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I shake my head in dismay when I see footballers:
- helmet to helmet tackles
- helmet to helmet head-butts (celebration)
- slap the helmet of a teammate to congratulate

These sources of head trauma are gratuitous, and entirely unnecessary.
They're doing it to themselves.
 
sear said:
#100

I shake my head in dismay when I see footballers:
- helmet to helmet tackles
- helmet to helmet head-butts (celebration)
- slap the helmet of a teammate to congratulate

These sources of head trauma are gratuitous, and entirely unnecessary.
They're doing it to themselves.
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Hey #0, there's a quote previous message button on this board. It's an amazing feature. It made the board owners rich. You should try using it because I hear they give (stock) options.
 
Let me be very specific about what I am saying. There is ZERO scientific evidence relating football to CTE. I am taking REAL science. Not conjecture and speculation. All they have are case studies on post mortems. Case studies are the weakest of scientific evidence. We should not be making decisions in case studies. You all are being scammed like you were about salt on your food, vaccines and autism and second hand smoke.
 
A case study can be dismissed as an anecdote. You can read Brocca's Brain if you're interested in it.

But modern statistical analysis of populations is actually a fairly sophisticated discipline, and can provide impressively accurate results.
I haven't studied intensely.

BUT !!

There is fast-mounting evidence that exposure to frequent head trauma can lead to premature degradation of mental faculties later in life.

What's the fuss?
How many more athletes would you wish be be harmed before there's incontrovertible proof that the NFL rules as applied in 2016 are not sufficient?

- Strengthen the penalty for helmet-to-helmet collisions.
- Ban helmet-slapping.
- Review safety equipment design. It may be time for a league-wide 3rd millennium safety equipment update, perhaps particularly including the helmet.

We don't need incontrovertible proof to take a few modest steps like that.
 
Teflon Don said:
Let me be very specific about what I am saying. There is ZERO scientific evidence relating football to CTE. I am taking REAL science. Not conjecture and speculation. All they have are case studies on post mortems. Case studies are the weakest of scientific evidence. We should not be making decisions in case studies. You all are being scammed like you were about salt on your food, vaccines and autism and second hand smoke.
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To whose benefit, in the case of CTE?
 
sear said:
A case study can be dismissed as an anecdote. You can read Brocca's Brain if you're interested in it.

But modern statistical analysis of populations is actually a fairly sophisticated discipline, and can provide impressively accurate results.
I haven't studied intensely.

BUT !!

There is fast-mounting evidence that exposure to frequent head trauma can lead to premature degradation of mental faculties later in life.

What's the fuss?
How many more athletes would you wish be be harmed before there's incontrovertible proof that the NFL rules as applied in 2016 are not sufficient?

- Strengthen the penalty for helmet-to-helmet collisions.
- Ban helmet-slapping.
- Review safety equipment design. It may be time for a league-wide 3rd millennium safety equipment update, perhaps particularly including the helmet.

We don't need incontrovertible proof to take a few modest steps like that.
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If you want and the NFL want to follow junk science so be it. It is hard to avoid helmet to helmet.
 
It would be nice just to leave the NFL alone and let the boys be boys, that's the players and the fans. That's not excluding the girl fans because they love this masculine game also.

There is a lot of resentment against the league from the left because of the enormous profits it has made. There is a lot of resentment from the feminists because they cannot insert women players into the league without drastically changing the rules to a point where the game no longer exists as the game of football. (They tried kickers in the college ranks but their leg strength wasn't strong enough).

To sum it up with the knowledge that concussions are part of the game and unavoidable, they will just keep F*cking with the league until it is ruined altogether but the blame still lies with the league's PC front office who wont stand up to the forces who keep assaulting it.
 
Just another note here; It's called the National Football League but the relentless drive to transform the league into an international league is turning many fans off also. This was once called America's game (The Dallas Cowboys were called America's team.) The NFL was about as American as it gets.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Sorry....you're just simply wrong.

By any objective measure Baseball is the greatest team sport in the entire world based on the objective of the game.

In basketball the objective of the game is for one team to advance the ball to the net and put the ball through the net to score two points.

Where as in baseball the objective of the game is to go home...and be safe.

So sorry...basketball doesn't even remotely compare to baseball in greatness.


The great philosopher George Carlin explains why Baseball is great, and in particular, greater than football.

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Real athletes take it to the net, soccer and basketball in that order!
 
"If you want and the NFL want to follow junk science so be it."
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a) I'm a scientist. I retired from a career in the computer chip industry; manufacturing at the start, and development at the end.

b) I'm not an expert on the human brain *.
But to my knowledge it is a consensus, "junk science" or not, that head trauma can cause symptoms.

c) In the NHL, players used to not wear helmets. I think the NFL can update, if they're serious about the welfare of the players.
" It is hard to avoid helmet to helmet. " #111
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d) They're big boys.
I think they can do what they make an effort to do; EVEN at the risk of benefiting themselves and their teammates.

e) The penalty for helmet to helmet / head-ramming can be increased; and players that do so could be further penalized; even ejected from the game, or suspended for multiple games.
Why should the players take it seriously, if the league doesn't?

BUT !!

If you really don't think head trauma is a health risk, why don't you put an ad in Craigslist for a teenager to spend a few weeks whacking your skull with a stout wooden paddle? 8 hours a day should be enough.
If you're right, there shouldn't be any permanent medical consequence; and you'll have the rewarding experience of providing one anecdote to support your position.

* But I can recommend either Brocca's Brain, or my personal favorite, The Dragons of Eden which won a Pulitzer; a marvelous book on the evolution of the brain.
 
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