NFL Players Kneel, Raise Fists During National Anthem in Preseason Games

Lesh said:
You realize of course that the elevated incarceration rate has its roots in aggressive sentencing and policing...right? People of color are pulled over and "policed" at far higher rates than others...and when sentenced receive far harsher sentences.

Oh you don't care?


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If drug laws were enforced equally across all subdivisions of a given jurisdiction the issue would be inescapably clear. That's what white privilege is; the luxury of being able to remain ignorant as to how your society actually functions.
 
Darth Omar said:
So, cousin stays in jail because they’re afraid Trump would trumpet it. Sorry, cuz.

Just how concerned are they about their grievances?
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Whose cousin is in jail?

Kap lost his career. I think he's pretty concerned & sincere about it. I think most are. It's about unequal treatment under the law in the black community that has been a serious issue for decades - not about a "cuz in jail."

Keep trying, though. Trump must be such a hero & so sincere because he offered to meet w/ them.
 
Thing1 said:
Whose cousin is in jail?

Kap lost his career. I think he's pretty concerned & sincere about it. I think most are. It's about unequal treatment under the law in the black community that has been a serious issue for decades - not about a "cuz in jail."

Keep trying, though. Trump must be such a hero & so sincere because he offered to meet w/ them.
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Nice subtle punt lol.

Trump offered to DO something very personal for the kneelers—and was turned down.

Why should he take them seriously?
 
Darth Omar said:
Nice subtle punt lol.

Trump offered to DO something very personal for the kneelers—and was turned down.

Why should he take them seriously?
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No one takes Don seriously on anything. Hell his wife knows he ain't even serious about that "marriage" of theirs, she's a trinket, nothing more.
 
Hello Althea,

Althea said:
OK. You have the country's attention. How about starting a massive 'get out the vote' campaign? The timing is perfect, just as it was when Kap. failed miserably in his ploy. Idiot didn't even vote.

There are ways to exact change, if that's what the players actually want.
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Good idea. I would support that.
 
Fentoine Lum said:
The vote is a ruse, can't fault anyone for recognizing reality. And another reality is that the corporate state police murder unarmed citizens in the streets with impunity.

Used to be "conservatives" would view that as big intrusive govt.
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Ruse? Local elections offer the quickest avenue for change. Note Ferguson election results from Tuesday.
 
Hello Darth,

Darth Omar said:
So, the kneelers turned down an opportunity to meet with the president? Any number of advocacy groups would love that opportunity.

Why should we take them seriously?
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Sounds like something that was made up. I have heard of no offer extended to the protesting players to come to the White House for a meeting with the President, nor was any alleged meeting refused. That would be huge news. Never heard of it.
 
TOP said:
So sit down and talk...have a townhall type meeting.....
Later...I've got fresh corn to fry for lunch...are you a fan?
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Fuck Don, fuck the nfl, fuck the power of the state to murder unarmed citizens in the streets. You don't "talk to" that shit, you act like free people.
 
These so called protests seem to me like a bunch of weak willed liberals much like the Hollywood liberals showing their ass's over some cause. I bet if you polled these over paid fools separately none of them would have the same answer.
 
Legion said:
This is what the SJW NFL thinks their fans want to see - along with men in tight pants on their knees.

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Have another drink.
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You sure do have a strange fixation ... have fun playing with yourself.
 
Grumpy said:
These so called protests seem to me like a bunch of weak willed liberals much like the Hollywood liberals showing their ass's over some cause. I bet if you polled these over paid fools separately none of them would have the same answer.
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I always say, if you don't like it ... do something about it. :cool:
 
Thing1 said:
That wasn't a punt. You just can't address it.
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You keep dodging the point about Trump’s offer.

If the kneelers don’t know someone in prison, surely their fans do. Trump is willing to pardon people.

But no takers. And you even conceded that it was because Trump would take credit for it. You think the poor bugger in prison cares who gets credit for their release?

I think I’m done taking you seriously.
 
Darth Omar said:
You keep dodging the point about Trump’s offer.

If the kneelers don’t know someone in prison, surely their fans do. Trump is willing to pardon people.

But no takers. And you even conceded that it was because Trump would take credit for it. You think the poor bugger in prison cares who gets credit for their release?

I think I’m done taking you seriously.
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I haven't dodged it at all. I explained in detail, several times, why they would not take this offer if they cared about he larger issue of unequal treatment under the law.

Do you skip over those parts, or are you just unable to read certain things? I have done no dodging - you have just ignored what I posted. Probably because you want to maintain "they won't take Trump's offer" as a talking point.
 
Bourbon said:
I always say, if you don't like it ... do something about it. :cool:
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I do. I vote with my wallet they want to protest fine it's their right. And it's my right to take my business elsewhere. To be honest I rarely watch the NFL, it's strictly college ball for me.
 
Thing1 said:
I haven't dodged it at all. I explained in detail, several times, why they would not take this offer if they cared about he larger issue of unequal treatment under the law.

Do you skip over those parts, or are you just unable to read certain things? I have done no dodging - you have just ignored what I posted. Probably because you want to maintain "they won't take Trump's offer" as a talking point.
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It’s not a talking point—it’s a fact.

You even conceded it was because Trump would take the credit. Why is Trump getting credit an issue?
 
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