New Pope is pretty cool!

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Annie said:
The pope wasn't changing Church teachings, what he was saying is that the Church shouldn't be excluding anyone from coming to Christ. Here's the interview, not 'headlines':

http://www.americamagazine.org/pope-interview
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got that idea too - this:
blasting the church's obsession with "small-minded rules"
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has got to stop, or the church will be self extinct -how many people who might not be gay at least accept those whom are?

Can't go around dissing an entire class of people, ( nor should one).
The basic tenets stay the same - the difference is in getting rid of the petty non - germane rules blocking the path to salvation
 
Jarod said:
I am sure he is against reproductive choice and anti-gay and sexist, he is simply better on those issues that past Vicars of Christ. Its the first bend we have seen from the Catholic Church on these issues.
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hopefully a new path, I applaude anyone concerned with their spirituality,'the Church is but on way to get there (my opinion), but for the faithful it is the only way
 
I have been fortunate to be exposed to multiple orders (Jesuit, Carmelite, Benedictine, Dominican, others), parishes, traditions (such as Tridentine and Byzantine), and especially individual priests. I had a pastor who was from Germany. His predecessors and successor were ultra liberal, moderate, and ultra conservative. I have had African priests at other parishes.

The Carmelites of Shoreline, WA have an annual novena, where they invite priest from all over (India, Malta, San Diego to mention a few). As a Knight of Columbus I get a large conservative exposure, but as a lifelong SVDP member I have known some more liberal types as well.
 
Threedee said:
I know plenty. Are priests really that different in the Pittsburgh area compared with the Puget Sound area, or do you only associate with your own parish?
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When we lived in Pittsburgh (when I was young, you know, back in the dawn of time) my parents ended up befriending a lot of ex-nuns and ex-priests; my aunt dropped out of the convent at that time as well. Maybe only the conservative ones were left actually in the church?
 
The Bible instructs faithful Christians on how to live. The Pope is still supposed to remind them of this, regardless of what other people are doing. Faithful Christians don't get to abort their babies, cheat on their spouses, etc., and are supposed to be charitable and loving.
 
Threedee said:
I have been fortunate to be exposed to multiple orders (Jesuit, Carmelite, Benedictine, Dominican, others), parishes, traditions (such as Tridentine and Byzantine), and especially individual priests. I had a pastor who was from Germany. His predecessors and successor were ultra liberal, moderate, and ultra conservative. I have had African priests at other parishes.

The Carmelites of Shoreline, WA have an annual novena, where they invite priest from all over (India, Malta, San Diego to mention a few). As a Knight of Columbus I get a large conservative exposure, but as a lifelong SVDP member I have known some more liberal types as well.
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Same here. Honestly I've never heard a Homily that focused on homosexuality or even mentioned it. I've heard pro-life
ones, but never 'exclusively' on abortion, capital punishment and euthanasia were also mentioned. Back when I was in
grammar school there were plenty regarding Civil Rights. I've heard several in the past 15 years come close to advocacy
for women priests.

While the rituals are old, the message isn't quite what many non-Catholics would assume.
 
The last Catholic Mass I attended was a rant about how the sex abuse scandal was used against the church.
 
My rant is how incompetent cetain bishops are that would allow a scandal to occur under their watch. As workplace supervisors and executives, it is their duty to report abuse to the police. Obviously it was used against the Church, but the Church put itself in the position to be targeted in the first place.
 
Threedee said:
My rant is how incompetent cetain bishops are that would allow a scandal to occur under their watch. As workplace supervisors and executives, it is their duty to report abuse to the police. Obviously it was used against the Church, but the Church put itself in the position to be targeted in the first place.
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We may be in agreement so this is an honest question...

Don't you think something like that should be used against any organization that allows it to happen? A school, church or say the boy scouts...
 
Well, the worst part of it is that bishops defended themselves by claiming that they were trying to be forgiving and tolerant toward sinners. At the very least, they needed to see the bigger picture. The silver lining is that in the modern world, parish priests are being forced to be very hard-working administrators. This means that the majority of future appointments to bishop offices will come from this new generation of administrative priests.
 
Threedee said:
Well, the worst part of it is that bishops defended themselves by claiming that they were trying to be forgiving and tolerant toward sinners. At the very least, they needed to see the bigger picture. The silver lining is that in the modern world, parish priests are being forced to be very hard-working administrators. This means that the majority of future appointments to bishop offices will come from this new generation of administrative priests.
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Are they so dumb that they cant figure out that one can be forgiving and tolerant while still alerting the authorities about a crime against children?

Pope John Paul, forgave the man who shot him, but the guy still went to jail.
 
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