New Study Demolishes Almost Every Gun Control Myth
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Cold hard facts™ you dipshits. Enough of your lies, enough of your willful misrepresentation of reality. Stop trying to use tragedies to enact your own selfish legislation. It's time you gungrabbers wake the fuck up (or stop willfully trying to eradicate our rights).
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I guess that is where we have been going wrong in the UK. Actually I can see why you would need a gun with someone like 007 living near you.
There is no reason to support the type of anti-gun rhetoric unless you are a tool for the state or a doe-eyed simpleton prole easily swayed by emotional soundbites. Using sandyhook to ban guns is no different than using 9/11 to rescind our privacy rights. Anyone that brings up sandyhook in an effort to eradicate our rights should be ashamed of themselves and is the worst kind of human being.
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Apparently we have been doing it all wrong and should all be going round tooled up with concealed weapons.
cultures are different. the facts are the facts. gun violence does not positively correlate with gun ownership. keep closing your eyes and plugging your fingers in your ears though.
Billy the Great Khan
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What's that? Not a single, solitary effort towards rebuking Grinds TOWER OF FACTS? Not even slightly shocking.
Your criminal class does.
Government's latest crime figures were condemned as "truly terrible" as it emerged that gun crime in England and Wales soared by 35%.
Criminals used handguns in 46% more offences, Home Office statistics revealed.
Firearms were used in 9,974 recorded crimes, up from 7,362.
It was the fourth consecutive year to see a rise and there were more than 2,200 more gun crimes than the previous peak.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-154307/Gun-crime-soars-35.html#ixzz2pWvbYdus
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You are truly an arsehole, that article is over 10 years old!!
Are things better today in the UK, foreigner?
Or is gun crime still increasing despite the bans?
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For every "gun tragedy", there are thousands of "self defense by gun" incidents that never get reported to US by the Leftist controlled mainstream media. They know that they cannot totally control US as long as we keep our guns, no matter what laws are passed.
http://gunssavelives.net/#
I use the term "they" to describe radical Leftists like Georgi Soros, who I believe is sponsoring just about every gun grabbing plot, with his money. In my opinion, Georgi Soros is behind the whole thing by undermining the Bush economy, again using his $20 billion to control the stock market with aftermarket stock manipulations. Opinions are like ass holes, everyone has them and these are mine. "Georgi" is the Russian Commie name for George, so I use it instead of George............
..........."George Soros is financing the fight to give the United Nations control of your guns.
Through his Media Matters organization, Soros is dumping pro-UN gun control propaganda into the mainstream media to coincide with the United Nations Conference on the Arms Trade Treaty being held in New York July 2–27.
In a blog post published on July 3, Timothy Johnson of Media Matters describes the notion that the United Nations would ever try to take away the right of Americans to keep and bear arms “laughable.”
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew...-soros-promotes-un-control-over-gun-ownership
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Well seeing as you like to think you're so smart, why didn't you find this?
http://www.economist.com/node/21559646
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Hey man, I like you but you can be astonishingly dense at times. George Soros is a Hungarian Jew.
So gun control works?
Remind me, foreigner, what happened the last time the British tried to disarm Americans?
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I am surprised that you can even see the keyboard with all that egg on your face!! Remind me, who was it that said patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel?
What egg, foreigner?
I asked if gun crime was still increasing in the UK.
Remind me why you find US politics forums so appealing...
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You asked and the bloody article said no, so what's your effing problem?
Firearms are going out of style
Jul 28th 2012 | From the print edition
STOCKWELL, in south London, is famous for two things: Portuguese restaurants and gun crime. Last year, at the Asian-run Stockwell Food and Wine store, a five-year-old girl, Thusa Kamaleswaran, was shot and paralysed in a botched attack by the Brixton-based GAS gang (which stands for Guns and Shanks, or knives) on the Stockwell-based ABM gang (All ‘Bout Money). The shooters were three young men, who arrived on bicycles and fled the same way, leaving security camera images which shocked the nation.
Mercifully, such tragedies are becoming rarer. The number of firearms offences recorded by police is at its lowest level this millennium. Last year 39 people died from gunshots, down from 96 a decade earlier. This is not just because of better medicine; the number of people entering hospital accident and emergency departments with gunshot wounds has also dropped, from 1,370 in 2003 to 972 last year.
Violence in general is dropping. But the fall in gun crime is especially steep (see chart). The number of offences involving guns dropped by 16% last year, whereas the number of crimes involving knives (which have only been properly recorded since 2010) fell by just 5%. The biggest improvements have been in places where gun crime once seemed uncontrollable. In both Manchester, once nicknamed “Gunchester,” and Nottingham, gun crime has fallen by almost half since 2006.
Organised criminals are less likely to use guns. The number of armed robberies has fallen by around 45% since 2001, and bank robberies and post office hold-ups are now almost unheard of. “Serious armed robbery has become a dinosaur crime”, says Roger Matthews, a criminologist at the University of Kent. Modern armed robbers are amateurs, he says, usually badly equipped and often on drugs.
Guns are in short supply. The National Ballistics Intelligence Service, which tracks guns through bullets and shell casings, reckons that the total number of illegal firearms in the country is no more than 30,000-40,000, and the number in active use is far lower. Data from the Serious Organised Crime Agency suggests that clean guns (which have not been used) are getting more expensive, which probably means they are rarer. Even where guns are available, bullets are scarce, leading criminals to fashion their own from things like blanks and ball bearings.
Firearms circulate quickly, but that increases the risk of being caught. Detectives are given a profile of where a weapon has previously been used, so criminals and gun-running networks can be pinned down. That, combined with mandatory five-year sentences for gun criminals, has convinced many that the credibility won by a firearm is not worth the risk.
Dedicated anti-guns programmes have probably helped. In Manchester, the X-Calibre project helped police identify the most important gang leaders and lock them up. In London, Operation Trident, which deals with gang and gun violence, has improved the way the police combat gun crime. Claudia Webbe, its chairwoman, says coppers have learned that London’s gangs are loose and disorganised. Rather than rushing to arrest gang members, the police get close to the girlfriends, parents and siblings of gunmen and press them for information. The result is higher detection and conviction rates, she says.
Finally, there are more law-abiding people around. Moss Side, once one of Manchester’s most notorious districts for gun crime, has become strikingly more peaceful recently. It also has many more inhabitants, lots of them immigrants. George Kelling, an American criminologist who helped devise the “broken windows” theory, reckons that hollowed-out inner cities are particularly vulnerable to violent criminals, partly because there are few people to push the police to take action. Repopulation has helped cut crime rates in New York, he says. The same may be true of Britain’s mean streets.
Can you suggest how the gun control methods used by government in the UK can be applied in the US, foreigner?