our government. For those who don't like I'm not sure who within the gov't to take it up with but it's their term.

There is no requirement for a pay in to form an entitlement.

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

Entitlements? Everyone pays into it.

That's why I feel entitled to it.

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

There is no requirement for a pay in to form an entitlement.

Do you just talk out your ass to hear yourself talk?

 

[Hawkeye10]

Do you just talk out your ass to hear yourself talk?

No.

 

[Cypress]

I was told 40 years ago that social security would go bankrupt and wouldn't be there for me when I retired.

I eventually realized conservatives had been lying their flabby asses off.

 

[Melchizedek = Michael]

Entitlements are the largest driver behind the growth in government. Should she lie and say that isn't the case? Have we reached a point where we can't even state basic facts anymore?

Social Security and Medicare are NOT " entitlements" we paid for them our whole work life

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

Even Donald Trump is smarter than Nikki Hokey!

Donald Trump issued a warning to Republican lawmakers just last Friday: Don’t lay a finger on entitlement programs as part of the debt ceiling showdown with the White House.

“Under no circumstances should Republicans vote to cut a single penny from Medicare or Social Security,” Trump said in a video message.

“Cut waste, fraud and abuse everywhere that we can find it and there is plenty there’s plenty of it,” Trump says. “But do not cut the benefits our seniors worked for and paid for their entire lives. Save Social Security, don’t destroy it.”

Trump’s position echoes his long-held, albeit unorthodox, conviction that the Republican Party should stay away from attaching themselves to entitlement reform. Prior to being elected president, Trump was highly critical of then-Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) for pushing austerity budgets during the Obama years. As a candidate for president, he insisted he would preserve both Medicare and Social Security.

Over the last few months Trump himself has insisted that congressional Republicans use the debt ceiling as a leverage point to achieve policy objectives, despite having done no such thing during any of the times the debt ceiling was lifted when he was president. But his statement makes clear he views certain pursuits as off limits. And it puts him at least partially on the same page as Biden, who has not only insisted he won’t cut Social Security or Medicare but excoriated Republicans for suggesting they would.

 

[cawacko]

Social Security and Medicare are NOT " entitlements" we paid for them our whole work life

Entitlement spending is the government term. Somehow it has people all worked up but that's what they call it.

 

[AProudLefty]

Entitlement spending is the government term. Somehow it has people all worked up but that's what they call it.

So? What does it have to do with her statement?

 

[Hawkeye10]

Social Security and Medicare are NOT " entitlements" we paid for them our whole work life

That is not how it works, each generation pays for the care of the elders, and almost everyone has gotten more out then they pay in (with inflation accounted for) unless they die early.

 

[Melchizedek = Michael]

That is not how it works, each generation pays for the care of the elders, and almost everyone has gotten more out then they pay in (with inflation accounted for) unless they die early.

You missed the point

 

[Hawkeye10]

One of the reasons for the open borders is the hope than new arrivals will be mostly working and helping to pay the old age benefits of Americas retired....but because the new arrivals tend to be not the best we could get by far it likely wont work out that way.

 

[Guno צְבִי]

One of the reasons for the open borders is the hope than new arrivals will be mostly working and helping to pay the old age benefits of Americas retired....but because the new arrivals tend to be not the best we could get by far it likely wont work out that way.

Same arguments made in the early 1900 as to new arrivals

 

[Lionfish]

Nikki is finish if she is running on this issue?!! Better raise taxes on the rich and businesses?!! Social Security and Medicare are not entitlements, people paid into these programs all their working life?!!

Nikki Haley is in hot water.

The former South Carolina governor and Republican presidential candidate is getting cooked for comments she made some time ago to Neil Cavuto on Fox Business, where she talked tough on Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid spending.

“What they need to be doing is looking at entitlements,” she told Cavuto. “Look at Social Security, look at Medicaid, look at Medicare, look at these things and let’s actually go to the heart of what’s causing government to grow.”

Cue the inevitable reactions.

I’ve reached out to Gov. Haley’s office for comment.

Haley just announced she is running for president. As she comes from the Republican party’s more centrist wing I wonder how far she is going to get. Apparently I’m not alone. Betting at Predictit, a political betting market, gives her an 11% chance of winning the nomination. I’d take the under.

The question of who wants to do what to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid is urgent. Social Security’s trust fund is predicted to run out of money within a decade. Medicare even sooner.

Some Republicans in Congress are talking about using negotiations over the federal debt to cut the growth in federal spending, potentially including entitlements. Some—a few, but some—have talked about cuts to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/n...ing-government-to-grow-addce22d?siteid=yhoof2

She is correct. Next?